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Do we need a send-off rule in the AFL?
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The Darkman
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First point. The player, Eric Cantona, playing for Manchester United, had been dismissed for kicking Crystal Palace's Richard Shaw. Before this incident occurred.
Second point. The person Cantona kicked in the picture, Jim White, was a Crystal Palace supporter who abused Cantona as he walked from the field.
Third point. Eric Cantona was subsequently suspended from football for nine months for kicking White and served a short jail term.
As a result, players were given greater protection from abusive opposition spectators. This reminds me of the Ty Vickery incident in Perth last year after Vickery knocked out Dean Cox. Vickery went to the dug out and had West Coast supporters abusing him from close range.
My point. The AFL MUST PROTECT PLAYERS FROM SUCH AN INCIDENT.
Please. The commentary with the likes of Brian Taylor, Richo and Dwayne Russell is already unbearable. Do people have any idea what it would be like with a sin bin? From a practical point of view it's not necessary as it the sin bin exists in games like rugby and ice hockey because they have fair dinkum punch ons which we don't in the AFL. In soccer the red card send off is primarily for premeditated crude and dangerous tackles which can cause serious injuries to players and can ruin the game because tackling is such a big part of the game.
The Darkman
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I had also projected such a scenario. Except I used Brian Lake and had him knocking out both Fyfe and Pav. And Ballantyne because he's a little sh*t. Hawks down by 5 goals at half-time. Clarkson panicking as the three peat is sinking fast. Lake is close to the end of his career. If he retires a three time premiership winner, he can cop a fine.
Sin binning. The umpire could have any incidents reviewed by an official during the remainder of the quarter with a verdict communicated at the next break. If the offending player is 'sin binned', his sentence will be the next quarter. This protects umpires from possibly making wrong decisions. Too easy. I put forward a few ideas on Sunday morning and was roundly abused by Hawthorn supporters.
But if we had a sin bin the Bombers might not have knocked Hawthorn out of the 2009 finals.
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No, it is great that our game doesn't have stupid rules like soccer or rugby. It needs to stay that way !!!
I am merely pointing out that it is a common occurrence in the way that soccer is played and hence, the send off rule. The ref judges the severity and/or frequency of a player fouling an opponent in terms of yellow or red card. Soccer is a completely different kettle of fish to the way AFL is played. In addition to potential injury a foul can be the difference between winning and losing due to the low scoring.
Our game does have those rules, I know, I've been yellow carded before.
We was hoping we could sub on Silvia carrying a spiked baseball bat...
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If you had it, it would have to be only if a player is unable to continue eg Vickery on Cox.
The trouble then is if a Fyfe type bumps a 1st gamer and gets him high he could just stay off to get Fyfe sent off.
The retiring player gong nuts in the GF scenario is always there but there's still the law if a guy went around deliberately KOing guys. It's just as likely to be abused the other way with guys staging and baiting the good players.
The trouble then is if a Fyfe type bumps a 1st gamer and gets him high he could just stay off to get Fyfe sent off.
The retiring player gong nuts in the GF scenario is always there but there's still the law if a guy went around deliberately KOing guys. It's just as likely to be abused the other way with guys staging and baiting the good players.
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Sin bin for violence I think
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If this game could go through a period of 12 months without a rule change, then I'd be really amazed.
Happy, but completely amazed.
Leave the game alone.
All of you.
Happy, but completely amazed.
Leave the game alone.
All of you.
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In the NRL players are rarely sent off these days. Even for violent acts in State of Origin and Finals - think James Graham biting Billy Slater in the 2012 Grand Final. Equally the ten minute sin bin is seldom used. The exception being when players have performed 'professional fouls' during the course of play. I believe referees are reluctant to influence the outcome of a match by penalising a team for an individuals actions. Instead players are reported and suspensions handed out post-match. I anticipate a sin bin/send off rule in the AFL would inevitably take a similar pathway.
And that's the way it should be used. It's there for the extreme cases, but shouldn't diminish the mrp's role.
billy fragos
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Absolutely not, but I would like too see some advantage given too the opposing team especially if one of their players is taken off the field
Well we did once have a send off rule of sorts, it wasn't for violence though it was for when you were playing s**t and the coached benched you for the game, the good old 19th man.
Yes but the player should be able to be replaced and it should be judged by a 3rd umpire. Has to be extreme cases like hodge, yarran
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How about an Ice-Hockey powerplay? Lose a player for 2 minutes, and if a goal is scored he can come back on.
This could become quite problematic if there is an all-in-brawl as I don't think 10+ players will fit in the box.
This could become quite problematic if there is an all-in-brawl as I don't think 10+ players will fit in the box.
billy fragos
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It could work, let's say Aaron Sandilands is knocked out by Jack watts. Aaron is forced too be subbed leaving freo too use their sub early which can affect the last quarter.
Would it really make such a difference if watts is also forced too be subbed.
Although in saying that I am 100% against it.
Would it really make such a difference if watts is also forced too be subbed.
Although in saying that I am 100% against it.
billy fragos
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How about we chain him to the goal square?
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Introducing a 'send-off' rule wouldn't be 'changing the game' for all you conservative tragics. It's a rule that a) already exists at most levels of the game and b) wouldn't change how the game is played.
For what it's worth I'm all in favour of it. Obviously there are some concerns about how it would be administered, but the idea of sending off players mid-game for serious rules violations is sound. Incidents like those from Hodge and Lewis during the Saturday game - the AFL should be embarassed that players are able to do something like that mid game and then play out the night. It's a poor advertisement for the game and a poor lesson for the youngsters in Auskick.
For what it's worth I'm all in favour of it. Obviously there are some concerns about how it would be administered, but the idea of sending off players mid-game for serious rules violations is sound. Incidents like those from Hodge and Lewis during the Saturday game - the AFL should be embarassed that players are able to do something like that mid game and then play out the night. It's a poor advertisement for the game and a poor lesson for the youngsters in Auskick.
