Youf/Academy Thread

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I guess with any junior sports theres no guarantees.
Got to do more with your pathways out of the youth academy. Barely even a championship player in that squad. More playing non league than championship or above
 

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Got to do more with your pathways out of the youth academy. Barely even a championship player in that squad. More playing non league than championship or above
Or maybe they just aren't good enough?

The loan system is actually pretty good at sending them to clubs where they'll play.
 

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Or maybe they just aren't good enough?

The loan system is actually pretty good at sending them to clubs where they'll play.
Think there's something to do with them believing they were better than they are because they won so much at a young age.
 

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Look at any youth cup side and you'll be lucky to find more than two or three that properly break through at senior level.

Chelsea would be happy with that. They'll make some money off load information others. But most of their kids will have a decent career in the game.
 

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Look at any youth cup side and you'll be lucky to find more than two or three that properly break through at senior level.

Chelsea would be happy with that. They'll make some money off load information others. But most of their kids will have a decent career in the game.
United a year later provided Michael Keane, Lingard, Pogba and quite a few championship players. And Arsenal a year earlier Kyle Bartley, Wilshere, Coq & Ozyakup who is at Besiktas.

Some clubs are better at providing a pathway to the top flight than others
 

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Look at any youth cup side and you'll be lucky to find more than two or three that properly break through at senior level.

Chelsea would be happy with that. They'll make some money off load information others. But most of their kids will have a decent career in the game.
Yep. Its a huge step up from being an academy kid to being 'Chelsea quality'. But the kids dont need to be this good to be successful. Its about developing the kids to their best potential no matter what that level is.

Nice to see Christensen leading the way though and showing it is possible. Just need a few more to follow.
 

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United a year later provided Michael Keane, Lingard, Pogba and quite a few championship players. And Arsenal a year earlier Kyle Bartley, Wilshere, Coq & Ozyakup who is at Besiktas.

Some clubs are better at providing a pathway to the top flight than others
Plenty of Chelsea youth finding their way into the top flight. Ake, Chaloboah, Loftus Cheek, Christenson, Abraham, Solanke etc.

And having seen a lot of them over the past few years I reckon we'll be seeing plenty more.
 

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Plenty of Chelsea youth finding their way into the top flight. Ake, Chaloboah, Loftus Cheek, Christenson, Abraham, Solanke etc.

And having seen a lot of them over the past few years I reckon we'll be seeing plenty more.
That's true. Question for chef have there been changes down there since then with approach or staff. Or is it just a better batch of kids?
 

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That's true. Question for chef have there been changes down there since then with approach or staff. Or is it just a better batch of kids?
Michael Emenalo becoming Techinal Director in 2010 is probably the single biggest influence.

Apparently he overhauled the academy and thats a huge part of why we are now the best in the land. Sadly hes now at Monaco.
 

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Michael Emenalo becoming Techinal Director in 2010 is probably the single biggest influence.

Apparently he overhauled the academy and thats a huge part of why we are now the best in the land. Sadly hes now at Monaco.
Makes sense why the 2010 kids who achieved similar success to the more recent ones didn't kick on. Some of those 2010 kids were the ones who let off firecrackers at the training base I think I read with a few sacked before turning 18. Most of it is above the shoulders for them to not make it & some of it is the support network around them (family & club)
 

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Chelsea players now are a different type than they were ten years ago imo. Don't know if it has been a conscious change in recruiting or just the way things have turned out.

They've has good technical players for years but they physically dominate teams now as well. Didn't watch them this season but have watched a fair bit before then.

Lots of players ready made for the step up to senior football imo. Wasn't so much the case in the past.
 

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Dumb boys. Being at the club they'd have seen what Mauricio has done to experienced pro's that have crossed him.
One's quit and Edwards had his loan at Norwich cut short for a shit attitude.
 

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Wut? Man United had 28 players play in the PL last year... are they saying that 20 of them are Academy players because I call BS... for starters I can name more than 8 that aren't academy players: Ibrahimovic, De Gea, Rojo, Bailly, Smalling, Jones, Lindelof, Mata, Fellaini, Lukaku...
Graduates that came through the academy, they can either be still at the club, loaned or sold. Not only still at the club.
 

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Graduates that came through the academy, they can either be still at the club, loaned or sold. Not only still at the club.
Oh right. Makes more sense now. Some of them can barely be called academy players anyway..
 

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