Thanks for your reply. You did not, regrettably, answer any of my 3 questions. Worse, you did not even correct my understanding. Perhaps you would like another go, demonstrating you are actually interested in informed discussion. No?
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Thanks for your reply. You did not, regrettably, answer any of my 3 questions. Worse, you did not even correct my understanding. Perhaps you would like another go, demonstrating you are actually interested in informed discussion. No?
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I think informed discussion is against the rules of this board
Your every post is evidence of your opinion.
All players sign up to the AFL's anti-doping rules as part of their standard player contracts. The AFL anti-doping rules require players to co-operate in any anti-doping investigation without any right to silence and also permit the AFL to share information with ASADA without consideration to protection of the player's privacy. Those provisions are express in the AFL rules.
Crankyhawk
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I thought ACCC was unable to tell anyone anything (partly why danks talk to ACCC is not accessible). Makes it really useful - ACCC massive powers but doesn't do s**t with it that is any bloody use.
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so much irony.
EFC ran a program that wasn't nearly as bad as it has been made out to be in the press.
That program, run between Nov 11 and May 12 may or may not have involved a substance that was classified as wada banned (rightly or wrongly) somewhere between Jun 11 and Mar 12.
To this point there is no conclusive proof that anything banned was used and yet the entire football watching public has labelled 34 footballers who had no way of knowing as drug cheats for the last 18 months. 12 of those footballers have been named in the paper.
There is still a strong chance that no banned substances were taken at all and the person who knows has testified to this fact under oath and threat of jail (a far greater punishment than he would be given for doping).
The head coach of the club has also been labelled as a cheat, had his kids bullied at school and had his business prospects in melbourne tarnished forever.
They might be guilty, but we don't know yet. And THAT is why privacy in anti doping is PARAMOUNT.
One too many C's
As I understand, ASADA can see the report, but can't use it, they are forced to regather the information via their 'powers' and interviews etc.
It's kind of point them in the right directions, iirc.
Actually, THAT is why it is important not to dope.
Crankyhawk
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The third C is for "clusterf**k"
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Better read up on importation arrests over the last 12 months.
Information gathered is now getting results.
Just not the result most footy fans want.
The fact that nobody, particularly at EFC can say with any degree of certainty that no banned substances were used completely proves my point. The AFL Anti-Doping policy requires every club to be able to do just that. Your club has failed in its very important responsibilities and yet, you continue to attack everybody but those responsible. You cite the need for privacy while ignoring the fact that EFC have conducted an ongoing public campaign to try and discredit the investigation onto their failures but oh no it's all ASADA's fault that EFC made all that noise.
ASADA hasn't named anybody. Yet its all their fault.
You continue the trend made famous at EFC, nobody there is responsible...for anything.
Tell you what, if you really believe that this should all be conducted quietly, with no publicity to protect the coaches and players, tell your club to stop talking to the press and giving this airtime.
Or go back to blaming ASADA for the comments made by Little, Hird, Thompson, Reid etc
Crankyhawk
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Then maybe it's just not being published (and that could be for operational reasons too)
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not as bad???
my dear fellow, it was the blackest day in Australian sport!
Government ministers came together to tell the nation that we had reached an all time low
they promised to fight the cheats!!
we collectively hung our heads in shame
the ACC had rightly categorised the AFL along the likes of body builders and anti-aging clinics
oh the shame of it all
That is about statement 10,000 of yours stating that everyman and his dog is blaming ASADA for everything and TBH I haven't seen anywhere near the same amount of posts blaming ASADA for anything.
Do you work for ASADA, you are extremely, extremely defensive of them ?.
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That's why not doping is paramount
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I call at the time of the first round of SCNs, McDevitt giving one presser after another about them
You're trying to have it both ways.
The supplements program at Essendon might be as bad it has been made out to be, just that the evidence hasn't been publicly released, yet. The reason it has not been publicly released yet is to protect the privacy of the 34 players. Lack of public release of the evidence does not amount to a lack of evidence.
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Nah more likely it was a leak at Essendon or AFL.
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Didn't you post that link the other day?
You are being naughty now GG!
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at our age, we can barely remember what we did 5 minutes ago
let alone what we may have done yesterday
True. I train my memory by remembering the last time I had sex.
Long term memory seems to be better than short term in us old ducks!
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