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Yeah, players like Lippa and Lewie will always have the same flaws as players that hold them back that they'd always had while playing for us.

21 points up with the wind in the last, Seagulls will need to play out of their skins considering it was still down our end so much.

Lazy defending by McNeil there, didn't get over a trot when he easily could have ran after that slow Williamstown player

Baker needs to stop trying to kick it along the boundary line.

Bianco best on, 3 goals and 13 touches. Busslinger looking very confident in defence today, pick of the AFL listed players. Bedendo getting closer to it as a high half forward. Freijah and Cleary doing the job in defence. Jones, Clarke quiet. Clarke is leading the team in tackles alongside...

I think he'll debut if JOD goes down again or gets dropped this season. I think Keath plays if Jones is injured.

Kicking with the wind well today, aiming to the right and letting the wind drag it back for set shots.

Website says 191, I think he was 189 when we recruited him.

Willi had most of it in the first quarter but the wind was killing it for them, we didn't have any height up forward so we were kicking it up the line to nobody. Been much better with moving the ball this quarter

BOG for the team, Busslinger probably the best of the AFL listed players.

Good finish from McNeil with the wind, another score assist for Bianco.

Last VFL commentator we had that barracked for us was the British bloke and I'm pretty sure he was more just a massive fan of Buku.

Nice mark and goal, Bedendo's checkside kick went higher than it went forwards but the wind did its job.

Glad to get the goal there but the ball dropped like a stone with that wind.

I think they might be referring to it taking too long to sign up a developing tall.

I like that he, Croft and JOD are all willing to attack the ball in the air. I'm feeling more comfortable with them as our three talls in defence following Jones retiring.

Really missing some grunt in the midfield and needing a tall target up forward. Downie is winning the ruck but Gardener is holding his own although Downie is dominating around the ground right now.

Last year was basically a write off for development because of how limited his preseason was but he's doing well this year for the most part.

Finally get the first goal of the game after Willi have been peppering the goals. As stated before though, we have zero height up forward especially when Croft roams up the ground.

You can really tell we have no height forward of centre once Croft moves further up the ground.

Gardner was our starting ruck last week.

Okay what are we doing with Gardner in the ruck? We recruited Owen to play ruck in the VFL when Smith missed and Gardner is never going to play ruck minutes at AFL level

Gags looks sore, might bench him for the rest of the game.

Invented a free for the Saints to get a shot at goal

lol, not paying that arm chop was an evening up call.

Definitely getting a free ride with the umpires but a lot of it is that the Saints are looking to raise their arm in tackles or go forward a little too easily.

Three players there and he still picked out Buku.

I'm glad that Garcia is in but we need him in the guts as much as possible so hopefully he gets a lot of rotations in the midfield.