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Your club's biggest short-term list management challenge
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Tell you what, how about you throw in Ollie and SPP then we've got a deal.
yeah unfortunately you guys need another 2 years of early picks but hope SPS turns into a gun with Cripps. Trade out Gibbs for an early second at worst.
Melbourne benefited from getting pick 3 for frawley and got 2 early picks in a very stong draft. Fell the GWS trading will put you in a similar position to get more talented players in.
Look at the F/S picks Geelong got and also the bulldogs. You need a touch of luck when drafting ad want to get a good group of players around the same age.
Whilst the Judd trade helped you guys, I felt it wasnt a full blown rebuild so at least now you can see there is a long term recruitment plan to set yourselves up, and if anything it will happen with GWS have finished there run and players start to leave there.
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Geelong really need a couple of promising key forwards in the coming draft. There's very little coming through on our list.
House & Buzza were plucked near the bottom of the drafts for a reason. They will be slow developers. Both have a very slim chance of even making it going by our recent development of such types.
Aaron Black and Harry Taylor are simply short term fixes and Tom Hawkins turns 29 and has already lost a step just as Travis Cloke did when at Collingwood.
If we can somehow pluck a bloke who has similar progression to a player like Ben Brown, we have the chance to build around him in the future with the small forwards we have drafted recently.
I fear another three years will go by from today and we are still heavily reliant on an aging Hawkins to manage 40 goals or more like Pavlich did in his last years.
House & Buzza were plucked near the bottom of the drafts for a reason. They will be slow developers. Both have a very slim chance of even making it going by our recent development of such types.
Aaron Black and Harry Taylor are simply short term fixes and Tom Hawkins turns 29 and has already lost a step just as Travis Cloke did when at Collingwood.
If we can somehow pluck a bloke who has similar progression to a player like Ben Brown, we have the chance to build around him in the future with the small forwards we have drafted recently.
I fear another three years will go by from today and we are still heavily reliant on an aging Hawkins to manage 40 goals or more like Pavlich did in his last years.
I take it back I agree 100%.
You wouldn't trade him at the end of this year for a pick 16-20?
Fair enough if you dont. personally think it will benefit you long term in getting a potential low pick in so you have a good core group to come through with weitering.
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I would trade him for Adelaides first (pick 14 or so) and a swap of their second (32 or so) for our 3rd (40 odd). This assumes finishes of 4th for the Crows, and 14th for us.
It values Gibbs at around 1300 points (pick 11/12). He turned 28 six days ago. Likely has around 5 years left. No injury concerns to speak of over his career, and definitely improves Adelaides midfield during their current flag window. They're the 3rd youngest side in the comp currently, so IMO they would be mad not to nibble at that price.
They're every chance of aquiring a spare 1st rounder from the Eagles if McGovern heads back West to cover in any event.
Adelaides second round pick this year will be around pick 32 (which after F/A compo and academy selections will more than likely be around pick 35+). There is no way in hell I would trade Gibbs for so low a value. He's more use to us in the side than as a highly speculative early mid stage pick on its own.
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1. Building an elite midfield. The current midfield is two star players short of the good teams but building a list that will peak after Murphy and Gibbs have gone means we need four star midfielders to play alongside Cripps. Hopefully SPS is one, it's going to be hard to do it all through the draft so a big name FA that actually works out this time will be vital at some stage.
2. Getting a high quality goal kicking KPF.
2. Getting a high quality goal kicking KPF.
Figuring out where our list is at, and where it can go. Essendon has a lot of older non-KP players who have been some of our best (Watson, Goddard, Stanton, Bags, on top of losing Hibberd, Winderlich in recent years). The question is whether the younger midfielders will be good enough to step into the breach or not. Knowing the answer will go a long way to determining how we approach 2018 and the 2017 draft/trade period. This is made harder in that a lot of the guys who we want to look at are 2016 draftees (brought in 4 midfielders) or been injury prone (Redman, Laverde). Parish, Z. Merrett and Heppell are a pretty good core though, so if a few look good or can transition into there (e.g. Langford, Fantasia, McKenna, stepping into the midfield), and the 2016 crop look good (McGrath, Begley, Clarke, Mutch), then we're sorted and can concentrate elsewhere. If not, and the older players decline, we need a new strategy.
So need to figure out where the list is at for smalls. Outside of rucks our talls are pretty good. Drafted Francis last year, Ridley this year, JD is young, lots of solid younger options (Hartley, Ambrose). Hooker and Hurley have years left as well.
As to short-term needs, elite mids and an intercept marker for D50 would be the go. Losing Carlisle, Hibberd and Hooker (forward line) has hurt.
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Redman injury prone? He played 20 games across both levels in his first year and has completed a full pre-season.
Some on this site get Redman and Morgan mixed up methinks
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Typical ******* Hawthorn...
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Typical ******* Hawthorn...
Yep. Glad he is staying. Now we just need to end the Drought.
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A little off topic they also picked up Daniel wells on a 3 year estimated 600k deal. Scratches head........
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They still want that no.2 pick back to select wines
Hmm, maybe I was mixing them up in my mind, but I thought Redman missed more games than that. I was thinking more mids/forwards, so Morgan wasn't really who I was thinking of.
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Priddis is 32, Mitchell (who has been around 5 minutes) is nearly 35.
Jetta, Masten, Redden, Shuey, Hutchings, Gaff, Yeo, Sheed, Duggan isn't really good enough. Really need at least one more mid of the quality of Shuey/Gaff or better.
Jetta, Masten, Redden, Shuey, Hutchings, Gaff, Yeo, Sheed, Duggan isn't really good enough. Really need at least one more mid of the quality of Shuey/Gaff or better.
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