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Forget about the armchair ride the Dogs received in the 2nd half? Umpiring was horrendous but it was a match of 2 halves for them Carlton in the first half then the Dogs in the 2nd.

Ash Smith definitely. Was close to BOG vs Carlton and had another great game vs Geelong in a blockbuster game. Is looking like a terrific prospect.

I don't think any of them can beat Collingwood, Geelong or West Coast. Hawthorn maybe but unlikely. So semi final looks a possibility, any further than that highly unlikely.

After the result today I am almost 100% that WC will finish ahead of Carlton. Hawthorn probably have to beat Carlton to finish 3rd otherwise West Coast will get 3rd.

WC also lost to Sydney in Perth in round 3, they have improved a lot since then.

lol nah. St Kilda's defense will be murdered. Dawson on Kennedy or Lynch lol they will kick 10

Adelaide Vs Essendon 4pts Carlton Vs Collingwood 48pts Richmond Vs Gold Coast 34pts St Kilda Vs West Coast 55pts Melbourne Vs Port Adelaide 15pts Sydney Vs Fremantle 14pts Brisbane Vs Geelong 74pts North Melbourne Vs Western Bulldogs 36pts Bye: Hawthorn

My final ladder prediction is - 1. Collingwood 2. Geelong 3. West Coast 4. Carlton 5. Hawthorn I think West Coast can beat Geelong, even at the MCG. Naitanui has to have a huge game though for it to happen. I don't think Hawthorn will make it past week 2 of the finals at best and...

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Have Brisbane merged again? this time with North?

I'm glad you agree. :)

Eagles smashed them earlier in the year???? Plus no Sandi and Mundy compared to that game, WC will win easily.

lol Carlton were demolished in their own backyard 2 weeks ago by a far superior team. Get some key forwards or at least a superstar midfield (2 guns isn't a midfield) and then maybe they can win a final.

It is Collingwood's to lose. I can't see the Hawks winning the flag with all their players out, Carlton also don't have good enough key position players. That leaves Geelong and West Coast to challenge the Pies. A Geelong West Coast qualifying or preliminary final will decide Collingwood's...

If Darling comes out tomorrow and takes 10 grabs 20 possessions and a couple of goals will this thread still exist?

Nope they will be pummelled. Depending on Collingwood's effort in the 4th qtr the result will be either 50+ or 80+

I don't think so. If a player is on 400k and gets offered 1 million they will accept. They may try and do what you say but GWS can just say take it or leave it.

I understand how people believe Geelong will just flick the switch but it usually doesn't work like that, especially against another top team. So what if Geelong is pissed off that they didn't beat Essendon, that doesn't mean that they will suddenly play good again.

1. Naitanui 2. Goldstein 3. Ruckman drafted in 2011 4. Ruckman drafted in 2012 5. Smith

West Coast will win and I wouldn't be suprised if it was a blowout. Last year when the Eagles won the spoon they were level at half time in this game and in Geelong in rd 22 I think they were leading at half time. Other than that one off game a few years ago where Ablett destroyed WC (no Ablett...

Back to the bay for you

Hawthorn has beaten West Coast, Fremantle, Essendon and Sydney. Carlton has only beaten Sydney.

I am giving these stats because of this post. This has nothing to do with the crap teams Hawthorn loses to.

Carlton has only beaten 1 team in the top 8. Hawthorn has beaten 4 teams in the top 8.

Hawks beat West Coast.

That's what we thought in 2008 as well (but Geelong instead of Collingwood). An off day and it's all over in September.

They played the first half against Carlton to see what Carlton could do then blew them away at the start of the 2nd half. Vs Hawthorn they did the opposite - just blew them away at the start of the game. Vs West Coast they knew they had to do it for the whole game or West Coast was a team...

Who had the better career Black or Cousins? Note: onfield performance only

Christensen or Mckenzie

West Coast v Geelong 45 Hawthorn v Brisbane 64 Gold Coast v Sydney 41 Essendon v Richmond 33 Collingwood v North Melbourne 94 Port Adelaide v St Kilda 17 Western Bulldogs v Carlton 55