Covid-19 Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Part 5 - Get vaccinated.

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https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infec...d-19-vaccination-case-surveillance-051121.pdf

In the peak fortnight of the outbreak to date (25 August to 7 September), the COVID-19 case rate among 2-dose vaccinated people was 49.5 per 100,000 while in unvaccinated people it was 561 per 100,000, a more than 10-fold difference. The rates of COVID-19 ICU admissions or deaths peaked in the fortnight 8 September to 21 September at 0.9 per 100,000 in 2-dose vaccinated people compared to 15.6 per 100,000 in unvaccinated people, a greater than 16-fold difference.
 
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The good news is that most kids catch up pretty quickly after a setback.

The bad news is that if it's anything like the UK, they will blow hundreds of millions on private tutoring contractors to help kids through.

But it's the US. Likely they will do nothing and blame poor people.
 

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The good news is that most kids catch up pretty quickly after a setback.

The bad news is that if it's anything like the UK, they will blow hundreds of millions on private tutoring contractors to help kids through.

But it's the US. Likely they will do nothing and blame poor people.
Schools need to go back at the scheduled date is my take away, nothing yet suggests any state is thinking otherwise, lets hope that remains the case.
 

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The good news is that most kids catch up pretty quickly after a setback.

The bad news is that if it's anything like the UK, they will blow hundreds of millions on private tutoring contractors to help kids through.

But it's the US. Likely they will do nothing and blame poor people.
Yep, those with the right supports in place should be OK, but as has been shown consistently, cheering for lockdowns was pretty much cheering for poor people being further disadvantaged, from a wholistic health perspective.
 

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Yep, those with the right supports in place should be OK, but as has been shown consistently, cheering for lockdowns was pretty much cheering for poor people being further disadvantaged, from a wholistic health perspective.
Doubt it…and with over 6000 heath staff off work.


 
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Doubt it…and with over 6000 heath staff off work.


From your article - “During the first phase of this pandemic, (when we had regular lockdowns) we now know people on low incomes were dying at four times the rate of the rest of the community.”

The rest is just calling for better access to testing, financial support and panicked idiots not to call up health services unnecessarily.
 

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this is all such fear mongering.

Why are we even counting daily cases anymore? What is there to be gained from it?

We should only be reporting Hospitalization & ICU Numbers AND providing breakdowns of Vaxxed/Unvaxxed and existing underlying health conditions etc. This is the only stat that matters.
 

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From your article - “During the first phase of this pandemic, (when we had regular lockdowns) we now know people on low incomes were dying at four times the rate of the rest of the community.”

The rest is just calling for better access to testing, financial support and panicked idiots not to call up health services unnecessarily.
Those figures were deaths from the pandemic. So imagine how bad they would’ve been if we let rip whilst unvaccinated. Not sure how you think poor are better off now with reduced access to health care as the health system is under more pressure than ever before?
 

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Those figures were deaths from the pandemic. So imagine how bad they would’ve been if we let rip whilst unvaccinated. Not sure how you think poor are better off now with reduced access to health care as the health system is under more pressure than ever before?

People that use anti-lockdown talking points whilst mentioning poor people, rarely seem to be interested in anything that might actually help poor people.
 

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You do realise that there are ongoing trials by reputable groups for it's use against covid. It's clearly not the wonder drug for covid that anti-vaxxers have tried to sell it as, but it could potentially end up recommended at particular stages of the disease.

We were hearing the same.about HCQ a year ago.

Research is good, but people need to shelve the idea there is a silver bullet patent free solution out there that big pharma is hiding from us
 

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We were hearing the same.about HCQ a year ago.

Research is good, but people need to shelve the idea there is a silver bullet patent free solution out there that big pharma is hiding from us
I certainly don't disagree with that. And I'm certainly not advocating ivermectin as anything other than a fantastic treatment for certain parasites. But anti-vaxxers, who are desperate for a miracle cure to help argue against vaccines are choosing drugs to promote that may have some potential as treatments at particular stages of the disease. So you can't rule these drugs out as part of future treatment just because the anti-vaxxers are ridiculous.
 

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I certainly don't disagree with that. And I'm certainly not advocating ivermectin as anything other than a fantastic treatment for certain parasites. But anti-vaxxers, who are desperate for a miracle cure to help argue against vaccines are choosing drugs to promote that may have some potential as treatments at particular stages of the disease. So you can't rule these drugs out as part of future treatment just because the anti-vaxxers are ridiculous.



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I certainly don't disagree with that. And I'm certainly not advocating ivermectin as anything other than a fantastic treatment for certain parasites. But anti-vaxxers, who are desperate for a miracle cure to help argue against vaccines are choosing drugs to promote that may have some potential as treatments at particular stages of the disease. So you can't rule these drugs out as part of future treatment just because the anti-vaxxers are ridiculous.
They ignore balanced discourse in this thread.
 
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Anti-vaxxers grab hold of genuine theories at the early stage of testing. It adds to the credibility, as it's being trialled.

They're probably munching on their missus/mums/sisters birth control pills as a cheap alternative.
 

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