Your all time aussie test squad (of 18)

[Nugett]

Since the 80’s
Test:

Hayden
Langer
Ponting
Border
S. Waugh
Gilchrist
Warne
Thomson
Lillee
Reid
McGrath

reserves
Langer
G. Chappell
Dean Jones
Rod Marsh
Tim May
Terry Alderman

50 overs
M. Waugh
Gilchrist
Dean Jones
Ponting
Border
Micheal Beven
Simon O’Donnell
Warne
Paul Riefell
Brett Lee
McGrath

reserves
Hayden
Andrew symonds
Ian Healy
Peter Taylor
Jason Gillespie
Craig Mcdermont
Steve Waugh

 

[Pippen94]

Looking at these teams particularly the recent ones, makes me realize Australia may be the most boring team in the world.

Since the 70's we've played the same 4 bowler (3 paceman) format in most tests. We haven't produced one decent all rounder in that time to change team balance.

Even within this framework all the paceman all about bowl around the same pace - no slower swing specialists. The spinners all throw ball up, with no mystery bowlers with unorthodox actions or even quickish pace.

Sublime stroke players like Martyn or Mark Waugh are exceptions while a thrashing machine like Gilchrist is the one real standout.

Boring.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Lawry
Taylor (Matt the FTB on roads)
Ponting
Chappell G
Border
Walters (except in England)
Gilchrist (also an under rated gloveman because of Charnel Nein and Healy sledges)
Warne
Lillee
McKenzie (often a one man attack)
McGrath

 

[eth-dog]

Lawry
Taylor (Matt the FTB on roads)
Ponting
Chappell G
Border
Walters (except in England)
Gilchrist (also an under rated gloveman because of Charnel Nein and Healy sledges)
Warne
Lillee
McKenzie (often a one man attack)
McGrath

Davidson close?

 

[troybe]

Lawry
Taylor (Matt the FTB on roads)
Ponting
Chappell G
Border
Walters (except in England)
Gilchrist (also an under rated gloveman because of Charnel Nein and Healy sledges)
Warne
Lillee
McKenzie (often a one man attack)
McGrath

Whose in for Doug in England?


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[Grand Uncle Horace]

Davidson close?

Very.

I did see him play as well. Wonderful bowler. Different type but miles ahead of the two left arm Mitches.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Whose in for Doug in England?


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Another oldie in Redpath or Brazen (Hussey)

 

[cricketnut14]

Looking at these teams particularly the recent ones, makes me realize Australia may be the most boring team in the world.

Since the 70's we've played the same 4 bowler (3 paceman) format in most tests. We haven't produced one decent all rounder in that time to change team balance.

Even within this framework all the paceman all about bowl around the same pace - no slower swing specialists. The spinners all throw ball up, with no mystery bowlers with unorthodox actions or even quickish pace.

Sublime stroke players like Martyn or Mark Waugh are exceptions while a thrashing machine like Gilchrist is the one real standout.

Boring.

not sure how you can call some of our greats boring.

australia traditionally pick their best 6 bats, keeper, spinner and 3 quicks and varies from time to time depending on the pitch.

the format works, they've been the most successful test team over time .

'genuine' allrounders don't grow on trees (like miller) and we've had our share of batting allrounders and bowling allrounders and even what you'd call some 'white ball' allrounders. lets hope green can be the next big thing, it's still early days , although i feel over time he may be a batting allrounder or transform how steve waugh did into a batsman only and be more than capable of batting at 5.

with some upcoming tours to the subcontinent we may see 2 spinners and the importance of green's bowling.

not real sure of the value of a 5th bowler in test cricket at times, although it's handy if one of the top 6 can bowl a few when required, on a tough wicket or if one of the big 4 are slightly fatigued/injured etc. if your best 4 bowlers can't get the job done, then not too sure why we'd be relying on the 5th.

 

[dogs105]

Good players I've seen:

Mark Taylor
Matt Hayden
Justin Langer
David Warner
Michael Slater

Greg Chappell
Allan Border
Kepler Wessels
Kim Hughes
Dean Jones
Steve Waugh
David Boon
Mark Waugh
Ricky Ponting
Damien Martyn
Darren Lehmann
Mike Hussey
Michael Clarke
Steve Smith

Rod Marsh
Ian Healy
Adam Gilchrist

Tim May
Bob Holland
Greg Matthews
Shane Warne
Stuart McGill
Nathan Lyon

Dennis Lillee
Jeff Thomson
Rod Hogg
Geoff Lawson
Craig McDermott
Terry Alderman
Bruce Reid
Merv Hughes
Damien Fleming
Glenn McGrath
Jason Gillespie
Pat Cummins
Mitchell Johmson
Mitchell Starc
Josh Hazlewood


Pick any 11/18 from those, and I'd like to watch it.

 

[thetradesman]

I'm 23... So I'll pick mine from say, 2004 (was an avid watcher as a kid).

Openers:

Hayden
Langer
Warner

Middle order:

Ponting
Clarke
Smith
Hussey
Marnus

Keepers:

Gilchrist
Haddin

Quicks:

McGrath
Johnson
Lee
Gillespie
Harris

Spinners:

Warne
Lyon

Wildcard:

Watson

 

[cricketnut14]

I'm 23... So I'll pick mine from say, 2004 (was an avid watcher as a kid).

Openers:

Hayden
Langer
Warner

Middle order:

Ponting
Clarke
Smith
Hussey
Marnus

Keepers:

Gilchrist
Haddin

Quicks:

McGrath
Johnson
Lee
Gillespie
Harris

Spinners:

Warne
Lyon

Wildcard:

Watson

great squad.

surely if marnus has done enough already , cummins has ?

 

[cricketnut14]

Good players I've seen:

Mark Taylor
Matt Hayden
Justin Langer
David Warner
Michael Slater

Greg Chappell
Allan Border
Kepler Wessels
Kim Hughes
Dean Jones
Steve Waugh
David Boon
Mark Waugh
Ricky Ponting
Damien Martyn
Darren Lehmann
Mike Hussey
Michael Clarke
Steve Smith

Rod Marsh
Ian Healy
Adam Gilchrist

Tim May
Bob Holland
Greg Matthews
Shane Warne
Stuart McGill
Nathan Lyon

Dennis Lillee
Jeff Thomson
Rod Hogg
Geoff Lawson
Craig McDermott
Terry Alderman
Bruce Reid
Merv Hughes
Damien Fleming
Glenn McGrath
Jason Gillespie
Pat Cummins
Mitchell Johmson
Mitchell Starc
Josh Hazlewood


Pick any 11/18 from those, and I'd like to watch it.

not a fan of lee, harris, siddle, s.clark, yardley, katich, rogers and marnus then ?

 

[dogs105]

not a fan of lee, harris, siddle, s.clark, yardley, katich, rogers and marnus then ?

Harris, yes. Others not in the same class.

 

[cricketnut14]

Harris, yes. Others not in the same class.

then why so much love for dutchy holland ?

 

[Stopher]

Bradman
Warne
K Miller
Lillee
McGrath
Ponting
S Waugh
Border
Gilchrist
Lindwall
S Smith
Morris
Hayden
Barnes
M Johnson
G Chappell
Lyon
Benaud

 

[dogs105]

then why so much love for dutchy holland ?

Cause he won 3 matches for Australia in his 5 tests.

 

[cricketnut14]

Cause he won 3 matches for Australia in his 5 tests.

You mean 2 matches in his 11. The other 9 he did stuff all and couldn't make a run.

Played 11 more tests than I did though

 

[Slysh]

Looking at these teams particularly the recent ones, makes me realize Australia may be the most boring team in the world.

Since the 70's we've played the same 4 bowler (3 paceman) format in most tests. We haven't produced one decent all rounder in that time to change team balance.

Even within this framework all the paceman all about bowl around the same pace - no slower swing specialists. The spinners all throw ball up, with no mystery bowlers with unorthodox actions or even quickish pace.

Sublime stroke players like Martyn or Mark Waugh are exceptions while a thrashing machine like Gilchrist is the one real standout.

Boring.

If you think watching Australia over the past 40-50 years is boring than cricket may just not be for you.

 

[dogs105]

You mean 2 matches in his 11. The other 9 he did stuff all and couldn't make a run.

Played 11 more tests than I did though

Yeah, might be rose tinted glasses , and he probably doesn't belong in that other company. But we didn't win too many then, and we haven't had that any great spinners in the last 40odd years.

 

[cricketnut14]

Yeah, might be rose tinted glasses , and he probably doesn't belong in that other company. But we didn't win too many then, and we haven't had that any great spinners in the last 40odd years.

it's your squad, so your call.

i do remember him playing but i don't recall him being used as a nightwatchmen - what the !!

 

[Bletch]

Dutchy was one of a string of leggies we used from the late 70s until Warnie came along in the early 90s and changed the game. The likes of Terry Jenner, Jimmy Higgs, Tony Mann, Peter Sleep. All good bowlers, and all had their days in the sun - esp. at Sydney. I think Mann was the guy who made a ton as nightwatchman, and Sleep was a genuine all-rounder. Higgsy couldn't bat to save himself. Don't recall Dutchy being any good with the bat either.

Warnie was in a different league, and McGill very unlucky to have overlapped with him, as he would be a clear second to Warnie amongst this group.

 

[Pippen94]

If you think watching Australia over the past 40-50 years is boring than cricket may just not be for you.

Aussie team has had same format for almost that entire time. Would prefer more diversity in player type, approach, surnames etc

 

[James Colorado]

Openers:
M. Hayden
W. Ponsford
A. Morris

Middle Order:
D. Bradman
R. Ponting
S. Smith
G. Chappell
A. Border

All-rounder:
K. Miller

WK:
A. Gilchrist
I. Healy

Pace Bowlers:
G. McGrath
D. Lillee
P. Cummins
R. Lindwall
A. Davidson

Spinners:
S. Warne
C. Grimmett

Very difficult to exclude the likes of Neil Harvey, Bill O'Reilly, Nathan Lyon, Mitchell Johnson (his best was best in the world at times, his worst was park cricketer stuff), S. Waugh, J. Langer, M. Clarke, R. Marsh, and I. Chappell (may even be the best captain we've ever had).

 

[sdfc]

not a fan of lee, harris, siddle, s.clark, yardley, katich, rogers and marnus then ?

Yardley's grossly underrated.

 

[pugsville]

M Taylor (vc)
D Boon
R Ponting
S Smith
G Chappell
A Border (capt)
A Gilchrist
M Johnson
S Warne
P Cummins
D Lillie

T Alderman.
S Katich
S Waugh
B Yarley
R Marsh
I Chappell
G McGarth