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Your Preferred Grand Final Matchup and Premier

Your prefer grand final matchup and premier (pick one matchup and one team)shi

  • Geelong vs Brisbane

    Votes: 52 31.9%
  • Geelong vs Collingwood

    Votes: 34 20.9%
  • Collingwood vs Hawthorn

    Votes: 35 21.5%
  • Brisbane vs Hawthorn

    Votes: 34 20.9%
  • Brisbane

    Votes: 54 33.1%
  • Collingwood

    Votes: 22 13.5%
  • Geelong

    Votes: 29 17.8%
  • Hawthorn

    Votes: 19 11.7%

  • Total voters
    163

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Collingwood v Hawthorn is mine.

With a Collingwood win by say 26 points.

After a tight start Pies become better as the game wears on and shift into gear just after half time.

Be close early on trading barbs.

Same as the prelim pies and lions.

Weather the storm early on the pies are the best at it.

Once weathered they go on a spree.

Got Pies winning their prelim in same circumstances.

Lions will come hard for the Pies.

Even kick the first 3 goals.

Pies then respond with goals of themseleves.

then its all on the Pies terms from then on in

Expect the same if its Collingwood v geelong as well.

Pies weather it well.
 
Even though I'm involved, I still barrack for justice.

Brisbane already lost a final, so they can bugger off. Hawthorn finished 8th, so they can bugger off.

Collingwood v Geelong = two most consistently good teams.

Collingwood have lost 5 of their past 7 games.
 

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Lions v whoever, not fussed.

Least preferred is Cats v Pies because we’ve already had that match up before.

The other three possibilities have never happened.

If I had to pick an order:

1. Hawks v Lions
2. Cats v Lions
3. Hawks v Pies
4. Cats v Pies

Don’t mind any of these matchups. Even Cats v Pies should at least be a close game.
 
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Meanwhile, Adelaide have won 9 of their past 11 games.

Numbers can be fun, can't they?

I clarified my comment. Somebody said Geelong vs Collingwood was the best match up because they are the most consistent teams in it.

I simply stated that the Pies have lost 5 of their past 7 games.

I don't think that qualifies them as being the most consistent, especially considering Hawthorn is 10-3 in the since losing to Collingwood in round 12, with the 3 losses coming against other finalists and all by less than 3 goals.
 
So there's 3 dynasty clubs still in it, the other usually win their GF's throughout their history without the best lists in it (apart from the 4 peat and the 2010 team - which shoulda woulda coulda have also been a dynasty team).

So this is a nightmare realization for any neutral fan, it's either another win for a dynasty club or Collingwood winning it, who are THE most hated club in the history of the comp.

As a Pie fan I hold no fear of any of the other 3, given we certainly don't have the same list potential based purely on talent, what we do have is list balance and depth. If we win we'll win it by system like we did when we won in 2023, certainly not the list potential of the runner up that year.

I'd like to see a Pies v Hawks game given they've never played off in a GF, and given the fact that our form is way better than the last time played (but still not to potential).

System beats talent is what I'm hoping for, coz if it's the other way around we may as well just pack it up and go home.
 
Judging by the Meredith/Stevic prelim umpiring pattern I have noticed, Friday nights winner should win the Grand Final. Most times if you have Meredith in the prelim, you win the Grand Final. Huge coincidence but I am supersticious.
That is the most ridiculous pattern. Stats since 2011...

  • Stevic has umpired on the penultimate weekend in each of the last nine years. Only once (Rich 2020) did the winner of his umpired prelim go on to the win the flag.
  • In six of the last nine years when Stevic and Meredith umpired different preliminary finals, the winning team that Meredith umpired went on to win the flag.
  • The team that Meredith umpired in the prelim has gone on to win seven of the last nine premierships (2019, 2022 exceptions)
  • Stevic and Meredith have both umpired on the penultimate weekend since 2011. Meredith's record for prelim winning teams going on to win the premiership is 8-6, Stevic's is 5-9
  • When they have both umpired the same prelim together, the winning team's record the following week is 2-3
 
So there's 3 dynasty clubs still in it, the other usually win their GF's throughout their history without the best lists in it (apart from the 4 peat and the 2010 team - which shoulda woulda coulda have also been a dynasty team).

So this is a nightmare realization for any neutral fan, it's either another win for a dynasty club or Collingwood winning it, who are THE most hated club in the history of the comp.

As a Pie fan I hold no fear of any of the other 3, given we certainly don't have the same list potential based purely on talent, what we do have is list balance and depth. If we win we'll win it by system like we did when we won in 2023, certainly not the list potential of the runner up that year.

I'd like to see a Pies v Hawks game given they've never played off in a GF, and given the fact that our form is way better than the last time played (but still not to potential).

System beats talent is what I'm hoping for, coz if it's the other way around we may as well just pack it up and go home.
Any of the 4 should feel they can beat anyone of the other 3. Every side has beaten the other 3 or at least come close. By most metrics this is the most event top 4 we've had in awhile, I think.

So yes, while it worst last 4 in terms of the sides (I was hoping for a non Vic GF) I hope it is at least close. We've had a pretty boring final series except for the 2 elimination finals, I hope we get at least one or two more sensational matches to finish.
 
So there's 3 dynasty clubs still in it,
They are no more 'dynasty clubs' than Richmond now is. Winning three flags in the distant past, doesn't make you a dynasty club - it might make you a club that had a Dynasty in the past but that's about it. All four clubs have all had a great deal of recent success which does make it difficult for a neutral supporter to go for any underdog, but this is the league the AFL has created atm.

Despite winning last year, Brisbane are the only team I can stomach winning the flag this year for the above reasons
 

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They are no more 'dynasty clubs' than Richmond now is. Winning three flags in the distant past, doesn't make you a dynasty club - it might make you a club that had a Dynasty in the past but that's about it. All four clubs have all had a great deal of recent success which does make it difficult for a neutral supporter to go for any underdog, but this is the league the AFL has created atm.

Despite winning last year, Brisbane are the only team I can stomach winning the flag this year for the above reasons
Meh, semantics.

Call it what you will, but 3 of the last 4 have had dynaties, I didn't say they're dynasty clubs now.

Looks like you agree from a neutral perspective, if it was anyone bar Collingwood (bar your mob and the other two of the big 4) then there'd be something for neutrals to barrack for.
 
Very hard to decide who to go for, they're all great fairytale stories, four teams starved of success. It's crazy to think there are over 200,000 Australians who have never seen a Brisbane flag in their lifetime

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