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Superkick - officially a finisher again

Not a bad little match , where does it leave Bray though ?

edit - ok , rematch next week ( week after most likely , Dolph vs Eric the red next week )
 

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Why Bray not received a singles push is beyond me..

Moves great for his size.
Great move set, especially his finisher.
Awesome on the mic.
If you're not in the chosen handful they won't let you get properly over.

I think Phil Brooks described it as they don't want anyone to get bigger than WWE itself.
 

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worked so well for Cesaro and Axel.
Putting Heyman with Cesaro was a bad decision in that it kept him heel when the crowd wanted a face turn, it still might've worked but they booked him terribly.

Axel could've worked very well - he's competent on the mic but not super - so Heyman could've been a big boost if they'd given him a serious push. Instead Vince gave him the same push he gave numerous other young guys in that era, where he gave them either a title or name opponents which in his mind was the push...but he booked them like absolute shit.

Axel got Heyman and the Intercontinental Title, OK, but on the negative side he entered into a feud with Trips where he got his arse repeatedly kicked, barely got in any offence, won a match or 2 cheaply by CO/DQ, then there was the bit where Axel wanted to continue the feud but Vince convinced Trips that Axel was irrelevant and wasn't worth wrestling as he was "beneath him". He barely defended the Intercontinental Title during his reign, I think his only feud over it was with Kofi which resulted in a PPV match (which itself was an afterthought push given the Ryback/Axel vs. Punk blow-off was on the same card). Ryback was shoved into Heyman's lap post-SummerSlam which instantly made Axel #2 for Heyman, and also meant Axel now got his arse regularly kicked by Punk (though admittedly Punk gave him much more offence than Trips).

He's a technically sound wrestler that is missing the charisma and it factor that made his father great - not saying a decent push would've definitely gotten him over, but like a large amount of their roster they had the opportunity to see whether there was money to be made with him and squandered it by undercutting the guy through horrid booking.


I doubt they'll bother putting Heyman with anybody else going forward as these days he's too busy - speaking tour, upcoming reality show, various other ventures.
 

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David otunga sucks they need to get rid of him
He's not great, but he's been tossed into the deep end. Maybe he's done some practice commentary stuff in a studio, maybe he's just been tossed out cold, but it isn't like he's had the NXT training ground for the best part of 2 years like Graves has to prepare him. On top of the lack of training he's then got JBL who likes hearing himself talk and talking over the top of his fellow commentators.

I'm willing to give him a few months to get adjusted to things and then judge him.
 

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They need another Paul Hayman guy, such a waste using him for brock every few months. Should be on mic every week, there are plenty of guys who could use his skills.

The two that come to mind on Raw would be Roman if they ever want him heel. The other would be Braun Strowman I think he needs a mouthpiece, they seem hesitant in giving him the mic, Hayman could really get him over. He has the size just needs that push and Paul E can do that.
Heyman be great for Reigns
 

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Heel tag teams cheat all the time and the ref does Jacques Merde.

This is one of those things I have to ignore, lest I actually go insane.
I can let things go, but not when he states directly at it. I mean come on have him somehow distracted.
 
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