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JG22

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What do neutrals realistically think of this? I mean I don’t want to see the guy miss round one, I don’t have anything against him but isn’t it kinda blatant?
Jumps off the ground, makes direct contact to the head leaving the player dazed. Do we continue with this clearly broken system of basing things purely off injury reports.
 

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What do neutrals realistically think of this? I mean I don’t want to see the guy miss round one, I don’t have anything against him but isn’t it kinda blatant?
Jumps off the ground, makes direct contact to the head leaving the player dazed. Do we continue with this clearly broken system of basing things purely off injury reports.
not in an Essendon jumper 0 weeks
 

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Lip Gallagher

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Hard to tell with only the one angle, looks like he got him with his shoulder, if the player was hurt he's in trouble, not much in it IMO.
 

Lip Gallagher

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What do neutrals realistically think of this? I mean I don’t want to see the guy miss round one, I don’t have anything against him but isn’t it kinda blatant?
Jumps off the ground, makes direct contact to the head leaving the player dazed. Do we continue with this clearly broken system of basing things purely off injury reports.
I don't think leaving the ground means much in way of intent, he could've ironed him out if he wanted, chook lotto time.
 

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Chose to bump, late, left the ground, seemed to contact the head (other angles required), hard enough to put him to ground.

It'll certainly get looked at.

What chooklotto's interpretation is this year (OK, week) is anyone's guess, but previous years, if he did indeed make high contact, you'd expect weeks.
 

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If that’s the only angle he might be alright, the guy shot straight back up.

If he gets done for head contact he’ll cop anywhere between 3 weeks and a Young Australian Winemaker of the Year award and an upgrade to the leadership group, based on how the MRO are rolling the dice this week.
 

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Gooooooooooooooorrrrrrnnnnnn....There were plenty of angles, clear elbow to the head. He's in trouble, weeks expected. Ben Long got 3 weeks... let's see what this gets. Ball was gone, chose to bump, left the ground, hit the head, head rocked back, player stumbled... terrible look for the AFL.
This 2nd clip is a shocker....


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Malifice

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I'm not seeing a raised elbow. The elbow looked mostly tucked in, and it seemed like the shoulder clocked him.

If that's the case, it's the usual Rough conduct charge (the default charge not involving a clear strike). It should be graded as Careless and High contact. Only thing left to decide is impact.

The player clocked got up immediately and played on, so as long as there is no adverse medical report, or we find out later on his jaw is broken, or he develops signs of concussion over the weekend, it should be graded as Low impact (meaning a fine).

If it's Medium impact, its a week.

If it was a raised elbow, it'll be a charge of Striking instead. In that case (Strike with a raised elbow) it'll be at least a week, even if the impact is graded as low, but I'd be challenging a striking charge in a heartbeat if I was Carlton. I just cant see the elbow raised.
 

Malifice

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Gooooooooooooooorrrrrrnnnnnn....There were plenty of angles, clear elbow to the head. He's in trouble, weeks expected. Ben Long got 3 weeks... let's see what this gets. Ball was gone, chose to bump, left the ground, hit the head, head rocked back, player stumbled... terrible look for the AFL.
This 2nd clip is a shocker....


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Im not seeing the raised elbow (needed for a 'striking' charge). It looks to me like the elbow is tucked in and the shoulder gets him (the far more common charge of 'rough conduct').

I'm going with a charge of Rough conduct, with careless conduct, high contact and (at this stage) low impact.
 

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