WWE WrestleMania 41 - Sunday 20th April & Monday 21st April 2025, 9am AEST (Countdown show 6am)

[Grockadoc]

Based on what happened in the Cena match, would anyone have preferred a Cena heel turn at Mania instead of Chamber?

 

[Cleavy]

Based on what happened in the Cena match, would anyone have preferred a Cena heel turn at Mania instead of Chamber?

depends how it was done. the turn at EC was really good.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

depends how it was done. the turn at EC was really good.

A A grade moment wasted on a B grade event is the issue.

At Wrestlemania id have simply done it by hitting Cody with the title after a low blow. Have him cheat to win. Rather then being the bitch to someone who isnt even there

 

[Cleavy]

Meltzer & Alvarez ratings both in attendance just because:

Night 1

• Gunther vs. Jey Uso: 3.75 (BA 3.5)
• Erik & Ivar vs. Kofi Kingston & Xavier Woods: 2.75 (BA same)
• Jade Cargill vs. Naomi: 2 (BA 2.75)
• Jacob Fatu vs. LA Knight: 3.75 (BA same)
• El Grande Americano vs. Rey Fenix: 2.75 (BA 3.5)
• Charlotte Flair vs. Tiffany Stratton: 1.75 (BA 3.75)
• CM Punk vs. Seth Rollins vs. Roman Reigns: 4.75 (BA 5 Stars)

Night 2

• Bianca Belair vs. Iyo Sky vs. Rhea Ripley: 5 STARS (BA 4.5)
• Damian Priest vs. Drew McIntyre: 4.25 (BA 3.75)
• Bron Breakker vs. Dominik Mysterio vs. Finn Balor vs. Penta: 4.25 (BA 4.5)
• AJ Styles vs. Logan Paul: 3.5 (BA 3.25)
• Becky Lynch and Lyra Valkyria vs. Liv Morgan and Raquel Rodriguez: 2 (BA same)
• Cody Rhodes vs. John Cena: 1.75 (BA 1.5)

 

[Nicho50]

Meltzer & Alvarez ratings both in attendance just because:

Night 1

• Gunther vs. Jey Uso: 3.75 (BA 3.5)
• Erik & Ivar vs. Kofi Kingston & Xavier Woods: 2.75 (BA same)
• Jade Cargill vs. Naomi: 2 (BA 2.75)
• Jacob Fatu vs. LA Knight: 3.75 (BA same)
• El Grande Americano vs. Rey Fenix: 2.75 (BA 3.5)
• Charlotte Flair vs. Tiffany Stratton: 1.75 (BA 3.75)
• CM Punk vs. Seth Rollins vs. Roman Reigns: 4.75 (BA 5 Stars)

Night 2

• Bianca Belair vs. Iyo Sky vs. Rhea Ripley: 5 STARS (BA 4.5)
• Damian Priest vs. Drew McIntyre: 4.25 (BA 3.75)
• Bron Breakker vs. Dominik Mysterio vs. Finn Balor vs. Penta: 4.25 (BA 4.5)
• AJ Styles vs. Logan Paul: 3.5 (BA 3.25)
• Becky Lynch and Lyra Valkyria vs. Liv Morgan and Raquel Rodriguez: 2 (BA same)
• Cody Rhodes vs. John Cena: 1.75 (BA 1.5)

Flogs of the highest order.

If it come from reputable people within the industry who have experience in the ring or producing the product like a Bryan Danielson as an example you could take seriously not those clowns.

 

[Nugett]

Are you talking about being able to do more flip floppy moves or fake submissions?

Because this comment is extremely laughable to me.

Very rarely is anyone remembering the spectacular action.

Savage vs Steamboat at wrestlemania 3 is known for its storytelling throughout the match. At the same event in Hogan vs Andre all what is remembered is a hip toss being passed off as a body slam.

Wrestlemania 13 Stone Cold vs Bret Hart, is well known for its storytelling throughout the match.

The pair of Shawn Micheals vs Undertaker Wrestlemania matches is also known for its intricate details in the pair of matches.

Even your namesake vs Hogan at wrestlemania 6 also has storytelling elements and moves in its match.

Take Roman Reigns vs Undertaker in their Wrestlemania match. where it was built up. Beforehand but the match itself was horrendous, as it was move after move that didn’t contribute to the storytelling. Thankfully that wasn’t Undertaker’s last match and he was able to redeem himself later on.

So to say that people are not remembering the spectacular action is not true, as they are ranked extremely high and are looked upon favourably.

 

[Cleavy]

Flogs of the highest order.

If it come from reputable people within the industry who have experience in the ring or producing the product like a Bryan Danielson as an example you could take seriously not those clowns.

You realise that Alvarez used to wrestle and was trained by Buddy Wayne (AEW’s Nick Wayne’s dad)?