Prediction Your 2020 Best 22 (Post Trade Period)

V_23

Club Legend
Aug 9, 2010
1,409
2,976
AFL Club
Carlton
I made this thread last year, so I thought I'd make it again. What do you believe should be our team for Round 1 2020 and, how will it have changed by the end of the season?

Assumptions:

1. We draft Jack Martin in the preseason draft

2. Pick 9, or whatever it's traded for, will not be best 22 in 2020

3. All players are available for selection but not necessarily fully fit for Round 1 (E.g. Docherty and C. Curnow)

My Round 1 Team

B:
Plowman, Jones, Marchbank
HB: Newman, Weitering, Petrevski-Seton
C: O'Brien, Walsh, Murphy
HF: Martin, C. Curnow, McGovern
F: Betts, McKay, Cuningham
R/FOL: Kreuzer, Cripps, E. Curnow

I/C: Simpson, Setterfield, Fisher, J. Silvagni

EMG:

Docherty -
Coming off two consecutive knee reconstructions I would be ultra conservative with him. The hype of Round 1 and the ferocious pressure from the Richmond forward line is not the ideal situation for his long-awaited comeback. Ease him in Round 4 or 5 after a solid block of VFL minutes.

Dow - Still developing and will hopefully step up and demand selection through the VFL. Tough to be left out for Round 1.

Casboult - Comes in whenever a key position player suffers an injury. Tough to miss selection because of his fantastic 2019, but the right call to start the season with.

Kennedy - Behind J. Silvagni and Casboult for spots. Showed a bit at half forward in 2019, but hard to see him getting a consistent game without team injuries.

Gibbons - Another who is stiff to miss but I prefer Betts and Cuningham ahead of him.

Newnes - Depth for now, could take O'Brien's spot in the team on occasion.

---

My Round 23 Team (Changes in Bold)

B:
Plowman, Jones, Marchbank
HB: Docherty, Weitering, Petrevski-Seton
C: Setterfield, Walsh, Murphy
HF: Martin, C. Curnow, McGovern
F: Betts, McKay, Cuningham
R/FOL: Kreuzer, Cripps, E. Curnow

I/C: Newman, Fisher, Dow, Stocker

EMG:

Simpson -
Makes way for Docherty in the best 22 due to age and planning for the future.

J. Silvagni - Really tough decision to leave him out but, hopefully, Stocker can go past him in 2020.

O'Brien - Tough call but I think Stocker might be more 'ready-made' and O'Brien will have to wait a year or two to fully cement his spot, despite starting Round 1.

Casboult - With our full compliment of talls available, Casboult is, unfortunately out of the team.

Williamson - Hopefully pushing for selection by this stage but I don't know whose spot he takes without injuries opening the door.

---

What are your thoughts on these teams, and your own?
 
Last edited:

(Log in to remove this ad.)

jooce8891

Premiership Player
Jun 19, 2018
3,140
7,296
frankston station
AFL Club
Carlton
I made this thread last year, so I thought I'd make it again. What do you believe should be our team for Round 1 2020 and, how will it have changed by the end of the season?

Assumptions:

1. We draft Jack Martin in the preseason draft

2. Pick 9, or whatever it's traded for, will not be best 22 in 2020

3. All players are available for selection but not necessarily fully fit for Round 1 (E.g. Docherty and C. Curnow)

My Round 1 Team

B:
Plowman, Jones, Marchbank
HB: Newman, Weitering, Petrevski-Seton
C: O'Brien, Murphy, Fisher
HF: Martin, C. Curnow, McGovern
F: Betts, McKay, Cuningham
R/FOL: Kreuzer, Cripps, E. Curnow, Walsh

I/C: Simpson, Setterfield, Casboult, J. Silvagni

EMG:

Docherty -
Coming off two consecutive knee reconstructions I would be ultra conservative with him. The hype of Round 1 and the ferocious pressure from the Richmond forward line is not the ideal situation for his long-awaited comeback. Ease him in Round 4 or 5 after a solid block of VFL minutes.

Dow - Still developing and will hopefully step up and demand selection through the VFL. Tough to be left out for Round 1.

Kennedy - Casboult takes his spot in the team due to his 2019 form, and his ability to provide ruck relief for Kreuzer.

Gibbons - Another who is stiff to miss but I prefer Betts and Cuningham ahead of him.

---

My Round 23 Team (Changes in Bold)

B:
Plowman, Jones, Marchbank
HB: Docherty, Weitering, Petrevski-Seton
C: O'Brien, Murphy, Fisher
HF: Martin, C. Curnow, McGovern
F: Betts, McKay, Cuningham
R/FOL: Kreuzer, Cripps, E. Curnow, Walsh

I/C: Newman, Setterfield, Dow, Stocker

EMG:

Simpson -
Makes way for Docherty in the best 22 due to age and planning for the future.

J. Silvagni - Really tough decision to leave him out but, hopefully, Stocker can go past him in 2020.

Casboult - With our full compliment of talls available, Casboult is, unfortunately, the one to make way for Dow for team balance. Not sure who plays ruck relief in his absence, perhaps McKay, though I'd be reluctant to do so.

Williamson - Hopefully pushing for selection by this stage but I don't know whose spot he takes without injuries opening the door.

---

What are your thoughts on these teams, and your own?
i’d hope by the end of the year tdk and pittonet will be pushing for selection
 

MGVI

Draftee
Jun 2, 2019
9
15
AFL Club
Carlton
I made this thread last year, so I thought I'd make it again. What do you believe should be our team for Round 1 2020 and, how will it have changed by the end of the season?

Assumptions:

1. We draft Jack Martin in the preseason draft

2. Pick 9, or whatever it's traded for, will not be best 22 in 2020

3. All players are available for selection but not necessarily fully fit for Round 1 (E.g. Docherty and C. Curnow)

My Round 1 Team

B:
Plowman, Jones, Marchbank
HB: Newman, Weitering, Petrevski-Seton
C: O'Brien, Murphy, Fisher
HF: Martin, C. Curnow, McGovern
F: Betts, McKay, Cuningham
R/FOL: Kreuzer, Cripps, E. Curnow, Walsh

I/C: Simpson, Setterfield, Casboult, J. Silvagni

EMG:

Docherty -
Coming off two consecutive knee reconstructions I would be ultra conservative with him. The hype of Round 1 and the ferocious pressure from the Richmond forward line is not the ideal situation for his long-awaited comeback. Ease him in Round 4 or 5 after a solid block of VFL minutes.

Dow - Still developing and will hopefully step up and demand selection through the VFL. Tough to be left out for Round 1.

Kennedy - Casboult takes his spot in the team due to his 2019 form, and his ability to provide ruck relief for Kreuzer.

Gibbons - Another who is stiff to miss but I prefer Betts and Cuningham ahead of him.

---

My Round 23 Team (Changes in Bold)

B:
Plowman, Jones, Marchbank
HB: Docherty, Weitering, Petrevski-Seton
C: O'Brien, Murphy, Fisher
HF: Martin, C. Curnow, McGovern
F: Betts, McKay, Cuningham
R/FOL: Kreuzer, Cripps, E. Curnow, Walsh

I/C: Newman, Setterfield, Dow, Stocker

EMG:

Simpson -
Makes way for Docherty in the best 22 due to age and planning for the future.

J. Silvagni - Really tough decision to leave him out but, hopefully, Stocker can go past him in 2020.

Casboult - With our full compliment of talls available, Casboult is, unfortunately, the one to make way for Dow for team balance. Not sure who plays ruck relief in his absence, perhaps McKay, though I'd be reluctant to do so.

Williamson - Hopefully pushing for selection by this stage but I don't know whose spot he takes without injuries opening the door.

---

What are your thoughts on these teams, and your own?
I agree with the majority of the selections, but maybe the following changes for Round 1:

Docherty - A conservative approach does need to be taken, but that's what the past two years have been. He is our captain and his experience, size and run will be needed. If he gets through the rigours of preseason, where he broke down last time from memory, he plays for mine. No difference for me if he gets injured in Round 1 or Round 5, god forbid. Better we get those five games at senior level.

Gibbons - He plays round 1 for me, I think at Casboult's expense. Gibbons keeps improving, especially in the middle, and I think the more runners we have in the team the better we will be. Casboult and Silvagni will be playing similar roles for mine, forward and back at least. Better having runners on the bench than key position type players. Casboult is basically there to replace a forward, back or ruck when need be. In an ideal world he isn't needed, especially in round 1 when our players are healthy.

What do you think?
 

gbatman

Brownlow Medallist
Mar 26, 2008
12,281
10,314
Behind You...
AFL Club
Carlton
Other Teams
Justice League
Tough one, will come down to form and fitness. At a guess It will be something like this.

B: Plowman Jones Simpson
HB: Docherty Weitering Newman
C: Walsh Cripps O'Brien
HF: Martin McKay Cuningham
F: Betts Curnow McGovern
OB: Kreuzer Murphy Curnow
IC: SPS Fisher Setterfield Silvagni

EM: Dow Kennedy Marchbank Stocker Williamson Casboult Gibbons

Plenty of good players left out. These guys could all easily fit into the side and it's a side that can be restructured really well.

If O'Brien is out of form or we move Walsh on the ball we put Martin to a wing and bring in Gibbons.
Can move McKay to the ruck and go more mobile up forward but still tall enough at times.
Can throw Setterfield to a wing or in the middle.
Side may lack a genuine smaller centerman, hopefully Dow and/or Stocker come on.
Marchbank can come in and replace anyone in defence if fit just about.
Williamson if fit is probably best 22.
Kennedy is a really good option up forward.
Hard to leave Gibbons out.
TDK and Pittonett will be solid or better ruck options
Owies is my darkhorse for the season.
There is a very good chance that we draft someone with pick 9 who plays straight away.
 

GapInIkonPark

Premiership Player
Nov 22, 2015
3,062
4,846
AFL Club
Carlton
My round 1 team:

Simpson. Weitering. Plowman.
Marchbank. Jones. SPS.
O’Brien. Ed Curnow. Walsh.
Cuningham. C Curnow. Martin.
McKay. McGovern. Betts.
R. Kreuzer. Cripps. Murphy.

I. Gibbons. Fisher. Setterfield. Stocker.
E. Dow. Casboult. Newman. JSOS.


and to round 23:

Docherty. Weitering. Plowman.
Marchbank. Jones. Stocker.
O’Brien. SPS. Setterfield.
Cuningham. C Curnow. Martin.
McKay. McGovern. Betts.
R. Kreuzer. Cripps. Walsh.

I. Dow. Williamson. Murphy. Simpson.
E. Gibbons. Casboult. E Curnow. Fisher.


Can McKay play second ruck sufficiently to keep Casboult out of the 22, which allows an extra midfielder/ runner on the bench?

Emergencies plus Kennedy, Lang, Macreadie, TDK and Pick #9 make for decent depth.
 

Gezza95

Draftee
Oct 22, 2018
10
12
AFL Club
Carlton
Hi All, this was hard, due to deep list we have, its been a long time coming
all fit and can play

My round 1 team:

Simpson. Weitering. Plowman.
Docherty. Jones. SPS.
Ed Curnow. Setterfield. Walsh.
Fisher. C Curnow. Martin.
McGovern. McKay. Betts.

R. Kreuzer. Cripps. Murphy.

I. Gibbons. Newman. JSOS. Marchbank.
E. Dow. Stocker. O’Brien. Cuningham.
(this is an older side - I can see why we let go Daisy)

and to round 23: Simpson must play the last game

Simpson. Weitering. Plowman.
Docherty. Jones. SPS.
Setterfield. Stocker. Walsh.
Fisher. C Curnow. Martin.
McKay. McGovern. Betts.

R. Kreuzer. Cripps. JSOS .

I. Murphy. E Curnow Gibbons. Marchbank
E. Newman. O’Brien Cuningham. Williamson. Dow


Next year if Simpson retires then the likes of Williamson or O’Brien could be possible replacement

If Docherty has a good season, then Newman will be struggling to fit in the side (Docherty replacement)
I have placed Murphy and E Curnow on the bench due to age but will be in the side.
with Murphy getting older, his replacement could be Stocker, then I would get as much games into him to play with Cripps in the middle
E Curnow not far behind Murphy, I like to see JSOS becoming our number one tagger (love the job he did on Fyfe)

Dow is a funny one, understand he had second year blues (at the blues) but could be an improve player and would get into the side
I think Gibbons is a midfielder than a forward and we need a replacement for Eddie if he retires

pick 9 wont play, as we have no real need to blood player quickly - make him earn his spot

and to round 1 2021:

Williamson. Weitering. Plowman.
Docherty. Jones. SPS.
Dow. Setterfield. Walsh.
Fisher. C Curnow. Martin.
McGovern. McKay. Cuningham

R. Kreuzer. Cripps. Stocker

I. JSOS. E Curnow Gibbons. Marchbank

Murphy might retire, if not in the side
 

HavUEvaSeenTheRain

Premiership Player
Apr 20, 2006
4,617
4,894
AFL Club
Carlton
Doc Jones Plowman
Marchbank Weitering Newman
Walsh Curnow Martin
Fisher Curnow Cuningham
Betts McKay McGovern

Kreuzer Cripps Murphy

Setterfield Simpson SPS Gibbons

Bloody tough on SOJ but I went with the run of Gibbons instead.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Matty411

Norm Smith Medallist
Sep 21, 2012
6,501
15,018
AFL Club
Carlton

HARKER

Hall of Famer
Oct 15, 2008
49,981
71,838
Melbourne
AFL Club
Carlton
It has the potential of being a very good team.
Would be brilliant should Betts stand up and kick around that 30 goals next year.
A productive trade period and we may just plug up the holes we didn't this time around.

One advantage on not having cashed in our chips though, is that we can be a lot more specific in terms of needs after the pre-season and early season form.
Maybe Papley was 'the one' but then again, even better possibilities may yet front up. who knows?

Including Martin I'd go -

Simpson Jones Plowman
Docherty Weitering Marchbank

Kreuzer Cripps Dow
Walsh Setterfield Fisher

Cuningham CCurnow Murphy
Betts McKay McGovern

ECurnow Martin SPS Newman

More than anything, just want to se relatively uninterrupted pre-seasons for Dow, Setterfield, Marchbank, Williamson and O'Brien....and of course, Docherty


EDIT: Stocker. I want Stocker to become a regular from day 1 next year. Could really surprise.
 

Matty411

Norm Smith Medallist
Sep 21, 2012
6,501
15,018
AFL Club
Carlton
I'm with you on Stocker, Harks. He's worked his ass off this year and battled injury so was held back. I can see him doing a Cripps and coming into his own (and the seniors) from Year 2. Dare I say a 2020 Rising Star smokey?

Think he'll play a bit of defence or around the ground, but will get a bit more time in the guts - both as our main mover in the NBs and a pinch hitter for the Blues.
 

HARKER

Hall of Famer
Oct 15, 2008
49,981
71,838
Melbourne
AFL Club
Carlton
I'm with you on Stocker, Harks. He's worked his ass off this year and battled injury so was held back. I can see him doing a Cripps and coming into his own (and the seniors) from Year 2. Dare I say a 2020 Rising Star smokey?

Think he'll play a bit of defence or around the ground, but will get a bit more time in the guts - both as our main mover in the NBs and a pinch hitter for the Blues.
I saw him as a first year player that didn't play like a first year player.
No doubt he has plenty of work to do, but even in his early NB's games, he didn't look the least bit intimidated and was often the one intimidating his somewhat older and more mature opponents.
If all comes together for Stocker, I see him as one of those types that get tagged as enforcers.
 

Jabba73

Brownlow Medallist
Oct 11, 2009
23,021
46,047
Echuca
AFL Club
Carlton
Other Teams
Vixens
I saw him as a first year player that didn't play like a first year player.
No doubt he has plenty of work to do, but even in his early NB's games, he didn't look the least bit intimidated and was often the one intimidating his somewhat older and more mature opponents.
If all comes together for Stocker, I see him as one of those types that get tagged as enforcers.
This. ^^^^

Stocker could be the most effective one of our younger kids within two years. Got big hopes for Walsh, Dow, Setterfield etc. and still think Stocker could be more important than any of them.
 

gandaal

Brownlow Medallist
Oct 8, 2004
18,207
14,443
Melbourne
AFL Club
Carlton
B Plowman, Jones, Marchbank
HB Docherty, Weitering, Newman
C Martin, Cripps, Newnes
HF SPS, Charlie Curnow, Cuningham
F Betts, McKay, McGovern
R Kruezer, Ed Curnow, Walsh
Int Setterfield, Simpson, Casboult, Murphy

Emg: Dow, Gibbons, Silvagni
 

JuddgementDay

Norm Smith Medallist
Feb 10, 2010
6,650
6,587
Melbourne
AFL Club
Carlton
It has the potential of being a very good team.
Would be brilliant should Betts stand up and kick around that 30 goals next year.
A productive trade period and we may just plug up the holes we didn't this time around.

One advantage on not having cashed in our chips though, is that we can be a lot more specific in terms of needs after the pre-season and early season form.
Maybe Papley was 'the one' but then again, even better possibilities may yet front up. who knows?

Including Martin I'd go -

Simpson Jones Plowman
Docherty Weitering Marchbank

Kreuzer Cripps Dow
Walsh Setterfield Fisher

Cuningham CCurnow Murphy
Betts McKay McGovern

ECurnow Martin SPS Newman

More than anything, just want to se relatively uninterrupted pre-seasons for Dow, Setterfield, Marchbank, Williamson and O'Brien....and of course, Docherty


EDIT: Stocker. I want Stocker to become a regular from day 1 next year. Could really surprise.
So what does your RD23 look like then?
A good problem to have with deciding who to squeeze out... I would like to see that every week in the team selection!
 

Carlton1234

Debutant
Jul 13, 2017
111
85
AFL Club
Carlton
Hi All, this was hard, due to deep list we have, its been a long time coming
all fit and can play

My round 1 team:

Simpson. Weitering. Plowman.
Docherty. Jones. SPS.
Ed Curnow. Setterfield. Walsh.
Fisher. C Curnow. Martin.
McGovern. McKay. Betts.

R. Kreuzer. Cripps. Murphy.

I. Gibbons. Newman. JSOS. Marchbank.
E. Dow. Stocker. O’Brien. Cuningham.
(this is an older side - I can see why we let go Daisy)

and to round 23: Simpson must play the last game

Simpson. Weitering. Plowman.
Docherty. Jones. SPS.
Setterfield. Stocker. Walsh.
Fisher. C Curnow. Martin.
McKay. McGovern. Betts.

R. Kreuzer. Cripps. JSOS .

I. Murphy. E Curnow Gibbons. Marchbank
E. Newman. O’Brien Cuningham. Williamson. Dow


Next year if Simpson retires then the likes of Williamson or O’Brien could be possible replacement

If Docherty has a good season, then Newman will be struggling to fit in the side (Docherty replacement)
I have placed Murphy and E Curnow on the bench due to age but will be in the side.
with Murphy getting older, his replacement could be Stocker, then I would get as much games into him to play with Cripps in the middle
E Curnow not far behind Murphy, I like to see JSOS becoming our number one tagger (love the job he did on Fyfe)

Dow is a funny one, understand he had second year blues (at the blues) but could be an improve player and would get into the side
I think Gibbons is a midfielder than a forward and we need a replacement for Eddie if he retires

pick 9 wont play, as we have no real need to blood player quickly - make him earn his spot

and to round 1 2021:

Williamson. Weitering. Plowman.
Docherty. Jones. SPS.
Dow. Setterfield. Walsh.
Fisher. C Curnow. Martin.
McGovern. McKay. Cuningham

R. Kreuzer. Cripps. Stocker

I. JSOS. E Curnow Gibbons. Marchbank

Murphy might retire, if not in the side
Where is Papley?
 

Jimmae

Brownlow Medallist
Nov 4, 2003
14,244
20,381
Earth, near Carlton.
AFL Club
Carlton
Other Teams
Tennessee Titans, Tottenham Hotspur
FB: Plowman Jones Marchbank
HB: Docherty Weitering Williamson
C: Murphy Walsh O'Brien
HF: Cuningham C.Curnow Fisher
FF: McGovern McKay Betts

R: Kreuzer Cripps E.Curnow

Int: Setterfield, SPS, Simpson, <???>

Final spot from: Dow, JSOS, Stocker, Pick 9 (probably Martin and Newnes)

Depth: Levi, TDK, Newman, Lang, Gibbons
 

Yubby

Senior List
Dec 20, 2008
266
549
Melbourne
AFL Club
Carlton
Other Teams
Aston Villa
I made this thread last year, so I thought I'd make it again. What do you believe should be our team for Round 1 2020 and, how will it have changed by the end of the season?

Assumptions:

1. We draft Jack Martin in the preseason draft

2. Pick 9, or whatever it's traded for, will not be best 22 in 2020

3. All players are available for selection but not necessarily fully fit for Round 1 (E.g. Docherty and C. Curnow)

My Round 1 Team

B:
Plowman, Jones, Marchbank
HB: Newman, Weitering, Petrevski-Seton
C: O'Brien, Murphy, Fisher
HF: Martin, C. Curnow, McGovern
F: Betts, McKay, Cuningham
R/FOL: Kreuzer, Cripps, E. Curnow, Walsh

I/C: Simpson, Setterfield, Casboult, J. Silvagni

EMG:

Docherty -
Coming off two consecutive knee reconstructions I would be ultra conservative with him. The hype of Round 1 and the ferocious pressure from the Richmond forward line is not the ideal situation for his long-awaited comeback. Ease him in Round 4 or 5 after a solid block of VFL minutes.

Dow - Still developing and will hopefully step up and demand selection through the VFL. Tough to be left out for Round 1.

Kennedy - Casboult takes his spot in the team due to his 2019 form, and his ability to provide ruck relief for Kreuzer.

Gibbons - Another who is stiff to miss but I prefer Betts and Cuningham ahead of him.

---

My Round 23 Team (Changes in Bold)

B:
Plowman, Jones, Marchbank
HB: Docherty, Weitering, Petrevski-Seton
C: O'Brien, Murphy, Fisher
HF: Martin, C. Curnow, McGovern
F: Betts, McKay, Cuningham
R/FOL: Kreuzer, Cripps, E. Curnow, Walsh

I/C: Newman, Setterfield, Dow, Stocker

EMG:

Simpson -
Makes way for Docherty in the best 22 due to age and planning for the future.

J. Silvagni - Really tough decision to leave him out but, hopefully, Stocker can go past him in 2020.

Casboult - With our full compliment of talls available, Casboult is, unfortunately, the one to make way for Dow for team balance. Not sure who plays ruck relief in his absence, perhaps McKay, though I'd be reluctant to do so.

Williamson - Hopefully pushing for selection by this stage but I don't know whose spot he takes without injuries opening the door.

---

What are your thoughts on these teams, and your own?
Btw you have 23 in your best 22!
 

Tim H

Debutant
Sep 23, 2006
135
34
Home
AFL Club
Carlton
R1

B: Simpson Jones Newman

HB: Marchbank Weitering Plowman

W: Newnes C: Cripps W: Docherty

R: Kreuzer E Curnow Murphy

HF: Walsh C Curnow Martin

FF: Betts McKay McGovern

I/C: Casboult SPS J Silvagni Setterfield


Others:
Kennedy
Fisher
Stoker
O'Brien
Dow
Gibbons
Cuningham
Williamson
DeKoning
Owies[/QUOTE]
 

true blue19

Club Legend
Oct 18, 2008
1,654
567
AFL Club
Carlton
Here is my best 22 by the end of year

B Docherty Jones Plowman
HB SPS Weitering Newman
C Walsh Cripps Newnes
HF Martin Curnow Gray
F JSOS McKay Betts
R Kreuzer Setterfield Murphy
INT Gibbons Fisher Cuningham Dow
 

Top Bottom