Your Official Eastern Conference Playoffs Thread - MORE STAT PADIN. Vale Pacers, Bucks

Discussion in 'Basketball' started by Son of Skeletor, Apr 15, 2017.

Put it out there
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Which old-school showdown would pique your interest most?

Poll closed Apr 29, 2017.
  1. Trading insults like it was 2008-12 again - LeBron vs Celtics, the re-re-match

    9 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. Blowing in the wind - LeBron vs PG13, Lance and the Pacers

    5 vote(s)
    13.9%
  3. The Gilbert Arenas Memorial Shootout- Cavs vs Wizards

    4 vote(s)
    11.1%
  4. The Good Guys dress in Black - Celtics/Wizards, Round III

    1 vote(s)
    2.8%
  5. The Jimmy Butler Superstar Cup - Celtics vs Bulls ft. Primetime Pricey

    7 vote(s)
    19.4%
  6. None - I'm mainly here to laugh at the Eastern Conference

    10 vote(s)
    27.8%
  1. Son of Skeletor

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    Your Eastern Conference Playoff Class of 2017 - no beasts allowed.


    1. Boston Celtics vs. 8. Chicago Bulls

    2. Cleveland Cavaliers vs. 7. Indiana Pacers

    3. Toronto Raptors vs. 6. Milwaukee Bucks

    4. Washington Wizards vs. 5. Atlanta Hawks
     
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  2. Son of Skeletor

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    By the numbers


    Record: Celtics 53-29 (4th), Bulls 41-41 (16th)

    Off Rating: Celtics 111.1 (8th), Bulls 107.4 (20th)

    Def Rating: Celtics 108.4 (13th), Bulls 107.0 (6th)

    Pace: Celtics 96.8 (13th), Bulls 95.3 (20th)


    FG%: Celtics 45.4% (16th), Bulls 44.4% (25th)
    3Pt%: Celtics 35.9% (14th), Bulls 34.0% (24th)
    2Pt%: Celtics 51.5% (8th), Bulls 47.9% (29th)
    EFG%: Celtics 52.5% (9th), Bulls 48.7% (30th)
    Assists: Celtics 25.2 (4th), Bulls 22.6 (14th)
    T/O%: Celtics 12.2 (9th), Bulls 12.2 (10th)
    OReb%: Celtics 21.2 (25th), Bulls 27.0 (4th)

    DFG%: Celtics 45.0% (9th), Bulls 45.6% (14th)
    D3Pt%: Celtics 33.2% (2nd), Bulls 34.4% (6th)
    D2Pt%: Celtics 50.5% (19th), Bulls 50.3% (15th)
    DEFG%: Celtics 50.3% (5th), Bulls 50.7% (10th)
    DefT/O%: Celtics 12.6% (17th), Bulls 12.4% (20th)
    DReb%: Celtics 75.4% (27th), Bulls 76.8% (12th)


    Head to Head

    Series tied 2-2

    27/10/16: Celtics 99 @ Bulls 105
    2/11/16: Bulls 100 @ Celtics 107
    16/2/17: Celtics 103 @ Bulls 104
    12/3/17: Bulls 80 @ Celtics 100


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    And now please welcome your favourite professional and completely impartial poster, stewie griffen , as he goes deep for a closer look... for the second time this week after his controversial rendezvous with Pricey's mum on Tuesday.


     
  3. Son of Skeletor

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    By the numbers

    Record: Cavaliers 51-31 (t.5th), Pacers 42-40 (14th)

    Off Rating: Cavaliers 113.6 (3rd), Pacers 108.6 (15th)

    Def Rating: Cavaliers 110.3 (21st), Pacers 108.8 (16th)

    Pace: Cavaliers 96.2 (15th), Pacers 95.9 (18th)


    FG%: Cavaliers 47.0% (5th), Pacers 46.5% (10th)
    3pt%: Cavaliers 38.4% (2nd), Pacers 37.6% (4th)
    2Pt%: Cavaliers 52.8% (3rd), Pacers 49.8% (17th)
    eFG%: Cavaliers 54.7% (2nd), Pacers 51.6% (13th)
    Assists: Cavaliers 22.7 (13th), Pacers 22.5 (16th)
    T/O%: Cavaliers 12.6% (14th), Pacers 12.7% (16th)
    OReb%: Cavaliers 22.0% (20th), Pacers 21.2% (24th)

    DFG%: Cavaliers 45.8% (16th), Pacers 45.1% (10th)
    D3pt%: Cavaliers 36.1% (18th), Pacers 35.5% (13th)
    D2Pt%: Cavaliers 50.4% (17th), Pacers 50.1% (12th)
    DeFG%: Cavaliers 51.6% (18th), Pacers 51.2% (15th)
    DefT/O%: Cavaliers 11.4% (29th), Pacers 13.6% (6th)
    DReb%: Cavaliers 75.8% (21st), Pacers 75.4% (25th)


    Head to Head

    Cavaliers lead series 3-1

    16/11/16: Cavaliers 93 @ Pacers 103
    8/2/17: Cavaliers 132 @ Pacers 117
    15/2/17: Pacers 104 @ Cavaliers 113
    2/4/17: Pacers 130 @ Cavaliers 135


    Screw the numbers, give me words

    Clevleland is an elite offensive team, Indy is average. Cleveland is a crappy defensive team, Indy is average (those three words suffice for Indy, period).

    Both teams shoot the ball pretty well, especially from range. On the other hand these are two of the poorer rebounding teams in the league as well.

    One difference to note is in the ability to force turnovers, where Indy excels and the Cavs don't: usually teams that excel in this stat might figure to perform poorly on the defensive boards because they rely on quickness and trapping (and Indy duly do perform poorly on the defensive boards). Cleveland on the other hand, and more surprisingly given their personnel, are also below average on the defensive boards.

    What this means is that the Cavs have not only relied on outscoring their opposition to win games, but more specifically outshooting them - they certainly don't win games by creating extra possessions on the boards or in the passing lanes.

    It's almost unfathomable that a team featuring a starting frontline of Thompson, Love and LeBron can be so bad at rebounding, as between them the trio average almost 30rpg. This is one area where the Cavs' supporting cast can be called into question as a weakness to expose - Frye, Jefferson, Korver and the two D. Williamses might give the Cavs adequate shooting and spacing, but they aren't going to get after it defensively or on the boards.

    However Indy's frontline of Turner and Thad Young while talented enough is decidedly lightweight - the Cavs need to punish the Pacers on the offensive boards, much in the same manner as they did against the Dubs in the Finals. Indy for their part will try to use their edge in quickness to expose Cleveland defensively.


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    The big question: will Indy faze out Monta Ellis in favour of prodigal son Lance Stephenson?

    At this point Lance gives you everything Monta does - a secondary playmaker with suspect outside shooting - only with better defence and more rebounding.

    So yes, unless Lance goes too insane. What a world it is when Monta can claim to 'have it all' when it comes to claiming the edge in sanity.


    Prediction: SloaneysDanger to have an aneurysm within 5 minutes. Cavs to win this within 5 games.
     
  4. SloaneysDanger

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    Hahahahaha.

    Cavs 4-0 piece of piss. LET'S HAVE 'EM.
     
  5. Son of Skeletor

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    By the numbers

    Record: Raptors 51-31 (t. 5th), Bucks 42-40 (13th)

    Off Rating: Raptors 112.3 (6th), Bucks 109.1 (13th)

    Def Rating: Raptors 107.8 (11th), Bucks 109.3 (19th)

    Pace: Raptors 94.7 (24th), Bucks 94.5 (26th)


    FG%: Raptors 46.4% (11th), Bucks 47.4% (4th)
    3Pt%: Raptors 36.3% (13th), Bucks 37.0% (10th)
    2Pt%: Raptors 50.5% (12th), Bucks 51.7% (6th)
    eFG%: Raptors 51.7 (12th), Bucks 52.8% (7th)
    Assists: Raptors 18.5 (30th), Bucks 24.2 (5th)
    T/O%: Raptors 11.8% (5th), Bucks 13.2% (21st)
    OReb%: Raptors 25.0% (8th), Bucks 21.5% (23rd)

    DFG%: Raptors 44.9% (6th), Bucks 45.8% (17th)
    D3pt%: Raptors 35.4% (12th), Bucks 35.4% (10th)
    D2pt%: Raptors 49.5% (8th), Bucks 51.2% (24th)
    DeFG%: Raptors 50.7% (9th), Bucks 51.8% (20th)
    DefT/O%: Raptors 13.5% (7th), Bucks 13.6% (5th)
    DReb%: Raptors 76.3% (17th), Bucks 75.4% (26th)


    Head to Head

    Raptors lead series 3-1

    25/11/16: Raptors 105 @ Bucks 99
    12/12/16: Bucks 100 @ Raptors 122
    27/1/17: Bucks 86 @ Raptors 102
    4/3/17: Raptors 94 @ Bucks 101


    Screw the numbers, give me words

    At first blush the numbers are not at all what perception might dictate.

    The Bucks - not the Raptors - are the team that shoots best and shares the ball most. At the other end of the court the long and rangy Bucks rate lower than the formerly lacklustre Raptors right across the board.

    Toronto play a very deliberate style of offence, featuring a very low number of assists and a correspondingly low turnover percentage. It looks something like this;

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    The Bucks have done a very decent job squeezing every last ounce of efficiency out of their unorthodox roster, jumping from 26th to 13th in offence this season. While Giannis gets the lion's share of the plaudits, much credit must go to rookie guard Malcolm Brogdon who has outperformed expensive signing Dellavedova (sorry djrossie ) at both ends of the court.

    Defensively, the Raptors have reaped the benefit of their investment in defensively-sound role players - think Carroll, Joseph, Ibaka & PJ Tucker. This is where the improvement is expected to come from after some of Toronto's flaky playoff play in previous years.

    The bad news for the Bucks is that while their offence has improved, their defence has regressed from elite to below average. They still wreak havoc when switching and playing the passing lanes, but they struggle in the paint. Despite all that length they don't deter paint points and they struggle on the boards.


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    The big question: Will the Greek Freak's unique game translate well into the playoffs?

    He's enjoyed an incredible season, finishing in the top 20 in points, rebounds, assists, steals AND blocks. Yet it's undeniable that he's still most devastating in transition, where his athleticism is on show and his suspect jump shot is not an issue.

    The way that Toronto plays however is not conducive to getting out in transition, so Antetokounmpo is going to have to find a way of enforcing his will in the half court, particularly if the Raptors shoot reasonably.


    Prediction: We will get countless pointless headshots of Drake on the sidelines. Global ambassadors ftw.

    I don't see the Bucks having the firepower to expose Toronto's annual playoff butterflies, although you never know with the Raps - Drakes in six.
     
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    Cavs wizards will always be my favourite retro playoff series (Soulja boy kill em) but I am just going to sit back and watch the celtics and bulls fans go at it.
     
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    LeBron playing his 200th career playoff game. Hard to believe that at 32 he's played 20+ more than MJ (probably 40+ by the end of the post season).
     
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    Very good pg13 to shoot like his next LA contract depends on it. Show magic johnson exactly how much the max payment is worth. And Miles Turner having a big impact actually getting it done inside and dominating an undersized but husstle happy thompson. Pacers to get 1-2 games and keep exploiting the cavaliers poor defence!. Not enough fire power to win series but 6 is possible and more lance time !
     
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    Playoff defense yet to start...
     
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    It never does with Cleveland.
     
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    Imagine if the Cavs could play defense as well...
     

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    We're shooting better from the field than the free throw line lol
     
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    Charles Barkley agrees with every call that goes against the Cavs.
     
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    So do I :D
     
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    I'm shocked.
     
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    Lance is so fun.
     
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    Lol Stephenson calm down and check yourself and remember you're not that good.
     
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    LeBron is so good.
     
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    Cavs really don't want to lose this one. Last thing they need after how they finished the season.
     
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    Indy have really screwed themselves with poor execution in the last 2 minutes.

    PG, Teague and Lance all went one-on-one - you want better shots than that.
     
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    Irving with a couple of huge steals.
     
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    That's a bad shot mang.
     
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    Wow. Terrible final play Indy.
     
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    I swear to god this Cavs team does my head in.