Prediction Your 2019 Best 22? (Post Trade Period)

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This is tricky as = wonderful signs of our depth. Happily I can’t fit them all in. Anyway, here is my attempt.

FB: Plowman Marchbank Newman
HB: Simpson Weitering Williamson
C: Fisher Dow SPS
HF: Murphy CCurnow McGovern
F: Bugg McKay Fasolo
FOLL: Kreuzer Cripps Kennedy
INT: O’Brien Thomas ECurnow Walsh

Emg: Garlett Cuningham Setterfield

•Admittedly Jones is likely to play but keen to see what we can do without him and his unpredictability. So I’ve left him out of my team and it’s my team so I can basically do what I want :D
•Speed, skill and grunt through the midfield with bench cover. This allows Murph to play forward permanently hopefully increasing his longevity in the game.
•Mix of experience, mongrel and excitement in the fwd line.
•Garlett and Setters both massive chances to make the team early in the year.
•Thomas in the team. Doesnt start but still handy enough. Kinda bleeds navy blue these days - let’s get him to his CFC 100 games this year.
 

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This is tricky as = wonderful signs of our depth. Happily I can’t fit them all in. Anyway, here is my attempt.

FB: Plowman Marchbank Newman
HB: Simpson Weitering Williamson
C: Fisher Dow SPS
HF: Murphy CCurnow McGovern
F: Bugg McKay Fasolo
FOLL: Kreuzer Cripps Kennedy
INT: O’Brien Thomas ECurnow Walsh

Emg: Garlett Cuningham Setterfield

•Admittedly Jones is likely to play but keen to see what we can do without him and his unpredictability. So I’ve left him out of my team and it’s my team so I can basically do what I want :D
•Speed, skill and grunt through the midfield with bench cover. This allows Murph to play forward permanently hopefully increasing his longevity in the game.
•Mix of experience, mongrel and excitement in the fwd line.
•Garlett and Setters both massive chances to make the team early in the year.
•Thomas in the team. Doesnt start but still handy enough. Kinda bleeds navy blue these days - let’s get him to his CFC 100 games this year.
You could put Jones on the emergency as you need 1 more player. How good will it be to get Docherty and Pickett back later on in the year!!
 
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Murphy borderline for finals 2020 but would be happy if he makes it. Cuningham was a mistake. Should be in (hopefully)

As for LeBois that's just my wish. Long odds though
I just don’t think Lebois can run, isn’t quick enough (to be clear I call ‘running’ what Ed, LOB and Walsh do - just ridiculous numbers of repeat effort runs: some guys can ‘run’ but are not quick, and vice versa) and I’m honestly surprised they persisted with him.

Can’t win them all. I’m delighted with (almost all!) the rest!!
 
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but russell was shit........
I called it first. Got hated on here for it. He fumbled. A bad disease for a footballer and about as hard as ‘lack of pace’ to over come. Immediately removes you as a midfield option and scares the shit out of fans, coaches and team mates alike if a fumbler plays backline. Seemed a good guy.

Lucas just couldn’t kick. Simple as that really. Never fixed it. Had an action as bad as Lonzo Ball’s jump shot.
 

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I just don’t think Lebois can run, isn’t quick enough (to be clear I call ‘running’ what Ed, LOB and Walsh do - just ridiculous numbers of repeat effort runs: some guys can ‘run’ but are not quick, and vice versa) and I’m honestly surprised they persisted with him.

Can’t win them all. I’m delighted with (almost all!) the rest!!
Generally rookies take longer to develop because they have more deficiencies in their game.

I'm glad we've persisted with him.

Better to be sure and give him every opportunity to make it than have regrets later on.

Kind of a reason why I want Hugh Goddard to come good. Think the Saints let go of him too early.
 
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Let the likes of Goddard, TDK, Kerr, Gibbons, LeBois, Schumacher, etc....keep their nose to the grindstone during this pre-season. It's only early Jan and we on BF are putting in our wish-list for Best 22....there is still 2 solid months+ of training/preparation/match simulation/game-plan meetings/more training/intra-club matches/closed sessions/community camps ahead. The above players (and more) must be hurting, hearing that NO-ONE rates them nor their chances of being a solid SENIOR Carlton perfomer.

Might be an unpopular opinion here, but for the love of the Blues, can we talk UP the chance of all of the players on our list. They need all the help/support/positivity/"Bound by Blue" attitude they can get in this important year. Not knocking the Best 22 submissions so far (I too have formulated a Blues side in my head and heart), but those whom are on the "outer" and not getting a look in, still need HOPE to train the house down and impress and show ownership for a "spot" and buy into the gameplan (Game plan A preferably!!).

Cannot wait for Friday's hit-out, where we as a BLUE ARMY can show our love of the club and it's prospects this season.

Hoping all players can hold their heads high, give a good showing of where they are at and keep pushing forward as a unit.

No position should be locked in this early.....ANYONE should be able to hit the track, step up and see that their window is open to REPRESENT in '19!!
 
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Let the likes of Goddard, TDK, Kerr, Gibbons, LeBois, Schumacher, etc....keep their nose to the grindstone during this pre-season. It's only early Jan and we on BF are putting in our wish-list for Best 22....there is still 2 solid months+ of training/preparation/match simulation/game-plan meetings/more training/intra-club matches/closed sessions/community camps ahead. The above players (and more) must be hurting, hearing that NO-ONE rates them nor their chances of being a solid SENIOR Carlton perfomer.

Might be an unpopular opinion here, but for the love of the Blues, can we talk UP the chance of all of the players on our list. They need all the help/support/positivity/"Bound by Blue" attitude they can get in this important year. Not knocking the Best 22 submissions so far (I too have formulated a Blues side in my head and heart), but those whom are on the "outer" and not getting a look in, still need HOPE to train the house down and impress and show ownership for a "spot" and buy into the gameplan (Game plan A preferably!!).

Cannot wait for Friday's hit-out, where we as a BLUE ARMY can show our love of the club and it's prospects this season.

Hoping all players can hold their heads high, give a good showing of where they are at and keep pushing forward as a unit.

No position should be locked in this early.....ANYONE should be able to hit the track, step up and see that their window is open to REPRESENT in '19!!

Can see the positivity and fairness there Zat. But best 22 squads are just an opinion. Just how we see it. I dont see much in Jones, others do. It is fine to have either view and state it. Players like Kerr arent in our reckoning because he hasn't done enough to be in the best 22. That is not being negative at all. Mckay wasnt really in best 22 last pre-season but is locked and loaded this season.

We all make the assumption that all a fit and firing and then update asp layers fall by the wayside.

Each of us typically do pick a favourite for the I/C. Mine is Cuningham but it isnt Kerr, Lebois, Goddard, Casbault etc.

If you think the player's feeling are getting hurt, ask them personally if they would rather play with Cripps in the midfield or Lang. Would the players think of hurting Lang's feelings in this instance?
 
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ha, ndnb, goes to show we are getting to the stage where putting a best 22 together is harder and harder - at least you had a go not like some (me) who just pot your efforts! when the hawks were winning their flags they had maybe one suss player floating about I reckon - schoenmaker was the hawk supporters' whipping boy - can't wait until we are at that point - good effort - poor daisy - wonder if he will hang about after his career finishes?
Thanks mate.

With a full injury free list it really is hard to squeeze everyone in. In saying that I don't think we are close to a Hawks level of output on the field but we will be in the next few years. Just hope Bolts has the tactical nous like Clarkson. This is my only area of concern.

Regarding Thomas, he is a funny guy, real character around the club and is good for our culture IMO. We have lots of dour type personalities and Daisy balances it out and is good for the vibe.

Finally, Will Setterfield (if fit and injury free) is a genuine star. Emergency only because of his return from injury. When fit he could be a future Brownlow medalist. Watch this clip below and tell me he won't be a dominant force at AFL level.

 

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Thanks mate.

With a full injury free list it really is hard to squeeze everyone in. In saying that I don't think we are close to a Hawks level of output on the field but we will be in the next few years. Just hope Bolts has the tactical nous like Clarkson. This is my only area of concern.

Regarding Thomas, he is a funny guy, real character around the club and is good for our culture IMO. We have lots of dour type personalities and Daisy balances it out and is good for the vibe.

Finally, Will Setterfield (if fit and injury free) is a genuine star. Emergency only because of his return from injury. When fit he could be a future Brownlow medalist. Watch this clip below and tell me he won't be a dominant force at AFL level.

Hopefully Setterfield is in full training now.

Maybe someone could confirm :)

I really want Setterfield to play round 1, but my guess is that he'll get the green light in round 4 as:

1. We can extend his preseason to make sure he's fully prepared after a long time out of the game.
2. Round 4 is against Gold Coast. Probably an easier game to work into than against say Richmond.
 

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Just did a video with my best 22 - LINK

Eddie Betts would be really handy right about now.
I think that's a fair assessment of our starting 22.

Cuningham would be competing for that spot in the forward line currently allocated to Lang.

O'brien will most likely try and push Thomas out of the side before the end of the season.

Kennedy will probably play round 1 instead of Setterfield. I'd imagine he'll be held back to make sure his body is good to go. If he's 100% fit, then someone will be unlucky at the selection table.
 
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I think that's a fair assessment of our starting 22.

Cuningham would be competing for that spot in the forward line currently allocated to Lang.

O'brien will most likely try and push Thomas out of the side before the end of the season.

Kennedy will probably play round 1 instead of Setterfield. I'd imagine he'll be held back to make sure his body is good to go. If he's 100% fit, then someone will be unlucky at the selection table.
I'm definitely more hopeful of Setterfield starting round 1 than what I am confident.

It's good to have a layer of depth at the club - now we just need to keep these guys healthy!
 
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B: Newman, Weitering, Plowman
HB: Williamson, Marchbank, Simpson
C: Walsh, Cripps, Fisher
HF: Murphy, Curnow, McGovern
F: Bugg, McKay, Fasolo
R: Kreuzer, Kennedy, Dow

I/C: Curnow, Thomas, O'Brien, Petrevski-Seton

Betting on Walsh staring in the side and staying.

Fasolo and Bugg as our small forward options.

Ridiculously hard to squeeze everyone in, several options left out, who I feel are stiff.
 
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B: Newman, Weitering, Plowman
HB: Williamson, Marchbank, Simpson
C: Walsh, Cripps, Fisher
HF: Murphy, Curnow, McGovern
F: Bugg, McKay, Fasolo
R: Kreuzer, Kennedy, Dow

I/C: Curnow, Thomas, O'Brien, Petrevski-Seton

Betting on Walsh staring in the side and staying.

Fasolo and Bugg as our small forward options.

Ridiculously hard to squeeze everyone in, several options left out, who I feel are stiff.
Jones is the interesting one. Think he needs to play round 1.

Jones on Lynch
Weitering on Riewoldt
Plowman on Caddy

Marchbank as the interceptor.

Or Marchbank on Riewoldt and Weitering as the interceptor.

Think you need the 3rd taller type in there because if either Lynch or Riewoldt get on top of their opponent, you have the option of changing match ups.

Don't know who comes out of the squad for Jones though.
 
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Jones is the interesting one. Think he needs to play round 1.

Jones on Lynch
Weitering on Riewoldt
Plowman on Caddy

Marchbank as the interceptor.

Or Marchbank on Riewoldt and Weitering as the interceptor.

Think you need the 3rd taller type in there because if either Lynch or Riewoldt get on top of their opponent, you have the option of changing match ups.

Don't know who comes out of the squad for Jones though.
Having McGovern in the side and maybe SOSAJ allows further flexibility with matchups.
 

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Jones is the interesting one. Think he needs to play round 1.

Jones on Lynch
Weitering on Riewoldt
Plowman on Caddy

Marchbank as the interceptor.

Or Marchbank on Riewoldt and Weitering as the interceptor.

Think you need the 3rd taller type in there because if either Lynch or Riewoldt get on top of their opponent, you have the option of changing match ups.

Don't know who comes out of the squad for Jones though.
Jones atheleticism and intercepting marking power makes him a no brainer at Full Back. He is fully supported by the club to shine.
But if Richmond are getting lopsided repeated entries then Jones will be the fallguy despite the midfield requiring to hold up.

So in essence we need to see big strides in SPS + Fisher + Kennedy this year and Setterfield + Dow later in the year.
 

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All I will say is; I’m excited about what I think our team can look like with the options and depth available and consequently what it can achieve in 2019 and beyond. It’s up to our coaches now.

Newman Weitering Plowman
Williamson Marchbank Garlett or Cunningham
Dow Cripps Simpson
Petrovski-Seton Curnow JSilvagni
McGovern McKay Fasolo
Kruezer Kennedy Murphy
Fisher Settlefield O’Brien Walsh
 
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This will change but at this stage;

Simpson Jones Plowman
Marchbank Weitering Newman............upsets me not having Docherty here and unfortunate for Byrne also.
This may not be the starting six, but possibly one that may spend the most time together. Just can't not have Jones here. Has to be there.

Kreuzer Cripps Walsh
Dow Kennedy O'Brien........................Would love to have Setterfield involved and Cuningham on a wing. Maybe a little later.

Murphy CCurnow SPS
Fasolo Mckay McGovern.....................Not unhappy with that, but would have liked Pickett there.

Fisher ECurnow Thomas Williamson.....Counting on Thomas being involved.

Can't have everyone in the team and some we're keen on now, may not have the year expected.
Players I'd love to see at their best and involved later on are: Docherty, Pickett, Setterfield, Garlett, Cuningham and Macreadie.
All these guys could replace some we have listed as first 22 named.
 

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I do often get the impression, watching Jones play, that he has no brain. Or at least is failing to engage it.
Obviously he is not a natural backman and has been playing in the role for 18 months. I don't think I am alone on thinking he will get better - missing Doc in the backline is a blow but that backline needs synergy rather than Jones believing he can take on a whole backline by himself.
 
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