Your 2014 team

[RichoLedio]

Vlastuin?

I forgot all about Morris and scrambled to add him only to miss this guy as well haha, we've got so much depth I can't even remember all our good players

 

[Yelle]

HAS to be the best team for next year

B: Steven Morris - Alex Rance - Dylan Grimes
HB: Nick Vlastuin - Troy Chaplin - Bachar Houli
C: Daniel Jackson - Trent Cotchin - Brandon Ellis
HF: Dustin Martin - Tyrone Vickery - Shane Edwards
F: Aaron Edwards - Jack Riewoldt - Jake King
R: Ivan Maric - Brett Deledio - Reece Conca
INT:- Chris Knights - Shaun Grigg - Chris Newman - (Nathan Foley/Arnot - sub)

Aaron Edwards to rotate with Liam McBean - only when he is ready

Dusty to play majority of the game in the midfield and rest up forward.

Ellis and Vlastuin to rotate throughout games

Need big years from King/Vickery/S. Edwards

Knights is the one that needs to string some games together before we see what he can really do.

This is spot on. I'd like to hear your opinion on our bottom six though. Who are they and how do they compare to the top four sides' bottom six? And what are your thoughts on Shaun Hampson? Dan Richardson believes he will be best 22 next year.

 

[strauchy]

This is spot on. I'd like to hear your opinion on our bottom six though. Who are they and how do they compare to the top four sides' bottom six? And what are your thoughts on Shaun Hampson? Dan Richardson believes he will be best 22 next year.

thanks for agreeing (Y)
My thoughts on shaun hampson are pretty much this - I think he might be able to offer us something..my thoughts are exactly what most carlton supporters think.. and that is that he can be very flashy in moments and go missing - reminds me of Vickery

In the end, I reckon we paid overs and would be very interested to know if we even offered our 3rd rounder because i reckon that would have got the deal done. I think theres a chance hel play in round 1 because we used a 2nd rounder on him. I can't see him starting on the field with that team but hed be more likely to take Knights spot on the bench. Knights might need to play a few games in the VFL and gather some good form before making the firsts.

bottom 6 is very tough but I'd say (from that 22)
1.King (because he goes missing in games and never really steps up when we are struggling)
2.Knights
3.Shane edwards (started the year well but towards the end actually was very quiet and didn't really do much. however his form when hes on song is brilliant.)
4. Maybe Grigg? even though hes not that bad..hes more of a ball accumulator and is soft sometimes. He just hasnt got that hard grunt that players like Vlastuin/Morris/Cotch have. Nevertheless he plays his role in the team
5. Never thought id say this but would probably be Foley - he seems to have lost some kicking skills if he ever really had them. Hes got some good speed but IMO is a good player to be the sub.
6. Aaron edwards or Newman.. both can go missing. Newman is a top player but last year wasnt one of his best and his position on the bench reflects that and also a bit of an age factor.

And I see where your coming from. I reckon the bottom 6 in the top 4 sides fair a bit better which tells us we need some more depth from out best to worst players. Your hear all the time from neutral supporters that our only good players are Deledio,Cotchin,Martin and Riewoldt..even though this is not correct and we obviously have other good players...It's easy to see where they are coming from and why they say it. The games we win almost always have those guys dominating.

 

[SumTingWong]

Having heard Dan Richardson over the last couple of days in a few different interviews, all "best 22" teams should have Hampson and Maric in the same team with Vickery at CHF.

 

[TigermanM2]

Not quite sure why but is seems that players who move clubs just about always get their opportunity against their old side so if Hampson is fit round 1 you can lock him in Eddie.

 

[Deanos]

Updated:

Hawthorn 2013 style lineup: 2 rucks (bailey and Hale) 3 talls (buddy and roughead and gunston)

Starting 22:
FB: Dylan Grimes Troy Chaplin Steven Morris
HB:Bacher Houli Alex Rance Nick Vlastuin
C:Brandon Ellis Matthew Arnot Brett Delaido
HF: Dustin Martin Ben Griffths/Todd Elton Jack Riewolt
FF:Shane Edwards Tyrone Vickery/Liam McBean Dayle Garlett/Andrew Krakour/Matt Mcdonough/Jake King
Foll:Shaun Hampson Trent Cotchin Reece conca
Interchange: Daniel Jackson Chris Newman Ivan maric
Sub: Shaun Grigg

Please note: Vickery/mcbean doesn't mean vickery or mcbean, it just means thats where mcbean's more likely to play, the third spot is still between Griffths or elton or mcbean in this team just reshuffles if its mcbean. Also note Jack is high up the ground because that is where hardwick has said he will play.

To something like this: Dustin Martin Jack Riewoldt shane edwards
Liam Mcbean Tyrone Vickery Dayle Garlett/Andrew Krakour/Matt Mcdonough/Jake King

 

[Tigerbob]

FB: Steve Morris Alex Rance Dylan Grimes
HB: Brett Deledio Troy Chaplin Bachar Houli
C: Brandon Ellis Trent Cotchin Dustin Martin
HF: Reece Conca Jack Riewoldt Shane Edwards
FF: Matty Arnot Tyrone Vickery Ivan Maric
R: Shaun Hampson Daniel Jackson Nick Vlastuin

Structure wise, brilliant. If our talls fire and stay injury free we will take some stopping.

Deledio at half back is just the best fit for us. Adds so much class to that backline and makes it looks stronger.

Jack at CHF, Vickery and Maric deep. I still think we need a small forward with class and an eye for goal. With the big boys deep we need crumbers. Arnot a defensive forward.

Hampson makes a massive difference structure wise. Our midfield will walk taller now.

 

[_RT_]

Having heard Dan Richardson over the last couple of days in a few different interviews, all "best 22" teams should have Hampson and Maric in the same team with Vickery at CHF.

See post 69 for just such a line up.

 

[_RT_]

Updated:

Hawthorn 2013 style lineup: 2 rucks (bailey and Hale) 3 talls (buddy and roughead and gunston)

Starting 22:
FB: Dylan Grimes Troy Chaplin Steven Morris
HB:Bacher Houli Alex Rance Nick Vlastuin
C:Brandon Ellis Matthew Arnot Brett Delaido
HF: Dustin Martin Ben Griffths/Todd Elton Jack Riewolt
FF:Shane Edwards Tyrone Vickery/Liam McBean Dayle Garlett/Andrew Krakour/Matt Mcdonough/Jake King
Foll:Shaun Hampson Trent Cotchin Reece conca
Interchange: Daniel Jackson Chris Newman Ivan maric
Sub: Shaun Grigg

Please note: Vickery/mcbean doesn't mean vickery or mcbean, it just means thats where mcbean's more likely to play, the third spot is still between Griffths or elton or mcbean in this team just reshuffles if its mcbean. Also note Jack is high up the ground because that is where hardwick has said he will play.

To something like this: Dustin Martin Jack Riewoldt shane edwards
Liam Mcbean Tyrone Vickery Dayle Garlett/Andrew Krakour/Matt Mcdonough/Jake King

We won't play 5 talls up forward/in the ruck. Most likely it will be 4 with Maric/Hampson rotating through the F50. Also not sure why you have Elton Griffiths & McBean in the side as they are well behind Jack & Ty for the key forward posts. Finally what the hell is Andy Krakouer doing back in the line up. Won't be anywhere near Richmond in 2014.

 

[Deanos]

We won't play 5 talls up forward/in the ruck. Most likely it will be 4 with Maric/Hampson rotating through the F50. Also not sure why you have Elton Griffiths & McBean in the side as they are well behind Jack & Ty for the key forward posts. Finally what the hell is Andy Krakouer doing back in the line up. Won't be anywhere near Richmond in 2014.

Didn't say we would play 5 talls, just stated that if we were to do the hawthorn style lineup that is how it would look and i didn't say they were ahead of jack and vickery, i put 5 talls to resemble the hawthorn line up that won the preimership and the third tall would be out of Mcbean, Griffths and elton, if we did the hawks style lineup. With krakour, he was one out of four options and you may see garlett is there too so it wasn't saying he would be in, it was just stated he could be an option to rookie list the most likely thing is it is out of Jake king and Matt Mcdonough. I just added extra options to think about as Garlett may not get anywhere near our pick and we will most likely not go anywhere near andy krakour as you stated, just something extra to think about.

 

[unfoley]

FB Grimes Chappy Morris
HB Houli Rance Vlaustin
C Ellis Jackson Knights
HF Martin Vickery Deledio
FF Titch Jack Hampson
RR Ivan Cotchin Conca

INTER griff Foley astbury grigg
Sub arnot

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[Mr Magic]

thanks for agreeing (Y)
My thoughts on shaun hampson are pretty much this - I think he might be able to offer us something..my thoughts are exactly what most carlton supporters think.. and that is that he can be very flashy in moments and go missing - reminds me of Vickery

In the end, I reckon we paid overs and would be very interested to know if we even offered our 3rd rounder because i reckon that would have got the deal done. I think theres a chance hel play in round 1 because we used a 2nd rounder on him. I can't see him starting on the field with that team but hed be more likely to take Knights spot on the bench. Knights might need to play a few games in the VFL and gather some good form before making the firsts.

bottom 6 is very tough but I'd say (from that 22)
1.King (because he goes missing in games and never really steps up when we are struggling)
2.Knights
3.Shane edwards (started the year well but towards the end actually was very quiet and didn't really do much. however his form when hes on song is brilliant.)
4. Maybe Grigg? even though hes not that bad..hes more of a ball accumulator and is soft sometimes. He just hasnt got that hard grunt that players like Vlastuin/Morris/Cotch have. Nevertheless he plays his role in the team
5. Never thought id say this but would probably be Foley - he seems to have lost some kicking skills if he ever really had them. Hes got some good speed but IMO is a good player to be the sub.
6. Aaron edwards or Newman.. both can go missing. Newman is a top player but last year wasnt one of his best and his position on the bench reflects that and also a bit of an age factor.

And I see where your coming from. I reckon the bottom 6 in the top 4 sides fair a bit better which tells us we need some more depth from out best to worst players. Your hear all the time from neutral supporters that our only good players are Deledio,Cotchin,Martin and Riewoldt..even though this is not correct and we obviously have other good players...It's easy to see where they are coming from and why they say it. The games we win almost always have those guys dominating.

Knights is nowhere near bottom 6 IMO. He is one of the few guys that can actually play in the guts for us

I would have at least 8 players behind knights without thinking too hard assuming he recovers from his injury 100%

 

[Sloth Lord]

FB: Moriss, Rance, Grimes
HB: Houli, Chaplin, Vlaustin
C: Delidio, Cotchin, Ellis
HF: A.Edwards, Vickery, Knights
FF: S.Edwards, Riewoldt, Hampson
Foll: Maric, Jackson, Martin
Inter: Mcdonough, Conca, Arnot, Grigg

Possibilities: Newman, Foley, Griffiths, Mcbean, Pick 12, Pettard, Dea, Astbury, Elton, Helbig.

Will be interesting to see which of the younger ones really develop, will be a lot of competition for spots nect year

 

[Tango67]

Going tall and for marking power, change up for wet weather

B: Steven Morris - Alex Rance - Dylan Grimes
HB: Nick Vlastuin - Troy Chaplin - Brett Deledio
C: Dustin Martin - Daniel Jackson - Brandon Ellis
HF: A.Edwards - Tyrone Vickery - Jack Riewoldt
F: S.Hampson - Mcbean - S.Edwards
R: Ivan Maric - Trent Cotchin - Reece Conca
INT:- Chris Knights - Shaun Grigg - J.King - Nathan Foley- sub

 

[sante]

Aaron Edwards will barely play in 2014 IMO. Only for injuries to Jack, Ty, Ivan and Hampson.

 

[tcotchin9RFC]

FB : D.GRIMES - A.RANCE - S.MORRIS
HB : B.HOULI - T.CHAPLIN - N.VLASTUIN
C : B.ELLIS - R.CONCA - B.DELEDIO
R : I.MARIC - D.JACKSON - T.COTCHIN
HF : D.MARTIN - J.RIEWOLTD - A.EDWARDS
FF : C.KNIGHTS - T.VICKERY - S.EDWARDS
INT : S.HAMPSON - J.KING - C.NEWMAN
SUB : M.ARRNOT

23 - 30 DEPTH
S.GRIGG - R.PETTARD - N.FOLEY - L.MCBEAN - J.BATCHELOR - M.DEA - T.ELTON - B.GRIFFITHS - PLUS BOUNS ---> PICK 12 COULD BE A GEM

 

[thetradesman]

Finally someone agrees that Grigg is a spud.

 

[reckless182]

2014 side

B: Morris Rance Grimes
HB: Deledio Chaplin Houli
C: Ellis Martin Conca
HF: Jackson Vickery Knights
FF: A.Edwards Riewoldt S.Edwards
R: Maric Cotchin Foley
Int: Grigg Vlastuin Hampson Sub: Arnott

Emerg: Newman King McBean (Salem?)

Reasoning: as vlastuin said for richmond to improve he needs to improve and i think a few players will do that! I see the back six as extremely solid and Newman would have to come off the bench to break into it even thou i think dimma will keep him back there. Ellis Martin Conca are all very classy mids across the centre as i see them as all different types of mids with Ellis outside gut running Martin hard in and under X factor and Conca i reckon could be a combination of both! With our forward line is the most unpredictable with Mcbean, Griffiths, Petterd, Elton, Helbig, McDonough, King and O'Hanlon pushing for a spot there and playing there during the year. McBean will pass Hampson during the year in my opinion and reckon foley will have a bumper year 07 like after being left out of the elimination final and hopefully will drive him to tthe talanted onballer i think he is!

Go Tiges!

 

[Madtiger2006]

Wonder who we'll get with our first pick. A quick, skillful ready made midfielder would be perfect

 

[Tiger Titus]

FB: Morris Chaplin Grimes
HB: Petterd Rance Houli
C: Ellis Cotchin Deledio
HF: Knights Vickery Jackson
FF: Maric Riewoldt S Edwards
Fol: Hampson Martin Conca
Int: Vlastuin Newman Grigg
Sub: Foley/King

I think all the folks pushing Petterd out of the best 22 are hoping rather than predicting. He was consistently picked this year on merit - not because of injured players. We haven't traded for a replacement. People may not like him, but they should probably start getting used to him.

The team picked above is pretty similar to what we played this year. Hampson has pushed Maric into Aaron Edwards spot. I have Knights back in the best 21 which means one of Foley or King misses.

Any new draftee is going to have to push ahead of Newman/Grigg/Petterd/King/Knights/S Edwards to get a game (obviously depending on position) and I'm not expecting any draftees to debut in round 1. McBean, Griffiths, Astbury, and Elton will only get games through injury or if we rest Maric. It would be nice if one of them started beating the door down and making the slector's lives hard though.

 

[TO HOT TO HANDLE]

Houli Rance Grimes
Vlastuin Chaplin Morris
Griffiths Martin Deledio
Reiwoldt Vickery A.Edwards
Hampson Mc Bean Knights
Maric Jackson Conca
Cotchin Ellis Newman sub Foley

Dea Darrou Mc Intosh
Batchelor O'Hanlon Simon
Arnot Lonergan Helbig
Mc Donough Astbury
King Elton C. Williams
Stephenson Grigg S.Edwards
Out Verrier Derrickx Nahas Mc Gone White Tuck
In Hampson 5 spots left Thomas could be one

 

[WWSD]

Tigers fans what are your thoughts regarding Brett O'Hanlon and Todd Elton? Are they both expected to play some senior games next year or will they be delisted? I saw O'Hanlon play in 2012 and he showed some real promise. Was happened to him this year?

 

[_RT_]

Tigers fans what are your thoughts regarding Brett O'Hanlon and Todd Elton? Are they both expected to play some senior games next year or will they be delisted? I saw O'Hanlon play in 2012 and he showed some real promise. Was happened to him this year?

O'Hanlon got injured early on and then struggled to get going. Elton spent the year developing in the VFL. O'Hanlon would be closer to a game than Elton is at this stage.

 

[WWSD]

I'll give it a shot:

B: D.Grimes, A.Rance, S.Morris

HB: B.Houli, T.Chaplin, C.Newman

C: R.Conca, T.Cotchin, D.Martin

HF: C.Knights, T.Vickery, B.Deledio

F: J.King, J.Riewoldt, S.Edwards

R: I.Maric, D.Jackson, N.Foley

INT: B.Ellis, S.Grigg, N.Vlastuin, R.Petterd

EMG: S.Lonergan, A.Edwards, M.Arnot


2014 Predictions:

Ladder Position: 4th-6th
Best & Fairest: R.Conca
Leading goal kicker: Jack Riewoldt: (71)
Most improved player: Matthew Arnot
Most Brownlow votes: Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio
All Australian Contenders: T.Cotchin, A.Rance, J.Riewoldt

Good luck for next year.

 

[Truetiger]

Our list of players is to good i cant get them all in my side. So based on that i will refuse to pick my team as its to hard to fit all the guns in