Moved Thread Zac Williams bump

[JG22]

What do neutrals realistically think of this? I mean I don’t want to see the guy miss round one, I don’t have anything against him but isn’t it kinda blatant?

Jumps off the ground, makes direct contact to the head leaving the player dazed. Do we continue with this clearly broken system of basing things purely off injury reports.

 

[11kgm]

What do neutrals realistically think of this? I mean I don’t want to see the guy miss round one, I don’t have anything against him but isn’t it kinda blatant?

Jumps off the ground, makes direct contact to the head leaving the player dazed. Do we continue with this clearly broken system of basing things purely off injury reports.

not in an Essendon jumper 0 weeks

 

[Chuckie357]

Can’t even see what happened, obviously he didn’t hear the umpire yell Stand

 

[Lip Gallagher]

Hard to tell with only the one angle, looks like he got him with his shoulder, if the player was hurt he's in trouble, not much in it IMO.

 

[Lip Gallagher]

What do neutrals realistically think of this? I mean I don’t want to see the guy miss round one, I don’t have anything against him but isn’t it kinda blatant?

Jumps off the ground, makes direct contact to the head leaving the player dazed. Do we continue with this clearly broken system of basing things purely off injury reports.

I don't think leaving the ground means much in way of intent, he could've ironed him out if he wanted, chook lotto time.

 

[HollyValentine]

It’s not a clear angle but if he did get him in the head it’s probably worth a week.

 

[telsor]

Chose to bump, late, left the ground, seemed to contact the head (other angles required), hard enough to put him to ground.

It'll certainly get looked at.

What chooklotto's interpretation is this year (OK, week) is anyone's guess, but previous years, if he did indeed make high contact, you'd expect weeks.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Should be a week if they are consistent. So it’ll be $1500.

 

[Jugada]

Clear as day suspension on that angle

 

[kozi]

Worth a week.

Could range anywhere between a $1500 fine and 3 weeks depending on which way the wind is blowing.

 

[Altum Volantes]

If that’s the only angle he might be alright, the guy shot straight back up.

If he gets done for head contact he’ll cop anywhere between 3 weeks and a Young Australian Winemaker of the Year award and an upgrade to the leadership group, based on how the MRO are rolling the dice this week.

 

[Munga]

Gooooooooooooooorrrrrrnnnnnn....There were plenty of angles, clear elbow to the head. He's in trouble, weeks expected. Ben Long

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Ben Long

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26

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186cm

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81kg

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10.9

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6.2

2star

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4.7

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.7

4star

MG

166.8

3star

D

12.8

3star

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6.7

3star

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6.2

4star

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3.3

3star

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2.3

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129.0

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13.4

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6.8

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6.6

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3.2

4star

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3.2

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223.0

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got 3 weeks... let's see what this gets. Ball was gone, chose to bump, left the ground, hit the head, head rocked back, player stumbled... terrible look for the AFL.
This 2nd clip is a shocker....

 

[Lip Gallagher]

Clear as day suspension on that angle

I would rather sanction the man with the ball, "harden the * up" it's coming to a point where every person on the field will be reported.

 

[Do the Dew]

1-2 weeks without a doubt. As others have said, jumped, late, got him in the head.

 

[Jugada]

I would rather sanction the man with the ball, "harden the fu** up" it's coming to a point where every person on the field will be reported.

Um nah I'm happy to keep reporting the blokes who clip others in the head

 

[BallaratBulldog]

Why do players always jump to bump? Garentee to get them high.

 

[Do the Dew]

Why do players always jump to bump? Garentee to get them high.

Cause they dumb.

 

[Malifice]

I'm not seeing a raised elbow. The elbow looked mostly tucked in, and it seemed like the shoulder clocked him.

If that's the case, it's the usual Rough conduct charge (the default charge not involving a clear strike). It should be graded as Careless and High contact. Only thing left to decide is impact.

The player clocked got up immediately and played on, so as long as there is no adverse medical report, or we find out later on his jaw is broken, or he develops signs of concussion over the weekend, it should be graded as Low impact (meaning a fine).

If it's Medium impact, its a week.

If it was a raised elbow, it'll be a charge of Striking instead. In that case (Strike with a raised elbow) it'll be at least a week, even if the impact is graded as low, but I'd be challenging a striking charge in a heartbeat if I was Carlton. I just cant see the elbow raised.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

I will wait until our ever gracious, highly educated journalists tell me how I should feel

 

[Malifice]

Gooooooooooooooorrrrrrnnnnnn....There were plenty of angles, clear elbow to the head. He's in trouble, weeks expected. Ben Long got 3 weeks... let's see what this gets. Ball was gone, chose to bump, left the ground, hit the head, head rocked back, player stumbled... terrible look for the AFL.
This 2nd clip is a shocker....


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Im not seeing the raised elbow (needed for a 'striking' charge). It looks to me like the elbow is tucked in and the shoulder gets him (the far more common charge of 'rough conduct').

I'm going with a charge of Rough conduct, with careless conduct, high contact and (at this stage) low impact.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

It will be leaving the ground to make contact that will do him over. Leaving the ground to bump is something the AFL frown upon.

 

[lewdogs]

They set the precedent with the Long suspension last year when MacRae wasn't injured, he'll get a week.

 

[captain blood 17]

I think he gets a fine.

 

[RichLeMonde]

I think he deserves 2 weeks. CTE is no joke

 

[HairyO]

Jumping high for a bump should never be graded careless. But it will be.

It should also automatically trigger the potential to do serious injury increase in severity. But it wont.