Opinion End of 2014 ladder

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1 Hawthorn
2 Fremantle
3 Collingwood
4 Richmond
5 Geelong
6 Sydney
7 Port Adelaide
8 Gold Coast
9 North Melbourne
10 Adelaide
11 Brisbane
12 Western Bulldogs
13 West Coast
14 St Kilda
15 Carlton
16 Essendon
17 Greater Western Sydney
18 Melbourne
 
1. Hawthorn
2. Fremantle
3. Collingwood ( :mad: )
4. Richmond
5. Geelong
6. North Melbourne
7. Sydney
8. Port Adelaide
9. Adelaide
10. Gold Coast
11. Brisbane
12. Western Bulldogs
13. Carlton
14. West Coast
15. St Kilda
16. GWS
17. Melbourne
18. Essendon*
 

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I'm just saying, we've never dropped below 12th in our entire history. We won't start now.

You said 8th not 12th. They have dropped below 8th plenty of times in history (history is irrelevant though)
 
1. Collingwood
2. Geelong
3. Richmond
4. North Melbourne
5. Sydney
6. Fremantle
7. Hawthorn
8. Brisbane
9. Carlton
10. Bulldogs
11. Port Adelaide
12. Gold Coast
13. Adelaide
14. Saint Kilda
15. Essendon
16. West Coast
17. GWS
18. Melbourne
 
1. Fremantle
2. Geelong
3. North Melbourne
4. Collingwood
5. Sydney
6. Adelaide
7. Richmond
8. Hawthorn

9. Port Adelaide
10. Gold Coast
11. Western Bulldogs
12. Essendon
13. Carlton
14. West Coast
15. Brisbane
16. Melbourne
17. Greater Western Sydney
18. St Kilda
 
1. Fremantle
2. Geelong
3. North Melbourne
4. Collingwood
5. Sydney
6. Hawthorn
7. West Coast
8. Essendon

9. Brisbane
10. Richmond
11. Gold Coast
12. Adelaide
13. Western Bulldogs
14. Port Adelaide
15. Carlton
16. Melbourne
17. St Kilda
18. GWS
 

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I hope the bookies rate the ladders like this.
I'll be loading up on Essendon to top 4 at $21.

They are you odds to win the Grand Final - zero chance you will get that for top 4.


Cats, Hawks and Swans $5
Freo - $6.50
Pies $8.00
Tigers $10.00
Roos - $15.00
Ess - $21.00
WCE - $21.00
Crows - $31.00
Bris - $31.00
Blues - $31.00
Port - $51.00
Suns - $67.00
Dogs - $101

Saints, GWS, Dees - write your own ticket.
 
No Infraction notices issued:

1. Geelong
2. Sydney
3. Fremantle
4. Richmond
5. Collingwood
6. Hawthorn
7. North Melbourne
8. Western Bulldogs

9. Port Adelaide
10. Gold Coast
11. Brisbane
12. Carlton
13. Adelaide
14. Essendon
15. West Coast
16. GWS
17. Melbourne
18. St Kilda

Infraction notices issued:
1. Geelong
2. Sydney
3. Fremantle
4. Richmond
5. Collingwood
6. Hawthorn
7. North Melbourne
8. Western Bulldogs

9. Port Adelaide
10. Gold Coast
11. Brisbane
12. Carlton
13. Adelaide
14. West Coast
15. GWS
16. Essendon
17. Melbourne
18. St Kilda
 
1. Hawks
2. Freo
3. Richmond
4. Geelong
5. Port Adelaide
6. Sydney
7. North Melbourne
8. Gold Coast
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9. Collingwood
10. Carlton
11. Essendon*
12. Adelaide
13. Brisbane
14. St Kilda
15. Bulldogs
16. West Coast
17. GWS
18. Melbourne
 
Without knowing the draw, (or the Bombers stuff) its obviously hard to call, but since we at least know the top 6 will get a harder draw than the middle 6 who get a harder draw than the bottom 6....

1. Fremantle
2. Sydney
3. Geelong
4. North Melbourne
5. Hawthorn
6. Collingwood
7. Richmond
8. Port
9. Gold Coast
10. Western Bulldogs
11. Essendon
12. Adelaide
13. Carlton
14. Brisbane
15. West Coast
16. GWS
17. St Kilda
18. Melbourne
 
1. Collingwood
2. Fremantle
3. Richmond
4. Hawthorn
5. Carlton
6. North
7. Sydney
8. Gold Coast
9. Geelong
10. Brisbane
11. Bulldogs
12. Port Adelaide
13. Adelaide
14 GWS
15. West Coast
16. Essendon
17. Melbourne
18 St Kilda
 
1. Fremantle (will need a new power forward though)
2. Geelong (up and coming youngsters will keep them alive)
3. Hawthorn (they will lose Buddy, but still look what they have achieved when Buddy hasn't been playing)
4. Sydney (they still will have one of the best sides)
5. Gold Coast (expect a lot from these boys)
6. Port Adelaide (will want to avenge their September loss)
7. Richmond (will be back in finals with Trent Cotchin winning the Brownlow)
8. Melbourne (under Roos expect a lot, will be the Port Adelaide of 2014 and i'm not just saying that because i am a Dees supporter)
9. North Melbourne (will choke...again)
10. West Coast (will be going through a rebuilding phase under a new young coach)
11. Adelaide (have a talented midfield, need to get a more functional forward line with Taylor Walker winning the Coleman, Backline will be near rubbish)
12. Collingwood (Will go through a big cleanout and have a huge rebuilding phase, under an ordinary coach in Nathan Buckley)
13. Western Bulldogs (Expect a similar output to 2013, their glue players are ageing)
14. Brisbane (under a new coach and with a lot of players wanting to leave, will be ordinary)
15. Essendon (Will still be affected from the drug saga, look at their recent form in the last 4-5 weeks)
16: Carlton (don't expect much from the Blues, have a similar year to the Pies)
17. GWS (Will take a few baby steps but will lose Taylor Adams coming to a Vic club most likely Melbourne)
18. St. Kilda (Will be the new Melbourne)
 
Roos got Sydney out of s**t storm in his first year from 11th to 4th.
Why can't he go from 17th to 8th?
I can't see Paul Roos coaching a side not in the finals.
 
Roos got Sydney out of s**t storm in his first year from 11th to 4th.
Why can't he go from 17th to 8th?
I can't see Paul Roos coaching a side not in the finals.

Because their is daylight between the rest of the competition and St Kilda, Melbourne and GWS at the moment. If Melbourne finished 8th as you said and play Gold Coast in the first week of the finals I will happily pay $5000 for you to stay the night at Warwick Capper's joint.
 

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