Opinion Your best team based on players you've seen.

[Procrastinator35]

My team:

B: G. Southby M.Scarlett G.Ayres

HB: J.Rantall P.Knights G.Jakovich

C: C.Bradley R.Ebert P.Matera

HF: G.Ablett snr W.Carey(c) W.Johnston

F: T.Lockett J.Dunstall B.Cable

R: S.Madden B.Robran L.Matthews

INT: S.Michael G.McIntosh G.Ablett jnr T.Daniher

EMERG: G.Dempsey K.Barlett M.Aish G.Raines

COACH: Ron Barassi

Can see the merit in all your selections here, though could argue till the cows come home on some of them....A highly skilled side indeed.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

I was thinking about the successes of hawthorn say in last 5 decades so from what I Rembrandt seeing (Hudson gets a little leeway as remember his name but his play specific mid 70s so its mid 1970s time onwards, thereabouts.
Very powerful team.
I’m a selector more of roughly 6 defenders of which two must be key positions; 6 forwards of which 2 must be key forwards; 6 on ballers of which 1 must be the ruck, leftovers might go wings if required as on ball division; 4 interchange for the ones that are unlucky to miss; NB: probably a little top heavy on forwards for size but it’s the best I can work it out. Do we leave out Don Scott for Paul Salmon? Salmon the better ruck, Scott a real leader, dilemma?
Who is coach, Allan Jeans for me.

Hawthorn 1970s onwards

B. G Ayres ~ C Langford ~ S Burgoyne
HB. L Hodge ~ P Knights ~ R Dipierdomenico
C. S Mitchell ~ J Platten ~ S Crawford
HF. L Franklin ~ D Brereton ~ G Buckenara
F. J Dunstall ~ P Hudson ~ D Jarman
R. D Scott ~ M Tuck ~ L Matthews (c)
I. P Salmon ~ T Wallace ~ C Rioli ~ P Crimmins

C. A Jeans

 

[Occidental]

I was thinking about the successes of hawthorn say in last 5 decades so from what I Rembrandt seeing (Hudson gets a little leeway as remember his name but his play specific mid 70s so its mid 1970s time onwards, thereabouts.
Very powerful team.
I’m a selector more of roughly 6 defenders of which two must be key positions; 6 forwards of which 2 must be key forwards; 6 on ballers of which 1 must be the ruck, leftovers might go wings if required as on ball division; 4 interchange for the ones that are unlucky to miss; NB: probably a little top heavy on forwards for size but it’s the best I can work it out. Do we leave out Don Scott for Paul Salmon? Salmon the better ruck, Scott a real leader, dilemma?
Who is coach, Allan Jeans for me.

Hawthorn 1970s onwards

B. G Ayres ~ C Langford ~ S Burgoyne
HB. L Hodge ~ P Knights ~ R Dipierdomenico
C. S Mitchell ~ J Platten ~ S Crawford
HF. L Franklin ~ D Brereton ~ G Buckenara
F. J Dunstall ~ P Hudson ~ D Jarman
R. D Scott ~ M Tuck ~ L Matthews (c)
I. P Salmon ~ T Wallace ~ C Rioli ~ P Crimmins

C. A Jeans

That Hawthorn team is amazing!
Damn they have been spoiled the last 40 years.
Three Brownlow winners make the centre line.
Three who have kicked a ton in the forward line. Plus Jarman, Buckenara & Dermie for razzle dazzle.
Tuck & Matthews on the ball.
All six defenders are great players.
Cyril & Crimmins to come off the bench.
Jeans as coach with Clarkson, Kennedy & Parkin all in the box.
Strewth!!

 

[Jascave]

I was thinking about the successes of hawthorn say in last 5 decades so from what I Rembrandt seeing (Hudson gets a little leeway as remember his name but his play specific mid 70s so its mid 1970s time onwards, thereabouts.
Very powerful team.
I’m a selector more of roughly 6 defenders of which two must be key positions; 6 forwards of which 2 must be key forwards; 6 on ballers of which 1 must be the ruck, leftovers might go wings if required as on ball division; 4 interchange for the ones that are unlucky to miss; NB: probably a little top heavy on forwards for size but it’s the best I can work it out. Do we leave out Don Scott for Paul Salmon? Salmon the better ruck, Scott a real leader, dilemma?
Who is coach, Allan Jeans for me.

Hawthorn 1970s onwards

B. G Ayres ~ C Langford ~ S Burgoyne
HB. L Hodge ~ P Knights ~ R Dipierdomenico
C. S Mitchell ~ J Platten ~ S Crawford
HF. L Franklin ~ D Brereton ~ G Buckenara
F. J Dunstall ~ P Hudson ~ D Jarman
R. D Scott ~ M Tuck ~ L Matthews (c)
I. P Salmon ~ T Wallace ~ C Rioli ~ P Crimmins

C. A Jeans

Imagine if that Hawthorn side played against the 1985 Essendon Grand Final team, or the Geelong 2007 combination in a match. How would the Hawks go against those two great teams of the modern era?


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[Saintly Viewed]

Imagine if that Hawthorn side played against the 1985 Essendon Grand Final team, or the Geelong 2007 combination in a match. How would the Hawks go against those two great teams of the modern era?


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If you went best teams of each club say over a nice few decades I’d think hawthorn are too strong overall.
Essendon likely are next then Geelong.

But good BBQ topic.

 

[eth-dog]

If you went best teams of each club say over a nice few decades I’d think hawthorn are too strong overall.
Essendon likely are next then Geelong.

But good BBQ topic.

Not with the state we're in.

 

[Procrastinator35]

That Hawthorn team is amazing!
Damn they have been spoiled the last 40 years.
Three Brownlow winners make the centre line.
Three who have kicked a ton in the forward line. Plus Jarman, Buckenara & Dermie for razzle dazzle.
Tuck & Matthews on the ball.
All six defenders are great players.
Cyril & Crimmins to come off the bench.
Jeans as coach with Clarkson, Kennedy & Parkin all in the box.
Strewth!!

Don't forget Tough n all...With a fair smattering of mongrel to boot....You can't win flags without it.

 

[Shadow89]

I was thinking about the successes of hawthorn say in last 5 decades so from what I Rembrandt seeing (Hudson gets a little leeway as remember his name but his play specific mid 70s so its mid 1970s time onwards, thereabouts.
Very powerful team.
I’m a selector more of roughly 6 defenders of which two must be key positions; 6 forwards of which 2 must be key forwards; 6 on ballers of which 1 must be the ruck, leftovers might go wings if required as on ball division; 4 interchange for the ones that are unlucky to miss; NB: probably a little top heavy on forwards for size but it’s the best I can work it out. Do we leave out Don Scott for Paul Salmon? Salmon the better ruck, Scott a real leader, dilemma?
Who is coach, Allan Jeans for me.

Hawthorn 1970s onwards

B. G Ayres ~ C Langford ~ S Burgoyne
HB. L Hodge ~ P Knights ~ R Dipierdomenico
C. S Mitchell ~ J Platten ~ S Crawford
HF. L Franklin ~ D Brereton ~ G Buckenara
F. J Dunstall ~ P Hudson ~ D Jarman
R. D Scott ~ M Tuck ~ L Matthews (c)
I. P Salmon ~ T Wallace ~ C Rioli ~ P Crimmins

C. A Jeans

Interesting idea...

I'd probably go from 1989 onwards (when I was born) and have a crack -

B: Milburn, Scarlett, Enright
HB: Hinkley, Harley (vc), J. Kelly
C: Couch, J. Selwood (C), Bartel
FO: Ottens, Hocking, Ablett Jr.
HF: Couch, T. Hawkins, Riccardi
F: Chapman, Ablett Sr., S. Johnson
INT: Dangerfield, H. Taylor, J. Corey, Stoneham

C: Mark Thompson

 

[Tarkyn_24]

B: J Clement - A Dunkley - D Fletcher
HB: S Burgoyne - A Rance - A McLeod
C: P Kelly - N Buckley - Pe Matera
HF: J Hird - W Carey - G Ablett Jnr
F: G Ablett Snr - T Lockett - P Dangerfield
R: D Cox - C Judd - S Black
Int: N Riewoldt - M Pavlich - M Voss - G Wanganeen

And then the second XXII

B: L Hodge - S Silvagni - M Scarlett
HB: C Enright - G Jakovich - H Shaw
C: A Koutoufides - S Mitchell - N Fyfe
HF: M Riccuito - W Tredrea - A Goodes
F: J Akermanis - L Franklin - S Johnson
R: B Grundy - D Kerr - R Harvey
Int: J Brown - D Martin - M Richardson - S Crawford

 

[Snake_Baker]

North

B: Archer - Dench - B. Rawlings
HB: Rantall - Glendinning - Pickett
C: Greig - Cable - Schimmelbusch
HF: Kekovich - Carey - Harvey
F: P.Krakeour - Longmire - Blight

R: Dempsey - Schwass - Stevens

Int: McKernan - J.Krakeour - Larkin - Davis

 

[eth-dog]

B: J Clement - A Dunkley - D Fletcher
HB: S Burgoyne - A Rance - A McLeod
C: P Kelly - N Buckley - Pe Matera
HF: J Hird - W Carey - G Ablett Jnr
F: G Ablett Snr - T Lockett - P Dangerfield
R: D Cox - C Judd - S Black
Int: N Riewoldt - M Pavlich - M Voss - G Wanganeen

And then the second XXII

B: L Hodge - S Silvagni - D Glass
HB: C Enright - G Jakovich - H Shaw
C: A Koutoufides - S Mitchell - N Fyfe
HF: M Riccuito - W Tredrea - A Goodes
F: J Akermanis - L Franklin - S Johnson
R: B Grundy - D Kerr - R Harvey
Int: J Brown - D Martin - M Richardson - S Crawford

Matthew Scarlett?

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Matthew Scarlett?

Definitely didn’t have him in my firsts, but by the time I came to do my seconds he didn’t cross my thinking.

Will replace Glass with him.

 

[Procrastinator35]

B: J Clement - A Dunkley - D Fletcher
HB: S Burgoyne - A Rance - A McLeod
C: P Kelly - N Buckley - Pe Matera
HF: J Hird - W Carey - G Ablett Jnr
F: G Ablett Snr - T Lockett - P Dangerfield
R: D Cox - C Judd - S Black
Int: N Riewoldt - M Pavlich - M Voss - G Wanganeen

And then the second XXII

B: L Hodge - S Silvagni - M Scarlett
HB: C Enright - G Jakovich - H Shaw
C: A Koutoufides - S Mitchell - N Fyfe
HF: M Riccuito - W Tredrea - A Goodes
F: J Akermanis - L Franklin - S Johnson
R: B Grundy - D Kerr - R Harvey
Int: J Brown - D Martin - M Richardson - S Crawford

I'm not entirely sure in what universe James Clement gets a gig ahead of Luke Hodge....But it aint one on this planet.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

I'm not entirely sure in what universe James Clement gets a gig ahead of Luke Hodge....But it aint one on this planet.

Clement’s the far better defender.

Pretty simple really.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Pretty simple really.

In this particular instance, simple may very well be the operative word.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

In this particular instance, simple may very well be the operative word.

Cute coming from the grown bloke chucking a wobbly whenever anyone excludes a Hawk from their team.

 

[MortlockWatcher]

B: G. Ayres, S. Silvagni, M. Scarlett.
HB: B. Doull, T. Barker, P. Roos.
C: K. Greig, G. Williams, R. Flower.
HF: A. Jesaulenko, W. Carey, M. Blight.
F: G. Ablett snr., T. Lockett, J. Dunstall.
Foll: S. Madden, C. Judd, G. Ablett jnr.
Int: A. McLeod, L. Hodge, L. Franklin, E. Betts.

Coach: D. Parkin

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

B : Ayres Dench Scarlett
HB : Enright Rance Doull
C : Greig Williams Flower
HF : Ablett Snr Carey Jesaulenko
F : Daicos Lockett Matthews

R : Madden Buckley Ablett Jnr

Int : D.Jarman K.Bartlett M.Voss Akermanis

Emg : Dunstall, Bradley, Hird, Goodes

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

I was thinking about the successes of hawthorn say in last 5 decades so from what I Rembrandt seeing (Hudson gets a little leeway as remember his name but his play specific mid 70s so its mid 1970s time onwards, thereabouts.
Very powerful team.
I’m a selector more of roughly 6 defenders of which two must be key positions; 6 forwards of which 2 must be key forwards; 6 on ballers of which 1 must be the ruck, leftovers might go wings if required as on ball division; 4 interchange for the ones that are unlucky to miss; NB: probably a little top heavy on forwards for size but it’s the best I can work it out. Do we leave out Don Scott for Paul Salmon? Salmon the better ruck, Scott a real leader, dilemma?
Who is coach, Allan Jeans for me.

Hawthorn 1970s onwards

B. G Ayres ~ C Langford ~ S Burgoyne
HB. L Hodge ~ P Knights ~ R Dipierdomenico
C. S Mitchell ~ J Platten ~ S Crawford
HF. L Franklin ~ D Brereton ~ G Buckenara
F. J Dunstall ~ P Hudson ~ D Jarman
R. D Scott ~ M Tuck ~ L Matthews (c)
I. P Salmon ~ T Wallace ~ C Rioli ~ P Crimmins

C. A Jeans

I'd have Terry Wallace in the centre, Matthews to the forward pocket and Platten roving. I'd also have Josh Gibson in Dipper's spot at hb. Dipper would either miss out completely or he would go to a wing, Mitchell into the guts and Plough would miss out.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

I'd have Terry Wallace in the centre, Matthews to the forward pocket and Platten roving. I'd also have Josh Gibson in Dipper's spot at hb. Dipper would either miss out completely or he would go to a wing, Mitchell into the guts and Plough would miss out.

Fair enough.

But Matthews was the best player of the lot, he should be used where it counts, the engine room

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Geelong :

FB : C.Enright M.Scarlett I.Nankervis
HB : D.Milburn J.Hawkins M.Bos
C : M.Turner G.Williams P.Couch
HF : G.Ablett Snr C.Mooney P.Chapman
FF : S.Johnson D.Wade R.Burns
R : B.Ottens J.Corey G.Ablett Jnr

Int : Bartel, D.Clarke Snr, C.Mooney, H.Taylor

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Fair enough.

But Matthews was the best player of the lot, he should be used where it counts, the engine room

Matthews kicked over 900 goals, he had seasons where he was permanent forward and others where he played 2nd rover and played a lot forward.

Platten averaged 0.88 goals per game, Matthews averaged 2.76 goals per game. Matthews kicked over 50 goals in a season on 10 occasions, the best Platten did in a season was 33.

Platten played in 4 premierships, '86, '88, '89 and '91 he kicked a combined total of 93 goals in those years.
Matthews played in 4 premierships, '71, '76, '78 and '83 he kicked a combined total of 264 in those years.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Matthews kicked over 900 goals, he had seasons where he was permanent forward and others where he played 2nd rover and played a lot forward.

Platten averaged 0.88 goals per game, Matthews averaged 2.76 goals per game. Matthews kicked over 50 goals in a season on 10 occasions, the best Platten did in a season was 33.

Platten played in 4 premierships, '86, '88, '89 and '91 he kicked a combined total of 93 goals in those years.
Matthews played in 4 premierships, '71, '76, '78 and '83 he kicked a combined total of 264 in those years.

To sum up: Matthews was the Best!



Great great man.

 

[Procrastinator35]

I'd have Terry Wallace in the centre, Matthews to the forward pocket and Platten roving. I'd also have Josh Gibson in Dipper's spot at hb. Dipper would either miss out completely or he would go to a wing, Mitchell into the guts and Plough would miss out.

Plough would be lucky to make a second-string Hawk 22.

 

[Daniels Riches]

Clement’s the far better defender.

Pretty simple really.

Lol


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