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Naitanui has clearly performed the best of all so far in their careers. Look at his finals last year vs Collingwood and Geelong. Was the Eagles best player in both of those games.

The problem for Carlton is their KP stocks are either not good enough (Waite, Hampson) or too young for them to challenge for a flag before Judd is gone (Kreuzer, Henderson). There is also no depth at all in this department. It goes from average players to their depth who are horrendous or...

Bump. Almost guaranteed a top 4 position and IMO will be a Collingwood WC grand final.

Watts played a solid game without being great. Had a very good first qtr but then struggled the rest of the game. Quite a few cheap marks on half back as well.

It is a legitimate question. When everything is going against one team they will just fold and throw in the towel see Melbourne last night in the 2nd half vs ordinary opposition. Where as other teams with a bit of backbone get challenged but still throw everything at the opposition.

Which club is it? I believe it's between Fremantle, Melbourne, St Kilda and the Bulldogs. Didn't include GC because not enough data for them yet.

Worsfold-Silvagni-Scarlett McLeod-Jakovich-McKenna

What about finals stats? Johnson - Averages 5 disposals and 0.5 goals?

Johnson the perenial finals choker. I would take the player who doesn't flop on the big stage constantly.

Almost identical for all 3 teams so far....:eek:

Collingwood - Cloke, Dawes, Krakouer, Didak, Blair, Sidebottom Hawthorn - Franklin, Roughead, Rioli, Lewis, Burgoyne, Smith West Coast - Kennedy, Lynch, LeCras, Nicoski, Darling, Naitanui

Somebody upset that Naitanui destroyed Kreuzer the other day

He had a big influence on the game like his tap down for Nicoski on the opening goal. Plus he had 9 tackles all of which were heavy tackles making the opposition sore.

Errrr......because so many ruckman run opposition players down don't they?

Greenwood has performed better over his career to date but Masten has the potential to be a far superior player. Will he ever get there? At this stage it doesn't look like it.

Hawthorn's injuries must really hurt them over the next 2 months.

It will happen eventually. Look at Geelong in 2006 finished 12th? and won the flag easly the next year.

the first team to win the spoon then the flag the next year?

Darling's form has dropped off quite a bit since the Bulldogs game. Not sure if its due to fitness levels or something else. Wouldn't be suprised to see him get a week off this week. I also think it's between Heppell, Smith and Shuey. Still half a season to go so Shuey should win as you'd...

David easily. Andrew is overrated.

At this stage - Murphy would be on about 10 brownlow votes Pendlebury about 9 Selwood about 12

Shuey will be the next Judd

Pendlebury is probably the best player however like they said come finals times a key forward can win a team games more than a midfielder can. Even Dale Thomas is more of an x factor than Pendlebury and he can win more games for his team than Pendles can IMO. Also Xavier Ellis picked ahead of...

Stealing this from one week at a time. Who would you take if you could get any of these players for free right now.

How old are you juniortiger? You need to do some research before creating threads like this. Leaders atm are Judd, Murphy, Pendlebury, Swan, Watson, Mundy, Fyfe, Sandilands, Selwood, Bartel, Goodes, Jude Bolton, Boyd, Cox. Put those names in the poll and it will be a good thread.

I think WC will win 13 or 14 games this season which should put them 5th?6th? Think Essendon will win 11-12 games and Freo about the same.

How so? Thread was made a couple of weeks ago and Smorgon said the Dogs had to at least make the grand final for Eade to be safe. They wont even make the 8 so how can he still be there?

Bump I still stand by my claim of round 11.

You can't judge Naitanui by stats. Half of his influence in games is the way he taps the ball on or pushes past 2 players to create a path for his team mate. Yes his kicking needs work but if he gets it right he will be unstoppable, he has everything else in his game.

Hudson has had a servicable career but he's one of the worst 1st choice ruckmen in the league make no mistake.