yarran V sidebottom

[OniAu]

His Aunty would be faster than Sidebottom and the rest of your mids.

If we had your overpaid and overrated spud recruiters, we'd draft flash in the pans like Dale Thomas because they played well in the TAC Cup final.

Derek Hine finalises his rankings by looking at BF's draft board and Inside Football.

Don't let facts get in the way of a poor troll.

Sidebottom is just 13 days younger than Yarran who kicked 39 goals in 13 WAFL games.

Kane Lucas and Dustin Martin are just six and five months older than Yarran.

Sidebottom and Beams are about as likely to be superstars as Cloke, Anthony, Swan, O'Bree, Shaw, Ball, Maxwell and Pendlebury.

The Pies are a well coached and well drilled team, yet they have stuff all elite talent to help them go all the way when it matters.

Collingwood were the only finalist who didn't have a superstar or future superstar on their list.

Yarran has a lot to prove , your rookie list pick did a hell of a lot more than him last year, just think you could have had rich another mid and still had a forward crumber, looks like youve snuffed that high pick though.

Very little players are labelled superstars, pity you guys had one of those yet failed to win a final. Discuss

 

[Jamie007]

Yarran will be a star..

Sidebottom will be another Mcgough and will be playing at Stkilda in 2011 and then delisted... Discuss.

 

[Rosstickle]

Who do you prefer? The Neon Leon's of the league can at their best can win you a game. At their worst they'll cost you as many as they win (Pies probably would have won that 2002 GF had Collingwood even had an average player in Davis's spot). The Luke Ball's of the world are good solid goers who will contribute to but not individually win you games.

Is 10 goals from the midfield in a TAC cup grand final what you would consider match winning?

 

[bluesforever]

What a funny poll. Apart from the obvious Carlton supporters, Yarran isn’t in the same league. Carlton supporters are still trying to come to terms with and justify letting either one of Rich, Vickery, Ziebell or Sidebottom slip by.

Vickery. Now that is pretty funny. I would take Rich, Ziebell but not Sidebottom over Yarran at the point. Vickery will be ANOTHER Richmond draft blunder.

 

[doppleganger]

If Yarran played for Cololingwood you'd all say he's the next big thing. Just like most of you think Anthony is more than an average forward.

At least we only see him becoming a potential game breaker.

Yarran would be classed next to Brad Dick...ie a really quick, flashy goal sneak who will hopefully play some decent footy, but will only ever flash in and out of games......well in the short term future anyway. Best case scenario being that blossom L.Davis like after 5 years in the system

Sidebottom already has dominated an AFL final.....miles ahead of Yarran and Dick, and plenty of potential for further improvement.

Who cares what oppo fans think of Anthony, in the entire league only 18 players averaged over 2 goals per game......Anthony was one of them, and only 11 players kicked 50 or more goals.....Anthony was one of them.

 

[Hodgepodge]

If we're going on potential, then surely Sidebottom's ten goals in a TAC GF shows more than anything Yarran's cooked up at the Bullants?

Sidebottom for me.

 

[joxstrap]

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"Highlight" 1: Nicely roves a loose ball with one touch pickup, delivers a hospital handpass to the feet of a team-mate, which bounces before getting to its target. Clanger 1. Doesn't go hard at the loose ball second time around. Turn over.

"Highlight" 2: Nice pickup off the half volley, only to horribly shank a kick to the advantage of the opposition. Clanger 2. Turn over.

"Highlight" 3: Finally wins the ball after short-stepping a contest, kicks with as little pressure as you could possibly hope to have on a footy field, horrible shank, perhaps exposing a lack of penetration on his kick, either way missed the target and put his team mates under real pressure. Clanger 3, turn over.

"Highlight" 4: Avoids running at the ball to take a mark, because an opposition player is coming. Takes the ball on the half volley, only luck gives him this touch, and gets off an easy handball.

"Highlight" 5: Another handball, woo no clanger.

"Highlight" 6: Mark, but getting the ball direcly on the tit from Daniel Rich helps. Misses by a long way 25 metres out on small angle for a right footer.

"Highlight" 7: Nice goal on the run

"Highlight" 8: LOL clanger 4 running at 50% so far.

Admittedly gets slightly better from then on.

Sidebottom came in and has won our time trial over 2k. Yarran is bottom 3, IIRC in Carlton's.

You can only really judge them on what they've done so far, and Sidebottom is ahead on every measure. 10 goals at junior level in the TAC final is only half the story.

Yarran is touted as a potential match winner - Sidebottom is a match winner at junior level and quite probably a large part of our semi final win against the Crows.

TAC final stats:

10 goals 3
29 kicks 12 inside 50s
13 marks

In all seriousness Yarran could end up as a very good player, but all the signs point to Sidebottom thus far.

 

[new breed]

Yarran has allways been rated very highly in WA juniors , Yarran is a very young draftee and maybe should have stayed out of 2008 draft , waited for 2009 . Hasn't handled the transition too well , will excite and is very skillful around goal .

For pure excitement value I would go Yarran every time , but will disapoint supporters for no apparent reason . Carlton coaching staff need to train him to be consistent and pay him a lot to keep Yarran interested and motivated

 

[The Panther]

Sidebottom is just 13 days younger than Yarran who kicked 39 goals in 13 WAFL games.

I played with some guys in the VAFA who kicked more goals than Yarran did in a year in the WAFL. It's not the greatest competition/feat.

Medhurst kicked 40 more goals in a season in the WAFL as a 18 year old.

 

[new breed]

I played with some guys in the VAFA who kicked more goals than Yarran did in a year in the WAFL. It's not the greatest competition/feat.

Medhurst kicked 40 more goals in a season in the WAFL as a 18 year old.

WAFL is very strong .... Yarran played entire season as a 17 yr old in WAFL and kicked seven on debut .

 

[Hodgepodge]

Pffft . . . everyone's always described as 'highly rated' in the draft summations. Then they grow up to be Amon Buchanan or Ryan Houlihan.

 

[Bay Pie]

Yarran looks a Damien Cupido to me. Lots of ability, laconic, will have great games but lazy with poor attitude and majority of games fails to fire a shot. Had 7 possessions in 1 game with 6 ineffective disposals from this. Struggles with the pace and pressure of AFL. It's possible he can learn to cope with that. I have grave doubts. I just haven't seen any patches of play at AFL level that has said, this guy will make it.

Will tease for quite a few years before getting punted. At best a goal sneak in the Stephen Milne mode.

Sidebottom has looked like he belongs already. At worst a 20 possession contributor with good dual sided skills.

 

[Weiterbot23]

Pretty tough to compare after only a year.

Beams had a better year than sidebottom, but most would agree that sidebottom with be the better player.

Only concern over yaz is his application and desire, otherwise you would have to take Yaz on pure potenial and ability.

IMO the 08 draft could be the best of all time. Both should be guns but there in no doubt that Yarran is the riskier pick....with the higher reward


ps to all collingwood fans.....luke ball is a one paced dud

 

[Ron]

Pretty tough to compare after only a year.

Beams had a better year than sidebottom, but most would agree that sidebottom with be the better player.

Only concern over yaz is his application and desire, otherwise you would have to take Yaz on pure potenial and ability.

IMO the 08 draft could be the best of all time. Both should be guns but there in no doubt that Yarran is the riskier pick....with the higher reward

All Yarran has is potential. Along with 50 other kids. If the 08 draft was done again, Yarran wouldn't go top 20, thats how far backwards he has gone.

ps to all collingwood fans.....luke ball is a one paced dud

So is McLean. Just fortunate we weren't dumb enough to give up a first round pick for Ball.

 

[Kramer1]

So is McLean. Just fortunate we weren't dumb enough to give up a first round pick for Ball.

Ok then...Cam Wood is a one paced dud.

 

[smiddaz123]

Ok then...Cam Wood is a one paced dud.

What's Robert Warnock?

 

[Kramer1]

What's Robert Warnock?

206cm of football revolution...well he might be if he can get on the park.

 

[sweet_daddy_coconut]

Yarran anyday of the week only a collingwood supporter from Broadmeadows on smack would think otherwise

 

[Sinner]

Wow. Alot of people picked Yarran. People hate them pies. Sidebottom is 100% better. Class disposal both sides of his body. Yarran can't make the switch to AFL. Or hasn't yet at least.

 

[Gone Critical]

Yarran anyday of the week only a collingwood supporter from Broadmeadows on smack would think otherwise

Well thought out analysis and massive originality.

 

[sweet_daddy_coconut]

the truth hurts aye

 

[The Panther]

WAFL is very strong .... Yarran played entire season as a 17 yr old in WAFL and kicked seven on debut .

WAFL is a rubbish league. A good mate dominated for West Perth, finished high up in the Sandover (Top 10), came back to his VAFA club & was just a player there.

The strength of the WAFL is overrated, there has been countless youngsters drafted ex the Colt system & these players have played the majority of their year at schools in that year (i.e. Buddy).

 

[Knackers26]

Yarrans potential is exponential. Hopefully extra work on the track pays off and he becomes the player he has shown glimses that he can be. From potential alone he will be a better player than Steele although time will tell. Glad we have taken the risk on Yarran as he will be a match winner

 

[The Panther]

From potential alone he will be a better player than Steele although time will tell.

Heh, yes, a player who kicked 10 goals in a TAC GF as a HFF & backed it up with 27 disposals on Bernie Vince in a Final doesn't have as much potential as a player who struggled in the VFL in 2009.

 

[sweet_daddy_coconut]

The Panther probably thought Deledio was going to be better than buddy after their first year aswell tsk tsk