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Young guns playing under 14s(future stars)

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this was the team i selected this year earlier on as the one of the best sides as a combined first year second year under 14 team , next to their names is the tolal votes in the league each palyer attained. now i know umpires usually pick most mid fielders but you will find most of these boys polled well. anyway any votes a good vote..well done to the boys.

back line

james leaney(oak park)(3) vcitor carboni(aberfeldie) (20) stefan zivanic(avondale heights) (12)

half back line

luke bellino(doutta stars) (4) jesee martini(west coburg) (22) damian cavka(keilor) (17)

centres:

joshua cauchi(pascoe vale) (17) hisham kerbatieh (oak park) (9) touk millar(marby) (23)
half fowards

jackson volpato(sydenham hside)(19) ahmad rabah( hadfield)(17) luke pulitano(sydenham hside)(24)

fowards:

nicholas o'kearney(keilor)(7) jack formosa(greenvale)(4) sam gallagher(marby)(4)
rucks:


daniel raji(paco)(21)
rovers:: Chris hormidis(aberfeldie)(19), karan randhawa(sydenham hside)(5)
interchange:

sean stewart(doutta stars)(1)
anthony raji(pascoe vale)(18)
abdul moustafa(hadfield)(12)
adrian rotuno(moonee valley)(3)
braden padmore(moonee valley)(5)
anwar yehye(hadfiled)(0)

thats a massive total of 286 votes in total..a fantastic effort really

the back line polled 68 votes

the mid field polled 94 votes

the foward line polled 78 votes

the interchange polled 39 votes

shows a real balance through out
,,,grreat effort


Good side with a lot of thought gone into it. I really should have put Shaun in amongst those other players.
 
the passion on here is terrific but in all honesty, what is the point of pumping up the tyres of 13-14 year old boys? though the players mentioned have potential and bucket-loads of current playing ability, i am sure that more than three-quarters will get caught by players who show nothing but potential alone at this stage of their development. the players that have been mentioned (martini is a prime example) are physically mature beyond their years than other competitors in the edfl, and are therefore able to implement their strengths in and around the packs. you will notice, a large majority of these players are applauded for their ability to break tackles and kick in a highly penetrating manner. in years to come, when currently skinny and under-developed players begin to gain some strength, confidence and therefore improved ability in all assets of their game (ie skills etc), the 'young guns' of present will be seen as backwards and will struggle to compete with the new breed of developing players. Now, im not trying to stir any trouble, i am just pointing out the facts: re calder cannons; have a look at the initial body shapes of listed cannon players.. the majority are skinny yet highly skilled youngsters. it is these players that will become the future stars of local competitions and higher grade football alike.
look outside the square fellas!
 
the passion on here is terrific but in all honesty, what is the point of pumping up the tyres of 13-14 year old boys? though the players mentioned have potential and bucket-loads of current playing ability, i am sure that more than three-quarters will get caught by players who show nothing but potential alone at this stage of their development. the players that have been mentioned (martini is a prime example) are physically mature beyond their years than other competitors in the edfl, and are therefore able to implement their strengths in and around the packs. you will notice, a large majority of these players are applauded for their ability to break tackles and kick in a highly penetrating manner. in years to come, when currently skinny and under-developed players begin to gain some strength, confidence and therefore improved ability in all assets of their game (ie skills etc), the 'young guns' of present will be seen as backwards and will struggle to compete with the new breed of developing players. Now, im not trying to stir any trouble, i am just pointing out the facts: re calder cannons; have a look at the initial body shapes of listed cannon players.. the majority are skinny yet highly skilled youngsters. it is these players that will become the future stars of local competitions and higher grade football alike.
look outside the square fellas!

Yes I agree totally with what your saying you make very strong valid points. Sadly the Thread is wrongly titled and the author has been pretty much put through the wringer for trying to continually wrap up one individual.
That said however I believe the thread mostly moved away from that ( At least that was my input ) and tried to point out some lesser known players who have the potential, but may not be considered at the top of the class so to speak.
 
i have noticed the shift in direction from speakers such as yourself.. and may it continue! it's just plain ridiculiuos however having junior coaches, parents and siblings alike coming on here and big-naming their relations for pointless, self-concerned reasons.. :thumbsu:
 

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Can't see anything wrong with a group of people looking at an age group they obviously know pretty well discussing players who show potential and who "might" be the Calder Cannons, local comps and higher league players of the future.

It's an open thread and anyone who has seen a player with some potential should pop there name in if they so desire.

FWI, one of the kids being spoken about in this thread was in a car accident on the weekend. He's fine with just a mild concussion.
 
well spoken auckmel, this is a forum for the up and comers..if any othees develop later so be it but at this stage these are the under 14 guns that we watch.

I appreciate what both of you are saying, but I am moreso questioning the "future stars" tag being thrown about on individual players, as i alluded to in my actual post. the discussion itself is fine, i just disagree with the labelling of currently dominant players as future stars, when from my experience, it certaintly is not the case..
 
I appreciate what both of you are saying, but I am moreso questioning the "future stars" tag being thrown about on individual players, as i alluded to in my actual post. the discussion itself is fine, i just disagree with the labelling of currently dominant players as future stars, when from my experience, it certaintly is not the case..

Acknowledge your point, but I think there's probably been plenty of talented kids who've gone on to be very good players in later years.

Would be fun to come back here in 10-15 years though and see what has happened. :)
 
here it is guys my uner 14 team of the year as i saw it ...

back line

james leaney(oak park) vcitor carboni(aberfeldie) stefan zivanic(avondale heights)

half back line

luke bellino(doutta stars) jesee martini(west coburg) damian cavka(keilor)

centres:

joshua cauchi(pascoe) hisham kerbatieh (oak park) touk millar(marby)

half fowards

jackson volpato(sydenham hside) ahmad rabah( hadfield) luke pulitano(sydenham hside)

fowards:

nicholas o'kearney(keilor) jack formosa(greenvale) sam gallagher(marby)

rucks:


daniel raji(paco)
rovers:: Chris hormidis(aberfeldie), karan randhawa(sydenham hside)

interchange:

sean stewart(doutta stars)
anthony raji(pascoe vale)
abdul moustafa(hadfield)
adrian rotuno(moonee valley)
braden padmore(moonee valley)
anwar yehye(hadfiled)

sincere apoligies to those that i missed but this team was based on structure and balance and interchangeable moves. Anyhow this will open up good & positive discussion i hope.

I didn't see Luke play this year but he used to play for my club and did nothing but go the man. He is very undisciplined and isn't a future star, as he smokes, drinks etc.
 
These are some players from Craigieburn Div 4 from 2010;
Sammy Laffan, Ryan Townsend, Jamie Gorgievski, Liam Guy and Jordan Port.

Thoughts on these players?
 
firstly let me say this , any person who gets on any forum to defame the chararcter of any person has no character themselves.. this is about football and what a young player does needs the attention of ones parents or his club or school. smoking, drinking is not something i condone that a young person should be doing but as i always say everyone deserves a chance to redeem themselves.so having said that.... the players you mention are ok players and the fact that they play in division 4 and not div 1 or 2 means they miss the exposure that is needed to to aid them by playing against some very good players in the higher divisions....with all respect division 4 is what i consider the next core of players who cant make the the div 1 team of their club so it suprises me that you dont make mention of your div 1 players in under 14s...which begs the question why arnt those guys in your undr 14 div 1 team?,,, anyhow please keep this forum to saying positive things about others, otherwise dont write anything...cmon guys it says future champions and all is based on opinion nothing more...so lets give good opinions ..

These players were picked for div 1, but as they were bottom age and didnt want to be killed by 200 points every week, dropped down to Craigieburns second team where they were competitive.
 
These players were picked for div 1, but as they were bottom age and didnt want to be killed by 200 points every week, dropped down to Craigieburns second team where they were competitive.
I must say we had a similar issue at our club where kids that were good enough to play Div 1 chose not to for, possibly, similar reasons as well as the fact that they probably wanted to stand out in a lower division rather than test themselves at the highest level regardless of the result. Based on this, I must say that none of these boys will ever be "champions" because they do not have the mindset that will propel them in to that category. In order to succeed these boys must be prepared to test themselves against the best. If they cut it then they will succeed, if they do not then they will be all the better for the experience. Taking the easy option is never a pathway to success. Just my thoughts.
 
These are some players from Craigieburn Div 4 from 2010;
Sammy Laffan, Ryan Townsend, Jamie Gorgievski, Liam Guy and Jordan Port.

Thoughts on these players?

I spoke to an old mate down the Pacco Pub over a Parma and a Pot, he has a nephew at Cburn Eagles.

As others have said whether or not they chose to play themselves in Div 4 or not , but all players should be playing if they can or strive to play in the highest grade possible.

His thoughts on the players mentioned, as you have asked for.

Laffan ( too small, inefective ) , Townsend ( Too Slow, but has grown in stature and shows potential, maturing quickly ), Gorgievski ( Bad kicking, bombs the ball, but knows how to find it, In a top 4 div 1 side would go well ) Liam Guy ( he offered no comment, I took it as he hadn't paid much attention to him), Port ( Too Small, Bad kicking technique, can get the ball, needs to share the ball a little more )
 

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its now cricket season and of course that other fintess sport basketball is all year round..

Top Panther your not trying to tell us you believe Cricket is a fitness sport :D

Any sport where you wear a jumper whilst playing hardly is going to get you busting out in a sweat, Cricket is a lazy mans sport. Don't get me wrong I love it, but one hardly has to exert ones self in most circumstances.

Young guys I know personally have been taking training courses, with Ben Dixons Ultimate Goal
 
Young guys I know personally have been taking training courses, with Ben Dixons Ultimate Goal

Hadn't heard of that one. Looks very professional. A bit rich for me though.

My boys doing LA and Harriers with a session a week down the park working on his ball skills.
 
hey paco pete u make me laugh becoz mate ya dont read the things properly....it says that other fitness sport basketball and mentions that its cricket season and yes cricket can be a fitness game not in playing but in training, non the less u dont need ben dixons training or any other footballers training thats just a money spinner,,have a good day mate

Ahhh ok Panther or whoever you are today, If you actually read my post it's based on sarcasm, but probably went flying over your head.

The Ben Dixon course I attended on 2 Days, first Session only and the Last days session, I suggest dont criticise something you haven't experienced or have any real knowledge of. The Tests conducted by the very same outfit who does the AFL Draft Camp and can give boys an idea how they stack up and where they can make improvements, it also teaches the Boys to set themselves achievable Goals ( Not their Father Goals :D), see that thing flying over your head again ?

Money well spent I would say :footy:
 
John Barnes as Under 16 Div 1 coach is a great outcome too. The transition from U14 to U16 then on o seniors will be alot better moving forward with the likes of Romero & Barnes imparting their knowledge on the boys.

Agreed. This is a huge bonus for the club.
 

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Well, we get our first look at this years U14 reps this weekend down at Keilor Park.

Be interesting to see what 3-4 months has done to the kids.

Well done to Doutta on the appointment of Coaches.

I didnt see the Squad list for 14's up, but did catch the 15's list , great to see some of the lesser known guys I spoke of during the Season are on the List, hopefully they can make it through....long way to go till Queens Birthday though :)

All the best to all the Boys picked for all squads:thumbsu:
 
Ahhh cheers , I wasn't aware of that. I just assumed the EDFL associates must go to different games with a list or something.

Boy do I feel dumb :(

Hehe. Don't feel too bad mate. The clubs forward them, but you can be sure the EDFL are aware (most) of these kids.
 

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