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Has the product ever been any worse? This draft thing is a bigger disaster than their last one. It's so transparent, they're so desperate.


And the Vince death angle is good for one thing only - getting him off the shows...only now they just talk about him all the time...you cannot win with Vinnie Mac.
 
hobart cat said:
Has the product ever been any worse? This draft thing is a bigger disaster than their last one. It's so transparent, they're so desperate.


And the Vince death angle is good for one thing only - getting him off the shows...only now they just talk about him all the time...you cannot win with Vinnie Mac.
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May he rest in peace , poor Vince
 

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It's not that bad. It will never be as good as the olden days, or more recently, 2001 (the Invasion). But it's doing okay. Lets wait and see what happens with the McMahon angle first before we judge it. I like it so far because it's the most shocking thing they've done in years. Also the draft was good for RAW, it should be awesome with that much talent and maineventers. Bad news for Smackdown, but they'll cope as always.

Only thing I'm pissed off about is Kennedy moving from Smackdown to RAW, thus stopping the Edge/Kennedy feud that would have been a cracker. :(
 
I used to be a mad wrestling fan but not these days. Does that mean Vince doesn't want to appear on wrestling again?
 
The quality of the wrestling is not as good as it used to be. I seen this match recently where one guy on the mat, the other tried to drop a leg accross his head and landed a good foot too wide (ie missed him completely) and then the guy on the mat started writhing in pain like he had been hit. But the classic is the guy who has taken a beating that no person could come back from then suddenly finds the energy and strength to jump around like an acrobat. Makes me laugh.

Vince will be back at Vengeance I think.
 
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The quality of the wrestling is not as good as it used to be. I seen this match recently where one guy on the mat, the other tried to drop a leg accross his head and landed a good foot too wide (ie missed him completely) and then the guy on the mat started writhing in pain like he had been hit. But the classic is the guy who has taken a beating that no person could come back from then suddenly finds the energy and strength to jump around like an acrobat. Makes me laugh.

Vince will be back at Vengeance I think.
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Gotta love how one guy in a tag match gets pounded on for 10 minutes straight, then somehow finds the energy to jump halfway across the ring to make the tag. :D It's all so predictable. I only watch it now for the comedy value. I don't know, there's something funny about watching guys like Sabu throw a chair halfway across the ring and his opponent just standing there and letting it hit him. :p
 
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now Chris Benoit is dead.


but that's not funny.
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:eek: Man, that sucks. Benoit was awesome...and I also shared the same birthday with him, though he's 9 years older than me.
 

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Umm I dont really know what to say?

what do you say if it is true that Benoit took out not only himself but his ife and son aswell.

it was reported on prowrestling.com that Vince announced at the start of Raw this week (330 tomorrow on fox8) that his death was indeed a work - but Benoits was real.

its taken me 15mins at least since i saw the news to gather any semblance of thoughts.

Why Chris Why??
 
hobart cat said:
Umm I dont really know what to say?

what do you say if it is true that Benoit took out not only himself but his ife and son aswell.

it was reported on prowrestling.com that Vince announced at the start of Raw this week (330 tomorrow on fox8) that his death was indeed a work - but Benoits was real.

its taken me 15mins at least since i saw the news to gather any semblance of thoughts.

Why Chris Why??
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They're thinking steroids had something to do with it. They found some in his home, but think it'll be up to months before they get the toxicology reports back to find out for sure.
 

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They are now saying his son had needle marks on his arm and aparently was a very tiny boy for his age , They say Beniot was troubled by this . which may explain the steroids found in the house.
 
Chris Benoit comitted a double murder suicide involving his wife and kids. Reports say that there was no evidence of steroids in his home and that it was a deliberate and intentional act, not one of rage. He bound his wife and choked her to death in front of their 7 year old son daniel after which Benoit then did the same thing to Daniel. He then took his own life. Before the crime he had sent many text messages to his fellow colleagues which entailed exactly where he lived. 5 times he sent his home address to different superstars detailing where he lived. WWE officials then asked Georgia sheriffs office to stop at the Benoit family residence where they quickly found the bodies of Chris, Daniel and Nancy.

Chris Benoit deserves no respect at all for his past life and i spit upon his memory. Burn in hell, Chris Benoit.
 
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Chris Benoit comitted a double murder suicide involving his wife and kids. Reports say that there was no evidence of steroids in his home and that it was a deliberate and intentional act, not one of rage. He bound his wife and choked her to death in front of their 7 year old son daniel after which Benoit then did the same thing to Daniel. He then took his own life. Before the crime he had sent many text messages to his fellow colleagues which entailed exactly where he lived. 5 times he sent his home address to different superstars detailing where he lived. WWE officials then asked Georgia sheriffs office to stop at the Benoit family residence where they quickly found the bodies of Chris, Daniel and Nancy.

Chris Benoit deserves no respect at all for his past life and i spit upon his memory. Burn in hell, Chris Benoit.
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if that is true, i agree.
 
Cops eye 'roid rage in wrestler's murder-suicide

Ex-star Benoit killed wife, son, self in grisly crime spread out over weekend
The Associated Press
Updated: 10:29 a.m. ET June 27, 2007

FAYETTEVILLE, Ga. - Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife, suffocated his 7-year-old son and placed a Bible next to their bodies before hanging himself with a weight-machine pulley, authorities said Tuesday.

Investigators found anabolic steroids in the house and want to know whether the muscle man nicknamed “The Canadian Crippler” was unhinged by the bodybuilding drugs, which can cause paranoia, depression and explosive outbursts known as “roid rage.”

Authorities offered no motive for the killings, which were spread out over a weekend, and would not discuss Benoit’s state of mind. No suicide note was found.

“In a community like this it’s bizarre to have a murder-suicide, especially involving the death of a 7-year-old,” District Attorney Scott Ballard said. “I don’t think we’ll ever be able to wrap our minds around this.”

The Montreal-born Benoit was one of the stars of the WWE wrestling circuit and was known for his wholesome family-man image. His wife, Nancy, was a wrestling stage manager who worked under the name “Woman.” They married in 2000.

When he won the world heavyweight championship in 2004, Benoit (pronounced ben-WAH) hoisted the belt over his head and invited his wife and child into the ring to celebrate. Asked by the Calgary Sun that year to name his worst vice, Benoit replied: “Quality time with my family is a big vice. It’s something I’ll fight for and crave.”

Despite those appearances, Nancy Benoit had filed for a divorce in 2003, saying the couple’s three-year marriage was irrevocably broken and alleging “cruel treatment.” She later dropped the complaint, as well as a request for a restraining order in which she charged that the 5-foot-10, 220-pound Benoit had threatened her and had broken furniture in their home.

In the divorce filing, she said Benoit made more than $500,000 a year as a professional wrestler and asked for permanent custody of Daniel and child support. In response, Benoit sought joint custody.

The bodies were found Monday afternoon in the house, off a gravel road in this suburb about 20 miles south of Atlanta.

Benoit’s 43-year-old wife was killed Friday in an upstairs family room, her feet and wrists were bound and there was blood under her head, indicating a possible struggle, Ballard said. Daniel was probably killed late Saturday or early Sunday, the body found in his bed, the district attorney said.

Benoit, 40, apparently hanged himself several hours and as long as a day later, Ballard said. His body was found in a downstairs weight room, his body found hanging from the pulley of a piece of exercise equipment.

A closed Bible was placed next to the bodies of the wife and son, authorities said.

The prosecutor said he found it “bizarre” that the wrestler spread out the killings over a weekend and appeared to remain in the house for up to a day with the bodies.

Ballard said Benoit had sent two text messages to acquaintances, one saying that his wife and son were sick. The other, to a neighbor, said the door to the house was open and that the pets were outside. The prosecutor said the messages appeared to be an attempt to get someone to the home to find the bodies after his suicide.

The boy had old needle marks in his arms, Ballard said. He said he had been told the parents considered him undersized and had given him growth hormones.

“The boy was very small, even dwarfed,” Ballard said.

Toxicology test results may not be available for weeks or even months, Ballard said. As for whether steroids played a role in the crime, he said: “We don’t know yet. That’s one of the things we’ll be looking at.”

Benoit received drug deliveries from a Florida business that sold steroids, human growth hormone and testosterone on the Internet, according to the Albany County, N.Y., District Attorney’s Office, which is investigating the business, MedXLife.com.

Six people, including two of the pharmacy’s owners, have pleaded guilty in the Albany investigation, and 20 more have been arrested, including doctors and pharmacists.

Steroids have been linked to the deaths of several professional wrestlers in recent years. Eddie Guerrero, one of Benoit’s best friends, died in 2005 from heart failure linked to long-term steroid use.

The father of Curt “Mr. Perfect” Hennig blamed steroids and painkillers for Hennig’s drug overdose death in 2003. Davey Boy Smith, the “British Bulldog,” died in 2002 from heart failure that a coroner said was probably caused by steroids.

The WWE, based in Stamford, Conn., issued a news release Tuesday evening saying steroids “were not and could not be related to the cause of death.”

“The physical findings announced by authorities indicate deliberation, not rage,” the company said, adding that Benoit tested negative April 10, the last time he was tested for drugs.

Benoit was a quiet, roughhewn figure amid the glitz and bluster of pro wrestling. He performed under his real name, eschewed scripted personas and didn’t bother to fix a gap where he had lost one of his front teeth. (According to the WWE Web site, he lost the tooth while roughhousing with his pet Rottweiler.)

His signature move was the “Crippler Crossface,” in which he would lock his hands around an opponent’s face and stretch his neck.

“You always rooted for him, because he was a good guy and he overcame the odds,” said Dave Meltzer, editor of the Wrestling Observer, a weekly news letter. “It’s like if you watched ‘Rocky,’ and in the end it comes out that Rocky killed his wife and his son.”

Benoit met his wife in the 1990s when she was married to rival wrestler Kevin Sullivan. As part of the scripted rivalry, Benoit and Nancy were supposed to act as if they were having an affair. A real romance blossomed, and she left Sullivan for Benoit.

Neighbors said the Benoits led a low-key lifestyle.

“We would see Chris walking in his yard from time to time. He wasn’t rude, but he wasn’t really outwardly warm,” said Alaina Jones, who lives across the street.

Jimmy Baswell, who was Benoit’s driver for more than five years, placed a white wreath at their gate. “They always seemed like they were the happiest people,” he said.

World Wrestling Entertainment said on its Web site that it asked authorities to check on Benoit and his family after being alerted by friends who had received “several curious text messages sent by Benoit early Sunday morning.”

“He was like a family member to me, and everyone in my family is taking it real hard,” said fellow Canadian Bret Hart, a five-time champion.

The WWE canceled its live “Monday Night RAW” card in Corpus Christi, Texas, after the bodies were discovered.

Monday’s show was supposed to be a memorial service for WWE owner Vince McMahon. In a storyline concocted by the WWE, McMahon was supposedly “assassinated” in a limousine explosion two weeks earlier. McMahon appeared at the beginning of Monday’s telecast and acknowledged the bombing was made up.

The McMahon storyline has been dropped.
 

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