WWE WrestleMania 41 - Sunday 20th April & Monday 21st April 2025, 9am AEST (Countdown show 6am)

[RossFC]

Every decision maker at WWE should be tied to a chair & forced to listen to Travis Scott's "music" for eternity

This stupid song won't go away, I even heard it during the Brisbane/Collingwood game this weekend ffs.

 

[Cleavy]

Are we taking bets on which carny mud show is going to offer Flair a "world title" match?

The NWA are absolutely going to do this, aren't they?

Charlotte is going to break the record, it's just a matter of when.

 

[RossFC]

Are we taking bets on which carny mud show is going to offer Flair a "world title" match?

The NWA are absolutely going to do this, aren't they?

They don't need to. Ric Flair has 21 world titles.

9 NWA, 10 WCW, 2 WWE.

 

[Ry009]

He's ragging on the internet on the same night that Cena debuted the black tshirt

Unless I'm misunderstanding, he's had quite a few black t-shirts?

 

[RossFC]

Unless I'm misunderstanding, he's had quite a few black t-shirts?

 

[Ry009]

And






This one was even featured in the pre match promo IIRC.

 

[Cleavy]

Unless I'm misunderstanding, he's had quite a few black t-shirts?

he had that awesome Tyson Punch-out/NES style one. that was a great design

 

[Cleavy]

They don't need to. Ric Flair has 21 world titles.

9 NWA, 10 WCW, 2 WWE.

not in WWE canon he doesn't

 

[Ry009]

Meltzer should take a massive victory lap. doesn't mean his (numerous) other mistakes are null and voided, but he was on the money here.

I don't hate him like most of the net does, but most of his 'news' sounds like they're just stabs in the dark. Not genuine inside info. Sounds like more of a broken clock is right twice a day situation. Did he actually say he had legit inside info?

 

[Cleavy]

I don't hate him like most of the net does, but most of his 'news' sounds like they're just stabs in the dark. Not genuine inside info. Sounds like more of a broken clock is right twice a day situation. Did he actually say he had legit inside info?

reported it many months ago and Rock publicly denied it, although he did acknowledge that if Rock's availability changed the company would be all in.

 

[Nicho50]

How would you all feel if The Rock turns up tomorrow ?

I’m with nobbyiscool regarding his comment about it looks like the angle they are running with him will be anti wrestling / IWC style where Cena specifically stated “ you will get nothing” No entrance no new theme song and that he is going to ruin wrestling.

Does the finish fit in with that ? Everyone wanted or expected a big angle with the Rock and never got it.

 

[Wickzki]

Every decision maker at WWE should be tied to a chair & forced to listen to Travis Scott's "music" for eternity

They may be FEIN with that.

 

[Wickzki]

A missed opportunity at the press conference

That's a clickbait statement.

 

[Trojan90]

I was just watching Triple H in the post show trying to defend/clarify his comments on the internet fans. I wonder if I didn't give him enough credit (or maybe now I'm giving him too much).

He's ragging on the internet on the same night that Cena debuted the black tshirt - the venerated symbol of smarky internet fans - and made good on his promise to kill wrestling.

This is the storyline. And that crowd today is exactly what they wanted. The smarky crowd that cheered Cena, the crowd that, in Triple H's mind, bitch and moan because wrestling will never be as good as it was when they were a kid.

They're going to lean into these smarky Cena-loving elements of the audience, he's going to slowly change things that lean into that crowd, while maintaining his promise to the kill wrestling for the broader, casual "mark" element. He becomes the symbol of those fans who never believe that wrestling will ever be as good again with the "last real champion" schtick... which is some inception level irony when you consider how those exact fans treated him forever.

It could be really intriguing if they can figure out all the threads.

You’re on the money with this. Don’t know how it plays out but if they can figure it out it could be fun.

Isn’t Travis Scott the ultimate heel move? We all wanted Rock, Rollins, or whoever and we get this.

 

[Ry009]

reported it many months ago and Rock publicly denied it, although he did acknowledge that if Rock's availability changed the company would be all in.

Fair enough Natural assumption after EC and last year would have been the Rock showing up. So its a brave call.

 

[nobbyiscool]

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This one was even featured in the pre match promo IIRC.

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I'd blocked the era out

 

[Wickzki]

This is the storyline. And that crowd today is exactly what they wanted. The smarky crowd that cheered Cena, the crowd that, in Triple H's mind, bitch and moan because wrestling will never be as good as it was when they were a kid.

Storyline is never a good excuse for terrible television.

My partner and support worker aren’t Internet wrestling fans. They see it very differently from me — they just watch it as a regular TV show, exactly the kind of audience Triple H seems to be chasing these days.

And both of them thought tonight was garbage. They even pointed out how much more interesting Night One was. For context: my support worker is pretty "meh" on Rollins, loves Roman, and knows I’ve been a Punk fan since way before his first WWE run even though she couldn't really care either way (she doesn't understand the power of him coming back means). They’re actually invested in that story. And neither of them care about seeing Cena going forward.

If WWE is fine catering only to casual fans who show up for the big events at the expense of their weekly audience, then sure — tonight was a perfect ad for that.

But it’s not something Netflix or any of their TV partners should feel good about

It also goes against the basic tenets of good events - send the crowd home with something interesting if you can't send them home happy. It's a key part of what helped make night one's main event so good.

Thinking its part of the story is big time copium.

 

[nobbyiscool]

Storyline is never a good excuse for terrible television.

My partner and support worker aren’t Internet wrestling fans. They see it very differently from me — they just watch it as a regular TV show, exactly the kind of audience Triple H seems to be chasing these days.

And both of them thought tonight was garbage. They even pointed out how much more interesting Night One was. For context: my support worker is pretty "meh" on Rollins, loves Roman, and knows I’ve been a Punk fan since way before his first WWE run even though she couldn't really care either way (she doesn't understand the power of him coming back means). They’re actually invested in that story. And neither of them care about seeing Cena going forward.

If WWE is fine catering only to casual fans who show up for the big events at the expense of their weekly audience, then sure — tonight was a perfect ad for that.

But it’s not something Netflix or any of their TV partners should feel good about

It also goes against the basic tenets of good events - send the home with something interesting if you can't send them home happy. It's a key part of what helped make night one's main event so good.

Thinking its part of the story is big time copium.

I don't know why you think a Triple H interview on a post show, or a Cena heel character that leans into internet smarks is giving "a good excuse for terrible television."

In actuality it does the exact opposite, it's a kind of heel turn with a level of inception that we've never seen before.

You need to be able to distinguish 1 match from the storyline that it's about to feed into. I reject your premise that anyone is giving an excuse for bad television, and I reject your premise that this is bad television and will continue to be.

 

[Wickzki]

You need to be able to distinguish 1 match from the storyline that it's about to feed into. I reject your premise that anyone is giving an excuse for bad television, and I reject your premise that this is bad television and will continue to be.

If you disagree that my premise is that the main event was bad television are you saying that it was good?

 

[Southerntakeover]

How would you all feel if The Rock turns up tomorrow ?

I’m with nobbyiscool regarding his comment about it looks like the angle they are running with him will be anti wrestling / IWC style where Cena specifically stated “ you will get nothing” No entrance no new theme song and that he is going to ruin wrestling.

Does the finish fit in with that ? Everyone wanted or expected a big angle with the Rock and never got it.

Strong 'bargaining stage of grief' vibe

 

[Southerntakeover]

I don't know why you think a Triple H interview on a post show, or a Cena heel character that leans into internet smarks is giving "a good excuse for terrible television."

In actuality it does the exact opposite, it's a kind of heel turn with a level of inception that we've never seen before.

You need to be able to distinguish 1 match from the storyline that it's about to feed into. I reject your premise that anyone is giving an excuse for bad television, and I reject your premise that this is bad television and will continue to be.

The products been bad for months now. It's not because its secretly good in ways that none of us can understand.

 

[nobbyiscool]

If you disagree that my premise is that the main event was bad television are you saying that it was good?

I expect this story to still be ongoing when they're here in October - it's how they're trying to tell their main event stories now.

I'm saying you'd have to be pretty simple to decide that the next 6 months+ of story that we haven't seen yet is bad television because of one shitty match today.

 

[nobbyiscool]

The products been bad for months now. It's not because its secretly good in ways that none of us can understand.

Nor am I saying that the story has been good - I'm saying that we've only seen the first act, we don't know if it's bad yet.

 

[MadMundy]

Check out this promo if you haven't. I genuinely don't understand why they refuse to let Kross talk like THIS on RAW.

What, are they scared he might actually get over if they let him cut these sorts of promos?

 

[mumblingpie]

Guess most have seen the footage of Austin completely missing the on ramp at WM? His either terrible on the quad or he actually was drunk