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Yeah trade for an untested 18yo vs Fyfe who is going to perhaps be the best player in the league in a couple years. No.

1) Umpires gave them 3 goals. That's the game there. But.... 2) Shocking kicking was the biggest reason. All those set shots missed and even easy on the run ones sprayed. I never thought the current team would get into the grand final because there is just something missing to make them...

He could be that good. He is a catalyst, what this means to non science people is he gives others around him extra energy due to his efforts. Yes he is a fool at times but he doesn't stop trying (ala Dawson) Subans best this season hasn't eclipsed Robinsons best but they are both still young...

Yep, they still won a bit like Freo. Amazingly.

Suban has had his best season at Freo this year. Mitch Robinson just single hanhedly won a final for Carlton. So they are both doing pretty good at the moment. Robinson has clearly had the better career to date though, not sure why people keep bringing this up when it's obvious Robinson has been...

Pretty poor. Biggest game for the club in a while, our highest paid midfielder, and 18 disposals? Thankfully we have players like Fyfe and Barlow able to step up and shoulder the burden so that bit players like Mundy can take that secondary role. Hill did fairly well today too I thought, and...

In 2006 Sydney put out the freo Flame in a prelim that took place at ANZ stadium. In 2013 will Freo put Sydney out of their misery in Perth?

Agreed. I'm just saying if we lost this game by less than 4 goals it would be an absolute farce. The fact we won it with everything going against us just shows how much better Freo were.

Maybe maybe, but given the weakness of the shot it shows how weak Stevie J is if anything. One of my girlfriends commented that if I ever went down with a shot like that she'd leave me.... that's not a "man" she said.

This exact same thing happened to a geelong player later in the game and was called a ball up. Which makes it even more puzzling. Everyone prefers finals games to NOT be over umpired but if they're going to ******* over umpire the game then be fair about it. That umpire who reported Dawson needs...

If Geelong weren't gifted those free kicks in front of goal they would have had 3.11 to half time and Freo would be 4-5 goals up. Freo won with rigged umpiring on a hostile ground, it's great credit to the players.

Are you kidding me? At one stage freo had 1 free kick (another was an out on the full which doesn't really count) with minutes to go to half time. Meanwhile Geelong had 10. One umpire in particular was giving away soft s**t (the guy who reported Dawson). Meanwhile Sandilands in getting mugged...

That first half was an absolute joke of umpiring. The second half was a lot better umpired but the umpires gave Geelong about 3 goals in the first half, and nearly could have been 5 or 6 if those players were accurate. The most biased umpiring I've seen against Freo for a couple years. The...

It's not so bad losing the first final anyhow. Gives more finals experience to the young team. iirc Swans lost their first final in 05, they won the GF, in 06 WCE lost theirs and won.

Seems a bit ..... boring in a way. Why did the AFL fixture this between two likely finalists?

I have no real problem with all of those, though they are questionable in regards to effectiveness. Most you can buy easily now. The reality is Essendon were pushing a "new" injection schedule that involved compounds not currently banned that were likely going to be banned in the future. Is...

You think Dank is going to freely incriminate himself if he is guilty? That is hilarious. As it stands right now ASADA has _nothing_, their interim report stated as much. Now when it comes to the AFL they want to remove this "experimental" and "injecting aspect from the image of AFL...

Freo is the club for me you fool. First thing I'll do as senior coach is drop you as a supporter.

They can *prove* it can they? Hence why no infractions been issued? lol If they had any proof on Essendon doing anything illegal they wouldn't have had this 6 month pony circus, it would have been quick and clinical. The "disrepute" brought into the game is ASADA and AFL fault for even...

Yeah as it stands none of the known injected substances are banned. Let's wipe the club from the AFL because they increased their injection rate and there is a "risk" something was in the needle that they didn't know about (the same can be said with any needle in any place).

Why does everyone think Hawks will beat Sydney?

Well forget that, if POINTS are taken from Essendon it seems fair to me to reward the teams they beat. Not just merely take them from Essendon. I know I may be biased but I'd rather Freo were top 2. :P

Makes more sense to me that the teams that lost to Essendon should get 4 points for the game and Essendon 0. How can they merely just take points from Essendon and not reward teams that they beat? This puts us into the top 2 if it happens, yes?

Your objections are completely, and ridiculously subjective. Just because AFL athletes are on caffeine, creatine, and a variety of other things doesn't mean kids should do it. Further, only a small percentage of amateurs make it to the big leagues. Kids can take the hard gear if they really...

You are aware this happens for all clubs right? Players themselves that have salaries depending upon performance would willfully sign up to legal enhancements, if not it's their choice. Jobe Watson won a brownlow whilst on this "crazy supplement" scheme, so there is some anecdotal evidence what...

It's about time someone does stand up for themselves instead of running away like a coward from mere accusations. I don't like Hird, or Essendon, but these charges against them are as *ed as Alaskan summer days are long. The AFL is pretty much running on the "vibe of things". If you don't...

The AFL is trying to make this much bigger than it is and will come out on the losing end. The Essendon doctor(s) and sport scientist(s) and backyard guy(s) put Essendon players on supplements which weren't banned, or if they were, are minor banned drugs in the scheme of things. Pushing the...

Sheridan, Silvagni, Hannath, Sutcliffe, Neale, Clarke are the 6 biggest issues. De Boer and Clancee seem like some of the dumbest players going around at stages. "ok the opponent has his head over the ball, let me run into him and make contact"."I don't really have leg speed, ball skills or...

I don't think Mundy played that different a game than he usually did. Just because he had a few highly visible blunders today doesn't make it different than most weeks and his not so easily visible blunders. He leads the club (or did anyhow) at clangers per disposal. I wouldn't be singling him...

Also when commentators as dumb as Frawley are giving good advice to players like Clarke you know something is wrong. What is with many of our players refusing to damage the other team? Put your knee out and clop him in the head to protect your space Clarke instead of playing like it's basketball...