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What a fascinatingly absurd method of valuing players. There’s gonna be ups and downs along the way. We aren’t as good as we thought we were going into this season, but we equally aren’t as bad as the doomsdayers will have you believe. Patience is a virtue.

Patience, friends.

Having watched him today, I think it’s important with young kids to temper expectations and not get too excited. That said, how many Coleman medals do we think he’ll win?

Swans had 17 AFL listed players in their team today. Outstanding win.

To be clear, not judging the kids at all. I’m judging Fisher and Stephens, who were both very average footballers long before they joined North.

Teams like Richmond are about to enter their own decline. I dare say they’d be prime candidates for a trade up (with some quality older players going the other way).

If I’m North, call me crazy, but I’d split pick 1 into a bag of still decent picks - and offer them around the league for quality leaders/older players.

Not traded them? You realize if you hadn’t traded them, going 0-23 would have likely meant those picks would have turned into beginning of first round priority picks? Now there’s no chance of that.

No, you didn’t have to do anything? Where are you getting that from? https://www.afl.com.au/news/1041604/afl-commission-signs-off-on-north-melbourne-assistance-package/amp?webview=true

No, it wasn’t. The North list management team made some very stupid decisions to waste them.

Bullshit spin? You had priority picks gifted to you and you wasted them on garbage players, who you then rewarded with long contracts. Spin that.

Sheezel is a clear cut 1. He has it all. I don’t know how, but after starting on fire, Wardlaw looks progressively worse after each game. Not only that, he’s under 20 games into his career and his body already looks shot. LDU is a front runner and Larkey needs to be better at marking overhead...

How long before Sheezel gets sick of always losing?

This isn’t even VFL level from North.

Some of the Crows’ younger players looking pretty promising today. We can comfortably say it’s at least not North.

It’s a shame because if he had performed, he would have easily attracted that $700k contract that would have rewarded North with Pick 2. At this stage he’d be lucky to get Band 2.

Brisbane trading for an old Hodge, WC for Sam Mitchell should be the kind of trades North need to try and emulate. It might not even be a tough sell, but a 2 year (1 to play, 1 to coach) to Pendles on decent coin might be enticing.

Respected 30 year olds looking for a final paycheck that their current clubs aren’t keen to hand out?

If the rumors are true about Zurhaar and LDU, then I actually have no clue what the path forward is. For LDU, trade him for leaders. Forget picks, they’re pointless.

Extend his contract.

We joke about in this thread and I never thought I’d write this, but after seeing first hand the sheer despair from North fans live at the game yesterday (particularly the younger ones), I do think they should get some help. If the Hawks or Eagles lose 26 games in a row, the sun will still...

Possibility the understatement of the year. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a poorer group of senior players.

Blind Freddy can tell you they need two things. Quality experience and talls. Trade down, take best young talk in draft and trade future picks for experience. But, in typical fashion, they’ll enter the draft with pick 1 and posture for weeks about how they can’t see value to split and move...

Starting to get major Bill Belichek vibes with him. Poor bloke is gonna rue the fact he passed up Carlton till the end.

All jokes aside, I do actually feel bad. You don’t mind a loss if there’s effort put in - but some of the efforts from older North players were absolutely insipid.

Chadwiko, still reckon North are ahead in their rebuild? Asking for a mate.

Comben has talent, but not matching McKay and then ignoring Curtin with one of their two top picks was simply baffling. Self inflicted pain.

Faded late, but positive signs. North are shite, but you take the wins where you can get them. Need to build on this.