Politics Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19): The politics thread

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LOL, the insanity never stops, funniest thing i have read all day.
You never tried science have you Lesley?



A study published in the American Thoracic Society’s American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine last week presented data from 16 patients who had tested negative according to two PCR tests. It found that at least half the patients could be shedding the virus even after testing negative - throat swabs on alternate days showed remnants of the virus in the body.

The patients remained contagious between one to eight days after testing negative. The median age of patients was 35.5 years, and the average duration of symptoms was 8 days.


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You never tried science have you Lesley?



A study published in the American Thoracic Society’s American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine last week presented data from 16 patients who had tested negative according to two PCR tests. It found that at least half the patients could be shedding the virus even after testing negative - throat swabs on alternate days showed remnants of the virus in the body.

The patients remained contagious between one to eight days after testing negative. The median age of patients was 35.5 years, and the average duration of symptoms was 8 days.


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see if you can follow this, why would someone volunteer for a test when even if they are found negative they are asked to self isolate for 14 days, and follow this bit if you can, if the test is so unreliable and gives so many false negatives and positives why are we even using it, when its maker suggested it should never be used for such things.

just go back to lying about mass graves in Brazil and NY and the rest of your fear porn
 

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see if you can follow this, why would someone volunteer for a test when even if they are found negative they are asked to self isolate for 14 days, and follow this bit if you can, if the test is so unreliable and gives so many false negatives and positives why are we even using it, when its maker suggested it should never be used for such things.

just go back to lying about mass graves in Brazil and NY and the rest of your fear porn
My god i thought you were a moron, now i think you are braindead. Do you even know what asymptomatic means like Seeds asked? i don't think you do.

Some volunteered for a test cause they think they have symptoms and some people have a longer shedding time, here, read moron.



For individuals, however, the FDA cautions that negative results do not rule out infection. It asks that asymptomatic tests include this statement: “Negative results must be considered in the context of an individual’s recent exposures, history, presence of clinical signs and symptoms consistent with COVID-19.” And this, in the face of imperfect COVID-19 tests, is key to interpreting a negative result. It depends on your probability of having COVID-19 in the first place.


Consider again the decision to visit elderly relatives after a negative test. “If you have symptoms or you work in a place where you’re at high risk for exposure, then even with a negative test, you might want to think really hard about it,Steven Woloshin, a co-director of the Center for Medicine and Media at the Dartmouth Institute, explained to me. “If you’re at low risk because you live in some remote area, you’re practicing social distancing, you always wear a mask, and you feel fine,” a negative test is probably a true negative. So even with widespread testing, social distancing and masks will continue to be important for controlling the spread of COVID-19.


And there's been mass graves in NY and Brazii, your argument was it happened last year too. Where does all the excess bodies go to? Brazil is having a 100% excess death rate, Mexico city has 12,000 excess deaths, what's killing them?

Here is just Rio.




What's killing these people in Rio and where are the bodies going?

what's killing 200 people a day in Florida? it's flu season there right?

go back to your Russian overlords and get some new material. Back to block you go!!!
 
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You never tried science have you Lesley?

A study published in the American Thoracic Society’s American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine last week presented data from 16 patients who had tested negative according to two PCR tests. It found that at least half the patients could be shedding the virus even after testing negative - throat swabs on alternate days showed remnants of the virus in the body.

The patients remained contagious between one to eight days after testing negative. The median age of patients was 35.5 years, and the average duration of symptoms was 8 days.

Sample size of 16 is very small. 'Remnants of the virus' does not indicate an active infection. You can pick up bits of virus RNA on bodies dug up from thousands of years ago.

There needs to be better evidence than this that people are contagious after testing negative.
 

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Sample size of 16 is very small. 'Remnants of the virus' does not indicate an active infection. You can pick up bits of virus RNA on bodies dug up from thousands of years ago.

There needs to be better evidence than this that people are contagious after testing negative.
True but in India 15% of symptomatic individuals who tested positive later on, tested negative in the first antigen tests

 

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well, well, this is not political at all ......Trump admin stops funds to WHO


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This is quite interesting: Belarus President said that IMF is offering huge monetary assistance to Belarus if they would introduce quarantines, isolation & curfew to fight COVID19 (https://eng.belta.by/president/view/belarus-president-unwilling-to-accept-additional-terms-to-get-foreign-loans-131164-2020/…), when the country only has 51 COVID deaths per 1 M without such measures!



 

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Celebrated Canadian Constitutional lawyer Rocco Galati characterizes the COVID Operation as “the biggest example of misinformation and lies on a global scale that we’ve seen.”



Specifically, he is seeking “declatory and injunctive” relief against COVID measures. The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) is also named as a defendant since it is publicly funded with a public mandate under the Broadcast Act and has a “duty of care.”

Both Prime Minister Trudeau and Premier Ford refuse to divulge the substance and source of their “medical advice”, and the media, including the CBC, are guilty of extraordinary censorship.


Galati explains how all of the COVID statistics have been manipulated, saying, for example, that if the primary cause of death is cancer, but COVID is evident or presumed, then the Cause of Death is listed (falsely) as COVID.

Ontario’s world-renowned Sick Kid’s Hospital, on the other hand, is well qualified to weigh in on these matters. In a recent peer-reviewed study conducted by two expert virologists, aided by twenty experts, the hospital has advised against social distancing and masking, (1) saying that social distancing and masking import drastic psychological harm on children.
 

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Scam ....

 

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Forget the Science and Health versions. This really should be the only thread about coronavirus. It's been a political circus from the start, run by the Schreibtischtaeter.
 

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Whilst useful idiots are wanking on about cOvId hoAX - looking at you in particular Les Malone

The super wealthy who wanted us all back at work have a completely different idea of how it will work for them....




As the coronavirus pandemic sweeps the globe, some wealthy people have been able to buy some relative peace of mind with access to private air travel, secluded superyachts, and underground bunkers.
Business Insider spoke to seven experts across private aviation, yachting, and luxury bunker construction firms to get an inside look at how the wealthy are bracing for the next global crisis - even as we still find ourselves in the midst of the current one.

 The commercial airline industry is struggling, but private jet providers are reporting record-breaking upticks in new customers

As commercial airlines decrease routes and the uncertainty of COVID-19 lingers, a set of wealthy clientele is abandoning commercial travel in favour of flying private. Experts say private jet travel has shifted from a luxury option to a necessity.
"If you are somebody who has underlying health concerns and can't risk a commercial terminal or flight, it isn't a luxury," Patrick Gallagher, President of NetJets, the largest private jet operator in the world, told Business Insider. "It's something you have to do if you want to see your grandkids or want to move between your primary residence and vacation homes."


While private jet travel hit record lows in March and April, some companies saw a significant increase in flights in May and June, many of which came from new entrants.
Andrew Collins, President and CEO of Sentient Jet, told Business Insider that the company saw a spike in new customers in April.
"In a given month pre-COVID-19, about a third of our business would come from new clients," Collins said. "More than 50% of incoming business since early April is from new clients." Collins also predicted this will hold true for the foreseeable future.
Anthony Tivnan, CEO of Magellan Jets, described a similar pattern. Per Tivan, Magellan Jets saw a 117% increase in new customers between March and early June compared to the same period in 2019. The majority of these customers were high-risk passengers or families fearful of crowded airports.
VistaJet, a global aviation company that operates in more than 187 countries, also reports existing clients are turning to private travel more. "Our current customers, who used us only for a percentage of their flying in combination with commercial flights, are moving to 100% of their flying being private," said Ian Moore, Chief Commercial Officer of VistaJet.


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As the world gets worse, could the hoi polloi trick the Uber rich that they need to take Elon Musks one way trip to mars?

 

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True but in India 15% of symptomatic individuals who tested positive later on, tested negative in the first antigen tests

Speaking of India things are looking very dire there indeed.

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314,000 new cases today alone, and as anyone who knows India will tell you, that's certainly barely even touching the real figures:

India reports global record of 314,000 new coronavirus cases, the world's biggest single-day rise - ABC News

Hospitals across northern and western India including the capital, New Delhi, have issued notices to say they have only a few hours of medical oxygen required to keep COVID-19 patients alive.

More than two-thirds of hospitals had no vacant beds, according to the Delhi government's online database and doctors advised patients to stay at home.

"COVID-19 has become a public health crisis in India leading to a collapse of the healthcare system," assistant professor at the Division of Infectious Diseases, Medical University of South Carolina in the United States, Krutika Kuppalli, said on Twitter.
Things are critical, and about to get much much worse. Hospitals are already overwhelmed, and they're getting over 300,000 new reported cases per day and rapidly rising.
 

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What ever happened to Les, he just.... vanished in October last year. Wonder how he is, what he's doing.
 

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How on earth did australia jumped ahead of usa to attract the main ire of china is beyond me, you got to be brilliantly stupid to achieve this but with the 'aussie aussie' dominated government, it's not hard to do. New Zealand on the other hand has a far more diverse cabinet with far more 'other types' in australian vernacular, they made far more prudent decision.
 

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How on earth did australia jumped ahead of usa to attract the main ire of china is beyond me, you got to be brilliantly stupid to achieve this but with the 'aussie aussie' dominated government, it's not hard to do. New Zealand on the other hand has a far more diverse cabinet with far more 'other types' in australian vernacular, they made far more prudent decision.
Let the big dogs fight in the big ring.....
 

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How on earth did australia jumped ahead of usa to attract the main ire of china is beyond me, you got to be brilliantly stupid to achieve this but with the 'aussie aussie' dominated government, it's not hard to do. New Zealand on the other hand has a far more diverse cabinet with far more 'other types' in australian vernacular, they made far more prudent decision.
Unlike the US, we need China far more than they need us. We’re an easy target.
 

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