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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    Absolutely agree with this comment. I love my stats, and some are trotting out some great Fantasia stats, but my memory is sadly his stats are padded out by big games against easy opposition. His highlights are great but cannot be trusted to consistently deliver when it counts.
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    Toast Tom Jonas Retires

    Stepped up when needed to be a fantastic captain. His conduct / attitude could never be faulted. Can't be easy when you're not the most talented player going around but was clearly team first, and made things easier for others. I honestly thought he was ripe for delisting around his 3rd...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    Easy to be wise in hindsight, but one serious problem for Port was all year it fielded too much "cream" and not enough "cake". When the midfield, largely carried by wines and boak fired, we could carry (and even thrive) with the excess "cream". Port's best 22 had too many players of a...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    I'm only judging him on his value to the team. Being a "front and centre crumber" is only one small element of the game, which is largely redundant under Port's usual playing style, especially in finals (when do we ever kick quickly to one on one contests to enable many crumbs?). In high...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    he used all his luck getting a contract to port! otherwise he's had an "unlucky career". seriously, a full strength Port, come finals time, are better off without him. when gray, rozee, motlop are playing in same side he's the least versatile and most dispensable. if it's not obvious, I'm...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    the best time to judge a trade is after they've fulfilled their contract, but Fantasia trade is starting to turn out as expected. Injury prone. Flashes in for some nice goals occasionally (usually in the games against weaker opposition) but all-round contributions have been diminishing, and...
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    News Scott Lycett signs with Port Districts

    in lycett's defence, willem drew was possibly partly to blame for severity of impact. it wasn't malicious, but drew pushed mchenry, at the same time as the start of lycett's sling. drew might have inadvertently added some momentum to the rotation of the tackle. shouldn't be more than 3 games...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    Credit where credit due. Schulzenfest you were bullish on Fantasia all trade period. When he went down with ankle niggle early in game against Richmond I thought "here we go". but he gutsed it out. It's still early days but so far, he's playing with pride and resilience, beside the sharp...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    Lore calculates Port now has 1187 points. Obviously these can still change around a bit. Pick 11 is 1329 points. Less 20% is 1063. I'm no expert but things seem tight, and that's not factoring in Schofield or plans for 2021. Can't see Fantasia is worth the stress at the price we paid. Are...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    The only way this deal makes sense is Port are confident the Jones bid will slide to AFTER Essendon's picks (ie: pick 11 or later?). We must have "bought goodwill" from Essendon. Otherwise we have now left ourselves quite exposed to a draft deficit this year and could be very thin re draft...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    Above quote was exactly what he said, ie: confident port will talk to essendon but less confident a deal gets done. It appears to be Essendon who thinks pick 29 alone is insufficient. CD said something like "there are other options to try and help Essendon get Fantasia over the line". I'm...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    Interesting comments, but the price isn't just the picks we give up. it's the wage he'll get and the spot on our list he'll take (probably for at least a 3 year contract judging by CD's comments). Against good team's there's no way you can play Fantasia and Motlop in same team (their...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    Fair point, but in football terms. once you're around 25 the "die is cast". It's very, very, rare you'll get a player much different to how their career has been trending. Rockliff, Motlop, and Watts are great recent examples. We've got the best we can out of them, but they've performed mostly...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    Hugely disappointed to hear CD confirm Port still have pick 29 on the table for Fantasia. We should be only taking the risk on him for peanuts. Fantasia seems to have done a good job networking/selling himself to some of the Port boys, but the recruiters and some BF posters are being blinded...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    Hey REH, I don't think you can assume Fantasia is "tpp 11 or top 12 paid player at Essendon" because Footywire lists him as RFA. Footywire lists Tim Broomhead as a RFA with Collingwood and I'd doubt he's one of Collingwood's higher paid players. I'm guessing Footywire records as RFA based on...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    I'm not liking where this Fantasia trade is heading. My money is on Port securing him and giving up "pick 28" and a little bit extra (future 3rd or 4th). Yuk. should only be secured as a risky "freebie". If Ken says we are bringing Fantasia to Port, and Fantasia has already "packed his bags"...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    I'm going to be outraged if we've offered "pick 26" with nothing coming back. I just don't rate this guy. If he was a freebie I might be convinced to take the risk. but given Essendon's alleged bullshit ambit demands I'd be taking my business elsewhere.
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    This Fantasia proposed trade is laughable. How those fools on Trading Day can keep a straight face when talking about Essendon's alleged demands is ludicrous. Yes, Essendon ultimately control the player as he's contracted, but he wants to leave and Essendon want him to leave so they shouldn't...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    Fantasia wouldn't get a game for Richmond. Even if he happened to be fit, he just doesn't have the defensive game and doesn't provide a consistent enough attacking threat to pay his way. Please don't waste your time and draft capital chasing this guy Port.
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    If this report is true, would be the height of stupidity to give him more than 2 year contact. Might not cost much if based on games he will play. If we gave up a 2nd rounder surely we'd be wanting equivalent points coming back such as 3rd or 4th round picks. We've got bigger fish to fry. We...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    Schulzenfest you're clearly onboard with Fantasia. Fair enough. Respect your opinion. You haven't convinced me though. His career highlights from 2015-2017 probably contains every kick he's ever had. Where's the 2020 update? Would it run for 10 seconds? Motlop's highlight package would be...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    The funny thing is Motlop, Farrell, Sutcliffe and Woodcock were all better value than Fantasia in 2020 who played 5 games for 1 goal. Plus we already own them and don't have to trade. Just because a player wants to "come home", and falls in our lap cheap, so what. Too right Fantasia isn't the...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    We've already got the deluxe version of Fantasia (Steven Motlop). No need for the cheaper imitation. Surely you wouldn't play both in same team. Would rather we recruited a decent player, who isn't injury prone, who's got strong character, who fills more immediate needs. If we get Fantasia...
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    News Orazio Fantasia departs for Carlton

    Fantasia to Crows. yes yes yes. Fantasia to Port. no no no no no no no. Sick of the sight of his name in relation to Port. List clogging, injury prone, hack.
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