Competition "What If" Wednesdays - Time Traveller Sneezes Edition: Week 2 - South Melbourne stay in Victoria. Sydney enter as separate team

[cannavo]

Welcome to ...

Marty McFly has done himself a mischief and has altered the course of Aussie footy in ways you can't imagine!
Get ready to dive into alternate futures!​

What is “What If” Wednesdays?
"What if" Wednesdays was a competition comprised of real-life football team proposals, merger propositions, former teams and a few hypotheticals brought to life by the FJGD community (eg. If the Melbourne-Hawthorn merger went ahead, if University/Fitzroy/Bris Bears stuck around, if Gold Coasts nickname were the Lifesavers etc.) it became this boards longest running competition (8/9/14 – 29/5/19). It has been revived under a meme cultured spin-off! Time traveller sneezes memes are all about butterfly effects on various things caused by a time traveller altering the past by means of a simple sneeze.


What’s new this time around?
This time or these times around, we will be flung into various timelines where our universes former teams, mergers, relocation proposals never existed or had its outcome altered slightly or severely! The list below is comprised of alternate timelines and the butterfly effect caused by our cheeky time traveller. Your job is to envision this outcome! Each comp will run for 1 week and the poll will run for 3 days. The winner picks the next team from the list below or can use their one-time self-imposed idea where they put forward an idea not listed below.

There are some routes you can go by if you're stuck:

• The chosen team has entered their designated competition in the current year (unless specified) along with the current teams OR
• If a year is not specified, you may design kits at any point in time OR
• Accompany your kits with a backstory on how the team came to be to help better envision the outcome

Bare minimum for an entry is:

• A home kit with the front of the jumper showing
  (Back, shorts, socks are optional)
• OPTIONAL Away kit (Home with white shorts is acceptable)
• OPTIONAL 3rd kit
  • Clash kit
  • Heritage kit
  • Other kit
• OPTIONAL Club Logo (Highly Encouraged!)

Let’s see what has happened this time

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Our Timeline: South Melbourne move to Sydney in 1982
Altered Timeline: South Melbourne stay in Victoria and Sydney enter the VFL as their own team in 1982​

Basic Rules (Read Carefully):

1. Kits and Logo must be in 1 picture (Makes polls easier to fit everything in)
2. The kits can consist of just a Jumper (Shorts and socks are encouraged to give a full identity effect)
3. Minimum 1 kit and there's no limit to how many kits you can include after that
   eg. Home and Away and/or Clash and/or Heritage and/or Others
   1. Designing a Home and away/clash kit is highly encouraged for that authentic feel and to develop that alternate universe experience
4. Attempt to stay close to the altered timeline
5. Directly copying current football team kits/logos are not allowed
6. Creating a logo is encouraged but you may take inspiration from and/or alter any existing sports logo to drive home your design.
7. Maximum 2 entries per person
8. Any questions at all, please ask!

Specific Category Rules:

New Teams Rule:

1. There are no restrictions. Well, the only thing I ask is there be no recolours of currently existing kits involving the team (where applicable)
   1. Variants are allowed

Alternate timeline categories
Bold - Completed with poll results

Mergers

• Melbourne and St Kilda merged - 1995
• Tasmania - Fitzroy Merger
• Sydney - Fitzroy Merger
• Gold Coast Suns seek merger with Sharks to stay alive
• Fitzroy merge with Brisbane to become the Fitzroy Bears
• Tasmania agree to merger with North Melbourne

Relocations

• Saints relocate to NZ
• Essendon relocates to NT to become Alice Springs
• Hawthorn relocates to Canberra
• Fitzroy relocates to Canberra
• Fitzroy move to Brisbane in the 80s (Prior to the Bears existing)
• South Melbourne relocate to Tasmania
• South Melbourne relocate to Canberra
• Fitzroy complete move to North Sydney - 1980
• Footscray relocate to Queensland - 1981

League transfers

• West Coast Eagles enter the SANFL
• Brisbane Bears enter the SANFL
• Fitzroy to the SANFL - 1981
• Footscray to the SANFL - 1981
• Adelaide Uni to the SANFL - 1991 (cannot use only black and white)
• Collingwood to the SANFL - 1997
• East Perth to the VFL - 1980
• Norwood accepted as the 2nd SA team in the AFL
• Launceston apply for the AFL
• Essendon apply for the WAFL

New Teams

• Port Adelaide crows join the AFL - 1991
• Papua New Guinea enter the AFL
• Mount Gambier join the SANFL
• Limestone Coast join the SANFL
• Sydney enter as a separate team (Bloods stay in Vic)
• Darwin join the AFL - 1991
• Public Service Football Club join the VFL
• Gold Coast fold, new North Queensland team take their place - 2030
• NZ enter 90's State of Origin
• Broome become the 2nd WA AFL team
• Gold Coast hijack Brisbane Bears AFL entry - 1986

Colour Corner

• West Coast Eagles VFL kits altered due to Williamstown sharing the same colours
• GWS keep their 'Team GWS' colours
• Port Adelaide retain their Magenta
• Adelaide's hurried concept
  (Adelaide board hastily attain clothes from local sport store and use the 5 colours to design their new AFL team)

Specials

• Hawthorn release Ochre jumper - 2000
• Skittle's sponsor Essendon and release special guernsey
• Heidelberg Warriors align with Collingwood for 1 season - 1996
• Melbourne remain as The Fuchsias
• Melbourne remain as The Invincible Whites
• Collingwood remain as Brittania

 

[BigChippa52]

So South has to have the nickname Bloods despite having the swan name before the move?

 

[1990crow]

So South has to have the nickname Bloods despite having the swan name before the move?

Don't think that's specified as a requirement.

 

[cannavo]

So South has to have the nickname Bloods despite having the swan name before the move?

South Melbourne remain as is with both the Swans and Bloods monikers (Swans being the official one). I've always had a habit of referring to South Melbourne as the bloods, so that explains why I put that in the faux news pop-up instead of Swans

 

[BigChippa52]

I'm struggling with the Sydney design but have a set of colours and name ready to go

 

[cannavo]

After South Melbourne reports their 5th consecutive $150k dollar loss in 1980, a push for a move to Sydney was looking more likely with each passing day. When the VFL rescinded such a proposition, the South board reached out to their supporters and over the next 2 years, they banded together to contribute to the greatest footy charity campaign and kept the Bloods down south. With some recent success in crowd numbers for exhibition games in Sydney, the urge to put NSW on the footy map was stronger than ever. And thus, the Sydney Mariners were born and entered the VFL in 1982. The name Mariners was chosen to honour the maritime origins of New South Wales. The use of light blue linking to their traditional state colours and the sea, Red from the Badge of NSW and navy to complement the colour scheme. The star comes from the Badge of NSW and to avoid confusion with Fitzroy, the usual 'Lion in the south' that sits in the middle of the badge was replaced by a navy 8-point star which is featured on the jumper

 

[BigChippa52]

It was the year 1980 and the South Melbourne football club was struggling, and the AFL was keen to move a team into rugby territory, with good incentives the swans were keen for this idea but the fans wouldn't have it so they started the take flight campaign raising enough money for the swans to stay in Melbourne, with money not being an issue anymore the swans found more ways to increase income becoming one of the richest clubs in the AFL despite this they still struggled to find much success with players like tony lockett

Tony Lockett

Age

58

Ht

191cm

Wt

108kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.2

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

1.8

2star

M

6.3

5star

T

0.5

3star

G

4.8

5star

No current season stats available

D

8.2

2star

K

5.6

3star

HB

2.6

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.4

5star

and others having their time at the club, this boosted the swans to premiership contention but they weren't strong enough to beat the roos it wouldn't be until 2022 until a premiership flag was raised in the south

 

[BigChippa52]

The AFL still wanted a team in Sydney, so they made it happen in 1982 by berthing the Sydney Kookaburras with the double blue and traditional chevrons used by the state, at first the Burras struggled to gain interest and support, but with strong funding, they managed to lure stars such as Lance Franklin, Dustin martin and and many more to NSW and by the year 2019 the burras won their first premiership and now own Sydney being its biggest sporting team and over taking rugby in the state

 

[cannavo]

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It was the year 1980 and the South Melbourne football club was struggling, and the AFL was keen to move a team into rugby territory, with good incentives the swans were keen for this idea but the fans wouldn't have it so they started the take flight campaign raising enough money for the swans to stay in Melbourne, with money not being an issue anymore the swans found more ways to increase income becoming one of the richest clubs in the AFL despite this they still struggled to find much success with players like tony lockett and others having their time at the club, this boosted the swans to premiership contention but they weren't strong enough to beat the roos it wouldn't be until 2022 until a premiership flag was raised in the south

View attachment 1874832
The AFL still wanted a team in Sydney, so they made it happen in 1982 by berthing the Sydney Kookaburras with the double blue and traditional chevrons used by the state, at first the Burras struggled to gain interest and support, but with strong funding, they managed to lure stars such as Lance Franklin, Dustin martin and and many more to NSW and by the year 2019 the burras won their first premiership and now own Sydney being its biggest sporting team and over taking rugby in the state

The idea behind this weeks competition was to design just for Sydney but I have to say, I welcome the effort in recreating both respective teams

 

[BigChippa52]

The idea behind this weeks competition was to design just for Sydney but I have to say, I welcome the effort in recreating both respective teams

sorry I was going to ask that, I was keen to do both, but I really like what I did with the Sydney branding, I was also thinking of celtics , wolves or making GWS or the Bears the Sydney team

 

[troybe]

 

[_Damo_]

cannavo sorry I mate, I didn't realise you'd also used Mariners!

My thinking was that South Melbourne would eventually make a Collingwood style inverse jumper, moving away from white, and that Sydney would, whether by natural growth or design, become a blue bloods team for blue bloods. The opera house is too strong a symbol not to use btw.

 

[BigChippa52]

I tried to find a way to put the opera house in my design but it just didn't work Unfortunately

 

[Mac Ropod]

 

[1990crow]

The year is 1981. Paramatta has won the 1981 NSW Rugby League championship.
The VFL is looking to expand into NSW. A taskforce is created for the proposal to enter a team in Sydney.
With the success of the Eels and growing popularity, the taskforce wanted to attract rugby fans across to ensure attendance to the games.
To do this, they decided they might attract rugby fans attention by adopting the popular Eels jersey design and colours. To further capture the attention of NSW fans and identity, they also decided the harbour bridge would form part of the design in the traditional sky blue.

Accordingly, the above design was adopted.
(In this world West Coast don't exist)

 

[uranium_death]

"Sydney Convicts" sounds awesome
Club song can be to "Botany Bay"

 

[Haymo_of_thor]

In 1982 the VFL invited investors to create an expansion team based in NSW, Sydney in Particular. One portfolio backed by the NSW State Government, the Waverly Municipality Council, and NSWRL was chosen, and thus the Sydney VFL team was born. Known by a nickname previously used by St Kilda, the Seagulls were an obvious choice for a team that played just minutes away from the picturesque Bondi Beach. The Gulls played their inaugural season in 1984 wearing a Guernsey that utilized NSW Blue, White, and Yellow to symbolise the spectacular beaches in Sydney's eastern suburbs, the Seagulls were heavily endorsed by NSW beer brand, and NSWRL sponsor, Tooheys. The team ran out in round 1 1984 in front of 8,000 eager fans and got belted by Hawthorn (57pts). It wasn't until round 7 that the East Sydney Seagulls (a name that was later changed to include all Sydneysiders) beat Geelong by 7 points, did Sydney experience a VFL win.

 

[1990crow]

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In 1982 the VFL invited investors to create an expansion team based in NSW, Sydney in Particular. One portfolio backed by the NSW State Government, the Waverly Municipality Council, and NSWRL was chosen, and thus the Sydney VFL team was born. Known by a nickname previously used by St Kilda, the Seagulls were an obvious choice for a team that played just minutes away from the picturesque Bondi Beach. The Gulls played their inaugural season in 1984 wearing a Guernsey that utilized NSW Blue, White, and Yellow to symbolise the spectacular beaches in Sydney's eastern suburbs, the Seagulls were heavily endorsed by NSW beer brand, and NSWRL sponsor, Tooheys. The team ran out in round 1 1984 in front of 8,000 eager fans and got belted by Hawthorn (57pts). It wasn't until round 7 that the East Sydney Seagulls (a name that was later changed to include all Sydneysiders) beat Geelong by 7 points, did Sydney experience a VFL win.

Nice