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Realtrublu said:
Gibbs is under contract.No low offers have been made to him. I have read the club's statement about Gibbs. It is very brief. Which of the few lines in it should I read between to decipher the hidden meaning revealed to you?!!!
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Sorry I meant to add Touhy to the low ball contract offers not Gibbs.

In the statement they didn't exactly say Gibbs was a required player did they?
 
Realtrublu said:
Gibbs is under contract with three years to run. End of story. He should be held to his contract unless Adelaide pays overs. If he is let go for a return that supporters consider inadequate the Club will suffer. Supporters will drop off. Also the talk about him wanting to go home should be dismissed for the nonsense it is. Home is a 50 minute play ride away ffs. That excuse is pure tosh.

As for Tuohy he should reward the club for giving him a career. He is also a very valuable, injury free player. If Geelong want him they should pay overs as well.
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Neither deal is done so i'll wait and see how these deals pan out. no need for the premature hissy fit.

Loyalty in sports is a one way street unfortunately. Boomer was loyal to the Roos his whole career and look how he ended up. if Tuohy can get a bigger contract that he feels reflects his worth then he would be dumb not to take it.

Finally you seem to have missed another point. The desire of both players to leave reflects poorly on the coach.
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how do we know their wanting to leave has anything to do with Bolton?

I have followed Carlton for a long time. I am not accustomed to them being losers!
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you've had 15 years, how much more time do you need?
 
Realtrublu said:
Gibbs is under contract with three years to run. End of story. He should be held to his contract unless Adelaide pays overs. If he is let go for a return that supporters consider inadequate the Club will suffer. Supporters will drop off. Also the talk about him wanting to go home should be dismissed for the nonsense it is. Home is a 50 minute play ride away ffs. That excuse is pure tosh.

As for Tuohy he should reward the club for giving him a career. He is also a very valuable, injury free player. If Geelong want him they should pay overs as well.

Finally you seem to have missed another point. The desire of both players to leave reflects poorly on the coach.

I have followed Carlton for a long time. I am not accustomed to them being losers!
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What rot,.the players don't really owe the club anything and vice versa.

Also we've won four spoons in 15 years, its been a long time since we've been winners.

Its a bit nuffy to assume its Bolton's fault for both players quitting, geez louise
 

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Realtrublu said:
Gibbs is under contract with three years to run. End of story. He should be held to his contract unless Adelaide pays overs. If he is let go for a return that supporters consider inadequate the Club will suffer. Supporters will drop off. Also the talk about him wanting to go home should be dismissed for the nonsense it is. Home is a 50 minute play ride away ffs. That excuse is pure tosh.

As for Tuohy he should reward the club for giving him a career. He is also a very valuable, injury free player. If Geelong want him they should pay overs as well.

Finally you seem to have missed another point. The desire of both players to leave reflects poorly on the coach.

I have followed Carlton for a long time. I am not accustomed to them being losers!
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Care to explain.
 
Realtrublu said:
Finally you seem to have missed another point. The desire of both players to leave reflects poorly on the coach.

I have followed Carlton for a long time. I am not accustomed to them being losers!
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Not really... Gibbs is leaving because he wants a flag and to go back to Adelaide (for inexplicable reasons). Tuohy is leaving because we pretty much offered him a sack of potatoes as a contract and (although he's Irish) has decided he's better off elsewhere.
 
Das2Blue said:
have not really seen any teams jumping out of trees to get Motlop , but yeah would take late first off their hands if they get one
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Ok, but would you accept a straight swap, Tuohy for Motlop.? ( IMO, have about the same ability, and currency). We haven't had any excitement in our forward line since Eddie & Jeff left.:p:D
 
DaVillaBlues said:
Sorry i don't rate Guthrie, much happier with a 2017 first rounder or a 2nd rounder and KolaJazzKnee (sorry about the spelling)
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I'm genuinely worried you only read the previous 5 posts in a thread when you comment. Geelong can't trade a future first round pick this year without first acquiring a first round pick.
 
Club statement - Tuohy

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2016-10-10/club-statement-zach-tuohy

Out-of-contract Carlton defender Zach Tuohy has informed the Club that he would like to seek a trade and nominated Geelong as his preferred club.

“The Club had offered Zach a three-year deal and he has chosen to explore his options. We remain committed to adhering to our list management plan and the offer was in line with that strategy,” Head of Football Andrew McKay said.
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coopss said:
Not really... Gibbs is leaving because he wants a flag and to go back to Adelaide (for inexplicable reasons). Tuohy is leaving because we pretty much offered him a sack of potatoes as a contract and (although he's Irish) has decided he's better off elsewhere.
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We offered Tuohy a 3 year contract. I though that the money offer was okay. Why do you describe it as "a sack of potatoes"?

As for Carlton having a poor 15 years. It is bound to continue if all our top players want to go elsewhere-:(
 

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Aphrodite said:
Club statement - Tuohy

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2016-10-10/club-statement-zach-tuohy
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Ok. I am prepared to entertain the possibility of the club wanting to let Tuohy go. I think it is unwise. He has played very well without injury since early 2013!!!

As I type I am listening to Sam Maclure on 3AW. He says that Carlton want to retain Gibbs and that they hope to persuade him to stay. Apparently he is happy at Carlton but that bloody wife wants to be near her Mum because the baby is one year old. What a bogan! Why marry a Melbourne based footballer if your main ambition in life is to have kids and live in dreary Adelaide? Pity Bryce didn't trade up by getting a smart Melbourne girl.

Derwayne and Scoop think Carlton should play hard ball. Scoop says that pick 13 is not enough and that McGovern should be included.

The Board should step in and forbid a trade that is less than overs. It will not be good for the Club and its supporters for it to be done over by Adelaide again!
 
Realtrublu said:
We offered Tuohy a 3 year contract. I though that the money offer was okay. Why do you describe it as "a sack of potatoes"?

As for Carlton having a poor 15 years. It is bound to continue if all our top players want to go elsewhere-:(
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Do you know how much we were offering? Trigg described it as "very healthy" (he's not gonna go on radio and say otherwise) but I would say that it was substantially less than other clubs.
 

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Blue Dangerfield said:
Talk is Cats are into Deleideo. How will they afford both? Would we consider Vardy?
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Excuse the intrusion. I find it increasingly difficult to see how we will get both without losing Motlop. That's just my personal view, however...

It's been floated on our board that with the potential loss of both Vardy and Kersten, that the former will be part of a trade with Richmond coupled with our future second round pick.

The latter - Kersten - has been heavily linked to Fremantle and that we expect their third round pick #41 for him. #41 and a player like Horlin-Smith to the GC for their second round pick (mid-20s) which we'd on-trade to you for Tuohy.

Of course, while this is theoretically possible, I'm not sure that it would fall together that nicely. Having said that, I didn't think our trade period last year would fall that nicely, either.
 
The Unforgiven said:
Excuse the intrusion. I find it increasingly difficult to see how we will get both without losing Motlop. That's just my personal view, however...

It's been floated on our board that with the potential loss of both Vardy and Kersten, that the former will be part of a trade with Richmond coupled with our future second round pick.

The latter - Kersten - has been heavily linked to Fremantle and that we expect their third round pick #41 for him. #41 and a player like Horlin-Smith to the GC for their second round pick (mid-20s) which we'd on-trade to you for Tuohy.

Of course, while this is theoretically possible, I'm not sure that it would fall together that nicely. Having said that, I didn't think our trade period last year would fall that nicely, either.
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Tuohys a gun and youll be glad youve got him.

If you can conjure up a pick under 25, he's all yours.
 
Do not want Motlop. His salary is (rumoured to be) way too high for what he brings to a team, and he'd be lucky to kick 25 goals next year in our forward line.

I love Tuohy but he's replaceable. We have a plethora of tall defenders, and Simpson and Doc for the smalls right now. Confident that Bolts can train up another hard nut small defender from a late or rookie pick. Same goes for our small forwards.

What we need right now are solid B grade mids to take the heat off Cripps and Murphy. If we can't get one of those (and I can't think of anyone at Geelong who fits that AND who they'd be willing to trade), then I'd much rather a draft pick, either this year or next.
 

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