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Fair enough. I'm wondering how good he still is considering he's missed so much footy. I wonder how much the game has changed since he had consistency and how hard he'll find it to adapt to a new style and pace. If someone gets his body and mind right, I'd be incredibly happy for the bloke -...

Garlett got worse. He's now spent what, about 4 or 5 years in jail since being picked up at the Hawks? The culture has changed. The leaders have changed. I'm not knocking the Hawks, but it is not the same playing group that was able to transform players as it once was. Cats would be the best...

Exactly. Freo can hold him to the contract if they want to. They might back themselves with a new coach to actually make him and his partner enjoy WA again. Noone has been schooled in anything until a deals done, and if this one falls through, Bell will have retained a player he wanted to keep.

I'd do this. I think freo might be a little short changed however.

I hope Mahoney trades in a spine for himself. Would love to play poker against him, has seemingly no ticker when it comes to trading.

Unfortunately I think he is. All of his trades end up with Hawthorn making out like bandits and everyone else getting the shaft. Wouldn't be surprised if he didn't offer Hawks 1st pick, Whitecross and Shoey for Cripps.

Why not ask for Daniher and Heppell as well? Ridiculous.

And as usual threads degenerate into garbage slanging matches between supporters from both teams. Not really keen on this trade at all. I wish I had the ability to see the future to see if this would be advantageous for us, but it just feels like we're banking on drafting/luring some big fish...

Needed a reason to push me to cancel my recurring payment for my membership and this is it. Guy sticks around through the s**t years and we're prepared to trade him away. This is half the reason we're in the s**t anyway, ditching blokes before their time just for draft picks. No loyalty from the...

I meant to quote the post before me where he suggested Lowden & Shoenmakers for Pick 9, but in that case you're correct, but two blokes who'd probably go for a mid 20s to 30s pick doesn't equal pick 9.

Two second rounders do not equal a first rounder.

Doubtful we'd give pick 20-21 for Merrett though. Maybe if we ended up with a later second round pick somehow is say that'd be about his currency. Watts is a bit like Merrett I think, what we want is way over what anyone would pay for him. I think he's relatively happy with Melbourne these...

Merrett is not worth a downgrade from 2 to 4.

Gwilt/Frost neither who are as good as TMac, and Frawley played as a swingman. Toby Greene's worth more than McDonald anyway. Shouldn't be cutting off our nose to spite our face in regards to getting mids.

GWS would be nuts as would we. Losing Frawley & McDonald in the same year? Horrible.

There goes that silly rumour.

I'd love him at the Dees, but surely at 34 and with a stellar career behind him, he wouldn't want to do a Shannon Byrnes and come to us.

Quoting any of the Facebook 'Off Season Trade/Rumour' pages as a source is about as reliable as quoting someone on BigFooty who 'is friends with a recruiter'. It's mostly just crap made up to get likes.

I'd say 1% is a generous figure. 0% is being generous.

I'd say 17 clubs will look at him. To pry Cameron from GWS's grasp would take an immense offer - complete overs. Kreuzer and pick 5 would get Carlton nowhere near it. A guy who is continuously injured and is yet to live up to anywhere near a #1 pick and a prospective player, for an out and out...

Didn't you guys try and give them Pick 9 last year when he wanted to leave, for which they said no to, and now you're offering them pick 12 for a guy that wants to stay there? Don't think it would be.

Or Dangerfield/Crouch, which, obviously won't be given up. You might pry a second rounder out of us for Vince, but you'd think Roos & his team will be relatively steadfast that they want someone in that <24 age bracket for pick 2 and that is it. Packages of average players for pick 2, while in...

Pyke's alright, and Tippet's an okay R/F player, but what do they have after that? Agree with you that their ruck stocks look very thin, but they had to cut someone big to fit Buddy in. What's available for them ruckwise though?

Not only that, he seems to play pretty damn well in the forward line too as a resting ruck, seen him take some good grabs and has a half decent kicking action too. Mumford & Giles are two big-bodied ruckman who I think will give the GWS mids a real boost.

I think he's the wrong kind of player for us. Need mids, and that's it, really. Honestly I can't see us giving it up at the moment. I see us targeting fringe players (like Roos always has) and offering them 100% game time and that will get us a little bit more competitive, potentially giving...

Sewell's what, 29? While he's a quality player, he's much too old for the Dee's age profile to trade for. Free Agency, sure, I'd have him, he's tough as nails. Savage has struggled to make it into Hawthorn's team (which is admittedly a very strong team) and your second rounder is very, very...

Jolly? McKernan? Hah.

Jesus did anyone else hear the bloke who had about 10 'the other thing is's?

Depending on how our trades work out - wouldn't mind him at the Dees, clearance winning inside mid, watched him a little bit on TV this year and seemed to have what it takes to give a little bit of grunt to our midfield, but unsure how he'd compare to someone like Magner who is already on our...

Would like to see the Dees try get Ellis - interesting Freo want him, does he fill a need for them?