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Science/Environment Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Part 4 - The nips are gettin' bigger.
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Looks like we picked a dodgy vaccine. Report from a financial site
FDA could reject AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine on efficacy and manufacturing shortfalls: analyst
It was bad enough when a study released last week concluded that AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine was largely ineffective against the aggressive B.1.351 variant that recently emerged in South Africa. Now, analysts are wondering whether inconsistent manufacturing of the vaccine for the clinical trials may have muddied the results—concerns that could give the FDA pause when considering the vaccine for emergency use.
That was the conclusion of a note SVB Leerink analysts sent to clients Wednesday, in which they laid out both the bear and bull cases for FDA authorization of AstraZeneca’s COVID vaccine. The bottom line? The bear case is worrisome, they said.
www.fiercepharma.com
FDA could reject AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine on efficacy and manufacturing shortfalls: analyst
It was bad enough when a study released last week concluded that AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine was largely ineffective against the aggressive B.1.351 variant that recently emerged in South Africa. Now, analysts are wondering whether inconsistent manufacturing of the vaccine for the clinical trials may have muddied the results—concerns that could give the FDA pause when considering the vaccine for emergency use.
That was the conclusion of a note SVB Leerink analysts sent to clients Wednesday, in which they laid out both the bear and bull cases for FDA authorization of AstraZeneca’s COVID vaccine. The bottom line? The bear case is worrisome, they said.
FDA could reject AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine on efficacy and manufacturing shortfalls: analyst
It's not just the worrisome data showing AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine was largely ineffective against the aggressive South African variant that worries some analysts. Inconsistent manufacturing could complicate the company's bid to win over the FDA for a U.S. launch.
Dogs_R_Us
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Thousands of predicted COVID-19 deaths never eventuated - was it poor modelling or our response?
Australia's policymakers were in March bracing for up to 150,000 deaths - by late May Australia had just 103 deaths.
Neil Ferguson
“Up to 150,000 Australians could die from the coronavirus under a worst case scenario, the Morrison government says, as it considers advice on restricting visits to pubs, cinemas and aged care homes.”
Thousands of predicted COVID-19 deaths never eventuated - was it poor modelling or our response?
Australia's policymakers were in March bracing for up to 150,000 deaths - by late May Australia had just 103 deaths.www.smh.com.au
Worst case scenario. Not the most likely scenario.
Dogs_R_Us
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I didn't say it was
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Did the modelling predict that there would be 150,000 deaths in Australia with or without lockdowns? Kinda dumb to suggest tHe mOdelLeRs R wRoNG based on a prediction that was largely founded on society continuing as normal when we can all surely agree that life since March 2020 has most definitely not been normal.
Which particular model was he referring to?
His own I assume
So are you saying that the Federal government is using only one particular model’s “worst case with no intervention” prediction to guide decision making?
He didn’t have one model. From what I can see, his team (one of many teams) used many different models and types of models.
Happy to be proven wrong, but I can’t see one specific “Neil Ferguson model”.
I'm not going to pretend i'm an expert on this. I'm only going by what i've read he has said, and he started this pandemic with a reputation as one of the worlds best. I can't remember specifically, but I seem to recall his numbers were the basis for most governments justifying lockdowns at the start? The likely scenario is that his were just the numbers trotted out by the media for maximum 'effect' I guess. They looked scary.
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Otherwise known as the “USA management model”
IIRC Neil Ferguson is an utterly useless arse clown with a sh*t track record and he got sacked.
Meanwhile the Germans are proving to be smart
Scepticism over Oxford vaccine threatens Europe's immunisation push
Politicians in Germany are stepping out in support of the AstraZeneca vaccine as public scepticism around the University of Oxford-developed product threatens to hamper Europe’s Covid-19 immunisation programme.
The vaccine, subject of an acrimonious tug-of-war between its British-Swedish manufacturer and the European commission last month, is being described by German media as a “shelf warmer” as only about 17% of doses delivered to the country have been administered so far.
www.theguardian.com
Scepticism over Oxford vaccine threatens Europe's immunisation push
Politicians in Germany are stepping out in support of the AstraZeneca vaccine as public scepticism around the University of Oxford-developed product threatens to hamper Europe’s Covid-19 immunisation programme.
The vaccine, subject of an acrimonious tug-of-war between its British-Swedish manufacturer and the European commission last month, is being described by German media as a “shelf warmer” as only about 17% of doses delivered to the country have been administered so far.
Scepticism over Oxford vaccine threatens Europe's immunisation push
German politicians voice support for jab after only 17% of doses delivered to country are administered so far
www.theguardian.com
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That’s a fairly large brief on its own.
The other thing Ferguson said is that models are not reality, and it is usually years after the fact before you can judge if they were accurate.
The various modelling teams have to estimate and fudge and mess around with numbers that may or may not be good quality, to make a best guess as to what happens under different scenarios.
In the UK they dithered and wasted billions on things like track and trace from massive government services companies that were 1/50th as effective as local health authorities. They didn't put in any quarantine measures for international arrivals from what I recall. They sent elderly patients back to homes without any testing, cutting a swathe through that part of the population.
Johnson didn't even get the response right for a worst case scenario and it's 100k+ dead - even before you factor in the under-counting in the first wave due to inadequate testing systems (again, money given to massive government services companies).
And yet it's "Neil Ferguson's model" that gets the blame. It's incredible.
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I see folks are still debating Covid 19 with tabloids & conspiracy sites.
I figure they'll never learn.
I figure they'll never learn.
I miss the daily graphs when covid was first around
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This is starting to get more traction:
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The lower socio economic classes aren't paying the bill.
The savings are the result government injections into household income and lower spending.
