Collingwood’s Josh Thomas, Lachie Keeffe accept two-year bans for taking banned drug clenbuterol

[peppy la pew]

But didn't Wayson say he was aware he was getting Thymosin, and that there was a "good one" and a "bad one"?

I thought the Watson interview was in relation to AOD, prior to the Weages game.

 

[Ashton Agar]

I actually struggle to get my head around the fact that people think that then makes what happened okay

Not saying anything like that, just saying our players aren't necessarily 2 year bans if found guilty.

 

[theboxmike]

Good grief.

The drink is legal, as per the post you're quoting.

And there's no test for tb4.

I thought it was AOD that the media were for sure was banned and ASADA were looking for?

 

[Off The Couch]

Not saying anything like that, just saying our players aren't necessarily 2 year bans if found guilty.

Should be 2 years for stupidity alone. Anyway we will maybe all a little wiser this time tomorrow

 

[Ashton Agar]

So you're willing to make 2 stupid comments on a comment rather than read it once?

The drink is legal. You can walk in to a shop and buy it. You won't get arrested for buying it.

What does that have to do with anything? Saad consumed it on a day it was illegal for him to do so, so it's not like he was doing something legal, as was being made out.

 

[Duckworth]

Yeah I love that you're trying to "school" me on team penalties. I take it you haven't been around these boards much. It's kind of a hobby horse of mine.

You'll notice I never mentioned mandatory team disqualification

Interesting that the WADA boss has come out and supported the application of the WADA code for team sports. Maybe he was preparing the public for this case

 

[onemancyclone]

What does that have to do with anything? Saad consumed it on a day it was illegal for him to do so, so it's not like he was doing something legal, as was being made out.

You've now commented 3 times rather than suffer the indignity of READING the post you're replying to.

Eagerly awaiting your 4th.

 

[Bongo Drum]

Who are you?

I haven't see you post here before?

AHAHAHA

I'm only up to page 17 but Reality Rules is cracking me up with these posts!

 

[efcboy]

So you're willing to make 2 stupid comments on a comment rather than read it once?

The drink is legal. You can walk in to a shop and buy it. You won't get arrested for buying it.

Yeah and so is sudafed but you can't take either on match day. Players are required to run everything they take (powders, pills, energy drinks) through the club to avoid this situation

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I thought the Watson interview was in relation to AOD, prior to the Weages game.

It was, but I think he also said he was aware of the good and bad Thymosin.

 

[Purple Suit]

Regardless of what comes of these 2 young men, Collingwood have brought the game into disrepute and for this reason they should be banned from the finals, banned from the first 2 rounds of the draft for the first two seasons and a hefty fine.

I don't think banning them from the finals will be much of a punishment this year.

 

[efcboy]

I thought the Watson interview was in relation to AOD, prior to the Weages game.

I was referring to Watson's interview with ASADA (not the publicly broadcast interview on fox footy)

 

[Armchair Critic]

More than 2, might want to brush up on your code knowledge
And there's no requirement for team disqualification

Read here and consider yourself educated:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/collingwood-pair-test-positive.1091485/page-38#post-37651707

The only issue is that you are wrong

http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL Tenant/AFL/Files/AFL Anti-Doping Code 2015 FINAL.pdf

25. Consequences to Teams Where more than one Player from a Club has been notified of a possible Anti-Doping Rule Violation in any one season, the Club shall be subject to Target Testing for the remainder of the season. If more than one Player in a Club is found to have committed an Anti-Doping Rule Violation during a season, the Club may be subject to sanctions to be determined, in their absolute discretion, by the Commission.

 

[nineteen eighty]

What's hilarious for me in this thread is the number of EFC supporters gloating that Hird was right about other clubs doing it. As if that makes it all ok now.

You're a strange mob given that most of you gloating are adults...and many of you mature adults.

 

[andrewb]

Well done to Collingwood, particularly Gary Pert and Nick Maxwell, in coming out strongly once this story broke.

Essentially they will sit in the background and allow ASADA to investigate the situation properly, which is great, considering that's exactly what ASADA is meant to do. In the mean time though, they will help Keefe and Thomas pursue any legal avenues they wish to, however they will only HELP them, not guide them, as it isn't the club's place to do so.

I know it's hard to compare this situation with the Essendon one, but I just wish that we had handled the situation as well as Collingwood have. I know this story is only in its infancy, but Collingwood supporters should be proud of their club's actions up to this point.

Hahaha I was stoked with the way that we handled ours as well for the first six weeks. Go on boys, cooperate with the investigators, we've got you covered.

 

[Spook]

Can they read and write?
Have they received drug education?
If the b sample confirms the a sample, they should receive a 4 year ban.
I have no sympathy.
Stop using the dumb footballer excuse.

I agree. I work in the Oil & Gas Industry as a contractor. Even though I am Project office based in a major city and not on site or in fabrication yard, I signed off on a drug and alcohol policy. This was after an induction where it was all explained. Not performance enhancing but much the same; If I have a couple of tokes on a joint on a Saturday night and then have a positive test at work after being randomly selected on the Monday I am walked out of the office and sacked effective immediately. No excuses, I read the policy, signed it and took the good money. My self and many other workers in Australia and around the world work under these rules with a lot less education and for some, less money. I have NO sympathy.

 

[Purple Suit]

Where are Keffee and Thomas from?? Queensland.

A couple of weeks ago there was a story on 7.30 story about Queensland outlaw motorcycle gangs supplying illegal - not just banned from sports, but illegal - PEDs. Coincidence?? From the 7.30 transcript and you can watch the story at the link

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2015/s4194226.htm
LEIGH SALES, PRESENTER: Police and health experts are warning of an explosion in the use of illegal performance-enhancing steroids. Anabolic steroids have long been used by athletes and body builders, but increasingly they're being peddled to school-aged boys. Like any user, they risk severe side effects, including an increased risk of prostate cancer, stroke, heart attack and depression.

In the last six months of last year, Customs intercepted 3,000 steroid shipments arriving in Australia. The centre of the steroid business is Queensland's Gold Coast, where police claim outlaw motorcycle gangs are muscling in on the trade. 7.30 has been given exclusive access to raids carried out by Queensland's anti-bikie Taskforce Maxima in a major crackdown on steroid traffickers.

Mark Willacy has this report.

......

MARK WILLACY: According to police, outlaw bikie gangs are increasingly muscling their way into the steroid trade, often ordering the drugs on overseas internet sites and having them shipped right to their door.

These parcels were delivered to a home near Brisbane as it was being raided by police looking for steroids. The packages had come all the way from China, which along with Thailand is seen as a major source of steroids and human growth hormone.

Inside the packages are pills and vials of steroids, including Clenbuterol. It's known as a "shredder" because it burns off fat cells and increases strength. It's one of the steroids that last year was listed as a Schedule One dangerous drug.

MICK NILAND: Which means it's in the same rankings as heroin, cocaine and methamphetamine. So possession of these drugs can carry a term of 15 years' imprisonment and trafficking in these dangerous drugs, the steroids, can carry up to 25 years' imprisonment.

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2015/s4194226.htm

Hmmm, There are also unsolved Murders in Queensland too....

 

[efcboy]

It was, but I think he also said he was aware of the good and bad Thymosin.

That was part of the interview - good and bad thymosin. He then expanded saying he received good thymosin as in thymomodulin and saw the vial labelled as such. Referenced the photo from dean wallis showing a vial labelled thymomodulin

 

[Full Wingspan]

That was part of the interview - good and bad thymosin. He then expanded saying he received good thymosin as in thymomodulin and saw the vial labelled as such. Referenced the photo from dean wallis showing a vial labelled thymomodulin

This one?

 

[Duckworth]

What's hilarious for me in this thread is the number of EFC supporters gloating that Hird was right about other clubs doing it. As if that makes it all ok now.

You're a strange mob given that most of you gloating are adults...and many of you mature adults.

Not sure where all of that is coming from. I would have though that the case with the Collingwood guys has more in common with the Saad case than what went on at EFC.

 

[Tiger2709]

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Skyhooks – Smut

 

[efcboy]

What's hilarious for me in this thread is the number of EFC supporters gloating that Hird was right about other clubs doing it. As if that makes it all ok now.

You're a strange mob given that most of you gloating are adults...and many of you mature adults.

I'd say that's a very small minority - the pragmatic fans realise Hird's texts were back in 2012 and unless his surname is McFly he couldn't have predicted what happened in 2015.

 

[Son of Skeletor]

No, I'm commenting on the general use of stupidity as an excuse.

...

They should both get 4 years:
2 years for taking the drug and
2 years for stupidity

When are people going to stop using the excuse of stupidity?

You don't hear this excuse used in athletics.

So you think these 2 f-wits are clever?

Can they read and write?
Have they received drug education?
If the b sample confirms the a sample, they should receive a 4 year ban.
I have no sympathy.
Stop using the dumb footballer excuse.

 

[Funk]

Where have you been all these years Dan? To think that you are gracing us only now with a sense of humour that one can't buy.

Don't worry - by tomorrow the scoreline could look like Socceroos v American Samoa!!

Essendon 17
Port 2
Collingwood 2
Bulldogs 1

 

[peppy la pew]

It was, but I think he also said he was aware of the good and bad Thymosin.

I was referring to Watson's interview with ASADA (not the publicly broadcast interview on fox footy)

Sweet, I was referring to the Fox interview.

So he has fessed up twice, gotta give him brownie points for that.