NO TROLLS Angus Brayshaw retires

[Blue and Silver]

Sad to see a career end this way.

Best of luck to Angus and I hope he feels minimal effects heading forward

 

[Scritchyscroony]

Bold added. This is the bit that just hasn't sunk in for so many people. It's that part specifically addressed by this year's rule changes.

This is the rule NOW, which still leaves it open to plenty of interpretation.
We don't judge a person retrospectively. He acted within the rules at the time. His act was 1. To smother, 2. To protect himself.
Zero intention to injure. The way you people have judged Maynard here defies all reason. It's purely based based on an unfortunate unintended outcome and your dislike for him as a player.

 

[VernonSpots]

"Your feet leave the ground it's your responsibility and you take the risk"....................."unless your team is in the Grand final next week"

The way everyone goes on abt Premiership glory being everything, no wonder the Tribunal are tainted and make dodgy decisions.

This BS will get resolved if they give a Medal to either all squad or Finals participants or players who play X games in the season.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Technically expert footballer who was also an excellent competitor. No doubt one of Melbourne's most important 6 players or so.

You have to feel for Melbourne, who have now lost from their flag team their boom young prospect Jackson poached, Brayshaw to concussion and likely it seems Oliver to the dark side. Tough to replace all that within a time frame to allow the club to take advantage of its superstars Gawn and Petracca, and to a lesser extent May.

I will always hold the view Maynard should have been suspended for propelling himself so recklessly through the air in the general direction of a player running towards him kicking the ball, even under the rules that existed at that time. You cannot allow any scenario where a player is clear and kicks the ball then after doing so is felled by the only player within many metres.

 

[Nikita Blue]

A terrible way for a champion player to leave the game.

I hope that he is able to live his post football life without too many complications. I also hope that the silver lining to this is that the AFL finally takes concussion seriously.

 

[sherb]

You're wrong.
Go read the detailed verdict and reasoning. Thats what you should base your opinion off. It's the official position. The AFL makes and adjudicated rules not randoms on Bigfooty.

The official position was that Rocca was suspended for the 2003 Grand Final too. Presumably you were supportive of that?

 

[kickazz]

This is the rule NOW, which still leaves it open to plenty of interpretation.
We don't judge a person retrospectively. He acted within the rules at the time. His act was 1. To smother, 2. To protect himself.
Zero intention to injure. The way you people have judged Maynard here defies all reason. It's purely based based on an unfortunate unintended outcome and your dislike for him as a player.

No it isn't. It's based on the idea that intentional/accidental is not a discrete, binary thing - but a continuum that includes reckless and careless. Many folks believed it was closer to the reckless end than the tribunal ultimately did last year, that is all. And like you say the 2024 rules/guidelines are such that they are more in alignment with those assessments.

 

[Philhawk]

Brilliant career, farcically cut short by Maynard.

Wouldn’t be surprised if the AFL quietly provided a settlement to avoid future culpability for farcically letting Maynard off

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Real shame for Brayshaw

 

[adammania9]

Brilliant career, farcically cut short by Maynard.

Wouldn’t be surprised if the AFL quietly provided a settlement to avoid future culpability for farcically letting Maynard off

The AFL gave Maynard three weeks

 

[Corn Cobbers]

The official position was that Rocca was suspended for the 2003 Grand Final too. Presumably you were supportive of that?

Rocca was an obvious suspension, can't recall too many complaints at the time apart from the nuffies

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[Scritchyscroony]

No it isn't. It's based on the idea that intentional/accidental is not a discrete, binary thing - but a continuum that includes reckless and careless. Many folks believed it was closer to the reckless end than the tribunal ultimately did last year, that is all. And like you say the 2024 rules/guidelines are such that they are more in alignment with those assessments.

Protecting yourself from injury is reckless now?

If this exact incident did not involve:
1 Maynard and Collingwood, 2. Brayshaw with his history of concussions.
My guess is 90% of you wouldn't care and would accept the verdict.

 

[Bianconeri]

The AFL has and will always appeal Tribunal rulings. They are separate.

The fact you think they are the same, explains a lot.

The tribunal has and will always get stuff wrong. This is one of them HENCE the rule brought it to remove the grey area the tribunal chose to use.

If the tribunal got it wrong there would be no need for the AFL to change the rule.

The precedent in Maynard’s favour was already set.

Hall knocked out after Duncan's smother attempt

Geelong's Mitch Duncan collects Aaron Hall, who subsequently gets ruled out of the game

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[Doc1763]

Rocca was an obvious suspension, can't recall too many complaints at the time apart from the nuffies

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he copped Lade in the head, he was always getting suspended.

 

[OniAu]

Right decision. Life is more important after Football. Glad he took the responsibility out of other players hands and decided to retire whilst still in tact.

Great player. Type of player Melbourne need currently with their off field issues piling up

 

[kickazz]

Protecting yourself from injury is reckless now?

No, for the fiftieth time, the bit right before that.

 

[FIGJAM]

The AFL didnt make the decision. The Tribunal did.

The AFL collectively made the decision hours before the Tribunal and they made the correct decision.

The Tribunal is window dressing for such high profile issues.

 

[sideswipe]

The AFL has and will always appeal Tribunal rulings. They are separate.

The fact you think they are the same, explains a lot.

The tribunal has and will always get stuff wrong. This is one of them HENCE the rule brought it to remove the grey area the tribunal chose to use.

So why didn't the AFL appeal the Maynard tribunal decision?

 

[My Tilly]

Not sure why people are blaming Maynard here.
Brayshaw's been getting concussed for years.

 

[Doc1763]

Not sure why people are blaming Maynard here.
Brayshaw's been getting concussed for years.

anyone other than a Collingwood player, it would be a non-issue. Its the "Collingwood Tax", we've been paying it forever.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Why do I sense massive legal action coming up? No good can come from this.

 

[Big Animal]

Good story - except that Worksafe has nothing to do with injuries incurred during professional sporting contests.

u seem very defensive considering i'm not talking about Collingwood

clearly Maynard was playing within the AFL's rules.

The AFL's rules are the issue. There's more than enough research and experience within AFL from dead footballers to indicate Brayshaw will now be dealing with symptoms of CTE for the rest of his life.

 

[GWT6]

So why didn't the AFL appeal the Maynard tribunal decision?

Because the AFL wanted the coward to get off.

Collingwood has different rules by the AFL and Media. Just look at Maynard's recent behavior - driving erratically off his chops after a three-day bender, crashes into another driver, and no action at all.

Hopefully, Maynard gets put behind bars before he kills someone on the road. And something happens soon and he has to retire so he can't cause a brain injury to another player.

 

[hawkman]

Not sure why people are blaming Maynard here.
Brayshaw's been getting concussed for years.

Except he hadn't been for 5 years

 

[Doc1763]

A career ended by a dog act and Maynard didn't even get a week or a fine.

The correct decision was made