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[Gibbsy]

St Kilda's GF page is mislabelled:

 

[Gibbsy]

St Kilda 2018 Pride has Pepper Money on the back, a bigger Est. 1873, and thicker white outlines on the numbers:

The same again was used in 2019:

 

[Gibbsy]

A bit like St Kilda, Sydney only had the Puma logo added late in the year for 1997:

There was no logo in Round 18:

And nothing in Round 19:



But there was in Round 20:

In summary:
1997 R1–R19: non-Puma
1997 R20–QF: Puma

 

[Gibbsy]

You might guess where I'm going here... the same takes place with Brisbane in 1997!

Here they are in Round 6, with no Puma logo:

But by Round 7 the following week against West Coast, it is there:

In summary

1997 R1–R6: non-Puma
1997 R7–QF: Puma

 

[Gibbsy]

Swans 2011 QBE 125 one-off
The hoop alignment is different; there are three hoops on the back below the number rather than two. The text 'Celebrating 125 Years' is much bigger, and aligned differently.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Needs a different Dick Smith logo for 2008.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

In summary:
1997 R1–R19: non-Puma
1997 R20–QF: Puma

For young Crows fans, (born 1995-later) this is Matthew Nicks with hair.

 

[Gibbsy]

I'm always looking out for guernsey designs that seemingly get used for more than one season in the modern era. For collectors, how can you tell two different seasons' guernseys apart?

Take the Swans' 2018–19 Indigenous jumper...

Here is the 2018 variant:

And now here is 2019:

The difference? The AFL logo on the 2019 variant has a thick red outline. Blink and you'll miss it, but it's enough to differentiate the two jumpers and be worthy of its own entry on FJ.

The Swans' 2022–23 Indigenous jumper is similarly worthy of investigation:





Firstly, just a note that the Real Estate sponsor on the back here is using the old logo/font, and the opacity on the background is too heavy. But we are actually looking at the differences between the physical product. And I found it difficult at first, given the logo and design positioning was the same, as was the numbers, as was the jock tag.

But let's take a closer look at 2022 below, from two different games that year:

And now, let's look at 2023:

The way I see it, there are 3 small differences between 2022 and 2023:

1. The background pattern has a slightly lower opacity in 2023, allowing for greater visibility
2. The SMFC on the back of the collar is in a thin font, not a thick font
3. The Est. 1874 on the inner collar is in a big font, not a small font (not visible on players)

 

[Gibbsy]

The kerning and positioning on this 90s WCE logo is a bit off; the yellow might be a bit darker too?

 

[Gibbsy]

West Coast pre-season 1997 and 1998

1997 looks good, although the numbers are thinner with a thick white outline:





1998 has the Puma logo in the middle, numbers are the same thickness:







I've been searching for ages for a picture of a 1999 pre-season jumper to compare but I can't, looks good though:

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Needs a different Dick Smith logo for 2008.

To quote myself, the letters are a bit more blocky than is depicted here.

 

[Mr Eagle]

Doggies' shorts need revision. Side stripes are curved and the colours reversed.

 

[Oakes23]

I've tried my best with Carlton, I've cut out all the one offs when other logos have been in use so I'd say this is reliable.

The age old problem, what is an official logo.
Footscray players wore the middle logo on club blazers.
But I don't know that it was ever used as an official club logo, like the two on either side of it
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[Oakes23]

Also, is there anywhere where I could find the vectors of the logos used on the website? I know they're 300 x 300 because of copyright (I'd assume) but I'd love to have the hq versions

 

[jdBombers3598]

Good luck Rob fixing all of these up.. So many

 

[Gibbsy]

Good luck Rob fixing all of these up.. So many

I am happy to stop if Mero requests me, although I doubt he minds – the genesis of the site was born from a want to fix historical inaccuracies. So too this thread.

I don’t have any expectation on them being completed in any sort of quick turnaround; life is more important. I’m just glad such a service exists.

 

[Mero]

I am happy to stop if Mero requests me, although I doubt he minds – the genesis of the site was born from a want to fix historical inaccuracies. So too this thread.

I don’t have any expectation on them being completed in any sort of quick turnaround; life is more important. I’m just glad such a service exists.

I am going through them one by one.
All those posts I have Liked, I have made an attempt to fix.
And I am most appreciative of Gibby's editing work.
(And anyone else that finds something wrong, and can show in a pic what the correction should be)

 

[Oakes23]

I am going through them one by one.
All those posts I have Liked, I have made an attempt to fix.
And I am most appreciative of Gibby's editing work.
(And anyone else that finds something wrong, and can show in a pic what the correction should be)

The Geelong guernsey says 2023 - 2025 but still has the golden premiership logo on it

 

[Mero]

West Coast pre-season 1997 and 1998

1997 looks good, although the numbers are thinner with a thick white outline:

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1998 has the Puma logo in the middle, numbers are the same thickness:

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I've been searching for ages for a picture of a 1999 pre-season jumper to compare but I can't, looks good though:

Gibbsy edits are completed.
Thank you for your dedication.

Now to the rest. I will get to them eventually.

 

[Mero]

To quote myself, the letters are a bit more blocky than is depicted here.

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Is this Dick more like what you're looking for?

 

[Andonis1997]

Oh goody, my first historical find! According to Blueseum and what they've named images on this page, there's an outlier to what's in FJ.

They're saying this is 1910, where you've mentioned they stopped wearing this in 1909.

This is then 1911:


Here is where things also get interesting. Carlton 1912, supposedly Round 2 against Fitzroy according to the Blueseum.

Note the very basic CFC monogram on the majority of players, rather than the 1911 version.

1913 basically everyone except for Mr Barningham reverted back to the fancier design without the Cricket Club mention.

How would you like me to research this one further Mero ?

 

[RedmanWasHere]

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Is this Dick more like what you're looking for?

This is a more satisfactory Dick pick.

Thanks Mero.

 

[Andonis1997]

Oh goody, my first historical find! According to Blueseum and what they've named images on this page, there's an outlier to what's in FJ.

They're saying this is 1910, where you've mentioned they stopped wearing this in 1909.
View attachment 2364908
This is then 1911:
View attachment 2364913

Here is where things also get interesting. Carlton 1912, supposedly Round 2 against Fitzroy according to the Blueseum.
View attachment 2364904
Note the very basic CFC monogram on the majority of players, rather than the 1911 version.

1913 basically everyone except for Mr Barningham reverted back to the fancier design without the Cricket Club mention.
View attachment 2364909
How would you like me to research this one further Mero ?

Further to this one,
1912 semi final v Geelong - simplified CFC monogram on the left.

Prelim V Essendon, with both monograms:


Regarding 1910's removal of the Cricket Club in the monogram, this is Round 4 vs South Melbourne:

And Round 7's image below, so we just need to find a better indication when they started to transition properly, otherwise the way you have it on the website is accurate enough

 

[Mero]

Oh goody, my first historical find! According to Blueseum and what they've named images on this page, there's an outlier to what's in FJ.

They're saying this is 1910, where you've mentioned they stopped wearing this in 1909.
View attachment 2364908
This is then 1911:
View attachment 2364913

Here is where things also get interesting. Carlton 1912, supposedly Round 2 against Fitzroy according to the Blueseum.
View attachment 2364904
Note the very basic CFC monogram on the majority of players, rather than the 1911 version.

1913 basically everyone except for Mr Barningham reverted back to the fancier design without the Cricket Club mention.
View attachment 2364909
How would you like me to research this one further Mero ?

I would speculate that the 1912 version may have been new jumpers issued as they were the first jumpers with numbers on them.
Perhaps they had to get a new set, with numbers, and got a less detailed monogram sewn on.
Then at the end of that season determined the scripted monogram was what they wanted.

I would be interested in more photos than can be found at this site:

| Carlton Team Photos

www.hiddenfootyhistories.org

And a really good front on image of the 1912 monogram would be helpful

Looks like every version of it is slightly different to the next. I came up with this

 

[Mero]

I will be away from my PC for two weeks, so there will be no updates to the site until at least the beginning of August.