Your Official 2017 WCF Thread - Do you prefer Patty-cakes or Cupcakes?

Discussion in 'Basketball' started by Son of Skeletor, May 14, 2017.

Put it out there
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What kind of hater are you?

Poll closed May 28, 2017.
  1. The kind that hates a swaggering, nut-kicking bunch without the decency to field a single Aussie

    14 vote(s)
    56.0%
  2. The kind that hates boring old teams who are immune from criticism

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. The kind that hates the Rockets, officials included

    3 vote(s)
    12.0%
  4. The kind who believes that automatically labeling anyone offering criticism as a 'hater' is lame

    8 vote(s)
    32.0%
  1. Son of Skeletor

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    Head to Head: Spurs lead series 2-1

    25/10/16: Spurs 129 @ Warriors 100
    11/3/17: Warriors 85 @ Spurs 107
    29/3/17: Warriors 100 @ Spurs 98


    What you need to know

    Let's face it, if you don't know everything there is to know about the Dubs and the Spurs by now then either you've been living under a rock, or Draymond recently kicked you in the head.

    The regular season between these two won't tell us much, especially given one of the games was the equivalent of a reserves match. The two teams have essentially split most of their recent games, but they haven't met in the playoff since 2013.

    Back then the old guard Spurs beat the nascent Warriors in a hard fought series. Given that names like Duncan, Diaw, Barnes, Bogut, Jack, Landry were prevalent then, that's about as far as we're going to analyse that series for now. It was that long ago that Tracy McGrady was still playing (remember that?) and Mark Jackson had coaching credibility.


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    Stats stuff

    * These are the two top rated defensive teams in the league... go figure.

    * The Spurs are a good rebounding team, the Dubs give up second chances most generously.

    * Both teams are elite when it comes to perimeter shooting, although the Dubs will fire more often.

    * Interestingly these are also the top two shot blocking teams in the league, despite neither boasting a supreme swatter (unless you count Javale)

    * Pace will be interesting in this series - the Warriors will want to play quicker.

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    Neither team really lives at the free throw line, pull ups and step backs will be the order of the day.


    Key areas

    Grumpy Old Men - given his long history with Steve Kerr, Pop has generally been on his best behaviour during Spurs/Dubs games - it has given games between these two an unusually friendly facade. With Mike Brown presumably on the Warriors bench however, Pop will be free to return to his usual irascible self. This can only be a good thing.



    Patty Thrills - the Spurs seemed to have good chemistry in the games in which Mills started against the Rockets, and his shooting seemed to give LMA in particular extra space to work in. If he can survive chasing Steph around a million screens, the starting job is his to lose.

    Break Glass in Emergency - it's fair to say the Warriors bench hasn't really been needed thus far during walkovers against Portland and Utah. They probably will in this series though - the good news is that the likes of Igoudala, West and Livingston have been here before.



    The Big Question

    Does Pau Gasol have a place in this series, or it time for Pop to release the Simmons?




    Although his performance against the Rockets was eye-catching, the reality is that Jonathan Simmons has been doing work all season. Facing a team with Klay Thompson and Andre Igoudala at the wings, he seems a natural to figure prominently.

    Gasol on the other hand... he might play opposite Zaza Pachulia, but beyond that it's tough to see where he fits here. If the Spurs want to mirror the Dubs, they'll likely have Aldridge on Draymond and let Kawhi and Durant battle it out at the nominal four spot.

    When it comes to reserve minutes, Lee vs West (battle of the exes) and McGee vs Dedmon seem the most likely match-ups, yet Gasol is still too productive to eschew completely. How and when Pop uses him will be fascinating.


    Prediction

    The Dubs have breezed through a shootout in round 1 and a mismatch of styles in round 2, while the Spurs have slugged it out against the ever-feisty Grizzlies and hyper-charged Rockets. There's a chance that the Dubs might be a little rusty, which means the Spurs should circle Game 1 as an opportunity.

    On the other hand the Warriors are rested and at near enough full strength against an opponent that having to adapt on the fly after losing their starting point guard. The Dubs are a tough nut to crack at the best of times without the added benefit of extra rest and better health.

    Unless Aldridge goes ham, it's tough to see the Spurs matching the Warriors for firepower over the course of a series. Just give 'em a good series, that's all we (and LeBron) ask Pop.


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  2. nahnah

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    Hello, i was invited here to troll. Go spurs Go
     
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    I'm really interested to see how the Spurs go tbh, surprise me as I'm doubtful they can win a game.
     
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    If Kerr is out then I don't like the Pop vs Brown match-up. It gives the Spurs life. It's like Curry isolating against Gobert. Not good.
     
  5. PP34

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    Coaching advantage or not, I don't see how the Spurs can get near matching the Warriors firepower offensively.

    Would take a miracle for them to even get this series to 6 I think.
     
  6. YippeeYiYeo

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    wow at Spurs 1st quarter.
     
  7. stewie griffen

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    Go Spurs Goooooooo
     
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    Dubs missing freebies too...
     
  10. YippeeYiYeo

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    22 point lead wow
     
  11. PP34

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    This is hilarious.

    They're playing shockingly bad defence too.
     

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  12. stewie griffen

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    I enjoy watching Draymond getting owned
     
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    Lol, thats a shit call
     
  14. stewie griffen

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    Next minute.... 14 point game
     
  15. PP34

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    It's nuts. Has there ever been a team like the Dubs where you don't feel they're out of it until they're down 40?

    You can only get 2 bucks odd from the bookies whenever they're down 20 or so.
     
  16. stewie griffen

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    Spurs need to get Aldridge more involved. Zaza is trash
     
  18. stewie griffen

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    Richmond....

    Oh wait :D
     
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    ffs manu stop playing dumb basketball
     
  21. YippeeYiYeo

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    yes Green. Back out to 19 at the half. Really hope Spurs win this
     
  22. stewie griffen

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    Cant help on that Steph... leaving Danny in the corner is sub optimal
     
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    Having that huge rest was always gonna be dangerous for the Dubs. Still would not surprise me when if they reel them in this next half
     
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    Mike Brown could be hanging from the Oracle rafters if they lose this series.

    I know exactly where the blame will go.
     
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    Just give the MVP to Leonard now.

    The guy is just killing it at each end.