Uncontracted Zak Jones

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#51
That’s a lot of cap retiring. But I was referring to this:
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It hurts. And will have a massive impact on how you do your business right now. There will be casualties.
Casualties are already off the list - Tom Mitchell, Gary Rohan, Dan Hanneberry.

Hanneberry and Rohan's salaries would have rolled up to Buddy this year already, with Tippett coming off the cap a share of the 2020/21/22 Buddy's pay could be brought forward.

Also need to factor in the players CBA changing for 2017 to 22 by an additional $2M. Swans have managed this well.
 

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Casualties are already off the list - Tom Mitchell, Gary Rohan, Dan Hanneberry.

Hanneberry and Rohan's salaries would have rolled up to Buddy this year already, with Tippett coming off the cap a share of the 2020/21/22 Buddy's pay could be brought forward.

Also need to factor in the players CBA changing for 2017 to 22 by an additional $2M. Swans have managed this well.
Can't imagine Rohan's salary being much.

But yeah, sounds like they're well prepared for it.
 

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Pass for me. So much of the game is won and lost on turnovers and counterattacking. He's got genuine speed, but his value is limited if he does an exciting burst from a stoppage but puts it down the throat of an opposition player. Besides, with Kennedy and Parker seemingly on the decline (maybe Parker is just out of form because he isn't that old), the value of Jones to Sydney would likely exceed what his actual market value is.
 

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Interesting. You obviously know more about the detail around your list management than I would.

Do you apportion Mitchell leaving due to the squeeze? Or did Horse simply not rate him enough to pay the coin he wanted?
Yeah the latter, not so much the coin, as we signed other players up to bigger longer term contracts at the time and I think Tom was embitterred at Longmire's treatment of him and fair enough too. I remember calling out to Tom in 2016 GF parade to not leave us and he gave me an absolutely filthy look, I thought he was gone at that stage. I think he just had enough.
 
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#56
That’s a lot of cap retiring. But I was referring to this:
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It hurts. And will have a massive impact on how you do your business right now. There will be casualties.
Dusty is on similar $'s to Buddy and they've just managed to recruit Lynch at $800k per year (and I don't think Rance, Cotchin and Reiwoldt play for free).

Your own team has been adding multiple $500 - $800k recruits in the same off season over the last few years (Mitchell $700k, OMeara $800k, Scully $500k, Wingard $650k)

Did the AFL over compensate and reduce the Swans salary cap by 10%?
 
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Dusty is on similar $'s to Buddy and they've just managed to recruit Lynch at $800k per year (and I don't think Rance, Cotchin and Reiwoldt play for free).

Your own team has been adding multiple $500 - $800k recruits in the same off season over the last few years (Mitchell $700k, OMeara $800k, Scully $500k, Wingard $650k)

Did the AFL over compensate and reduce the Swans salary cap by 10%?
Not bad guessing there though Mitchell was happy to take 550k per year, not 700k. Big upgrade on the 900k 5 year deal from Sydney (180k per year) on offer though.
 
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Not bad guessing there though Mitchell was happy to take 550k per year, not 700k. Big upgrade on the 900k 5 year deal from Sydney (180k per year) on offer though.
I'd be astounded if Mitchell is on $550k per year, even before the Brownlow his $ value was far above that*, particularly given the Blues were offering him big money to move

*I realise our club lowballed him, but I'm pretty sure we were offering more than $180k per year on a long term deal
 
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I'd be astounded if Mitchell is on $550k per year, even before the Brownlow his $ value was far above that*, particularly given the Blues were offering him big money to move

*I realise our club lowballed him, but I'm pretty sure we were offering more than $180k per year on a long term deal
You gotta remember he was 4th/5th banana at Sydney, and yes both Carlton and GC came hard but he'd already settled on Hawthorn mid season. $2.2m over 4 years looks a lot better than 900k over 5 at Sydney. Part of Sydney's logic was they overpaid earlier in his contract and wanted him to sacrifice to make up for it. He just wanted a fair contract. No doubt when this contract runs out he's gonna cost us in the vicinity of 750k to 800k per season.
 
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You gotta remember he was 4th/5th banana at Sydney, and yes both Carlton and GC came hard but he'd already settled on Hawthorn mid season. $2.2m over 4 years looks a lot better than 900k over 5 at Sydney. Part of Sydney's logic was they overpaid earlier in his contract and wanted him to sacrifice to make up for it. He just wanted a fair contract. No doubt when this contract runs out he's gonna cost us in the vicinity of 750k to 800k per season.
Yes he held us over a barrel to be drafted and was paid $500k a season as a rookie
 
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You gotta remember he was 4th/5th banana at Sydney, and yes both Carlton and GC came hard but he'd already settled on Hawthorn mid season. $2.2m over 4 years looks a lot better than 900k over 5 at Sydney. Part of Sydney's logic was they overpaid earlier in his contract and wanted him to sacrifice to make up for it. He just wanted a fair contract. No doubt when this contract runs out he's gonna cost us in the vicinity of 750k to 800k per season.
He'd settled on Hawthorn in January.
 

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