Bluemour Discussion Thread VI (cont. in Part VII)

[Jootube]

Can't see Cripps leaving unless he has decided he hates Carlton which is doubtful since it is expected he will be named VC if not Captain for 2018.

Totally correct. Whole conversation is moot if Cripps is happy where he is (and it seems he is)

 

[passmark]

what's he like in mud?

His mother was a mudder.

 

[Espio]

His mother was a mudder.

His Father was a mudder.

 

[blue healer]

Gaff is not worth Pick 10-13, he is more late first to early second. Bit of icing on the cake but no match winner

You jest. Reckon SOS would walk through a brick wall to get Gaff for an early second rounder and most of our supporters would break it down to ensure he got through.

 

[TooBlue14]

Gaff, 2017 1st and 2018 1st.

Would Cripps be on the next flight to Perth?

Edit: Before you reactionary scoffing... consider that Danger was traded for a 1st+2nd+Fringe Player.

Dangerfield was also uncontracted.

 

[SHOWEY]

You jest. Reckon SOS would walk through a brick wall to get Gaff for an early second rounder and most of our supporters would break it down to ensure he got through.

if I could get gaff for a 2nd rounder I would go back to WA and pick him up myself.

 

[slashin_velvet]

*Assuming Carlton 2018 2nd is ~pick22 and WCE 2018 1st is ~pick10

Cripps + 2018 2nd (~22) FOR Gaff + 13 + 2018 1st (~10)
Surely we're in the ballpark?

Edit: It would be similar to the Dangerfield trade, except Gaff in place of Gore. Obviously a much better deal, due to Cripps' age and contract status.

If Cripps requested a trade to Perth, i'd do it. But I also think West Coast would fall a lot lower than 9th next season - Lose Mitchell, Priddis & Gaff and gain Cripps & Nic Nat? Only just made finals this season.

If we finish higher & they finish lower it could be Gaff + 13 + 5 for Cripps + 25.

If we got Rockliff, Kennedy, Smith, Gaff, Balic, pick 3 and future pick 5 and lost Cripps, Gibbs & Boek would we have improved?

 

[RoyalParade]

Pointless to even discuss a Cripps trade as it won't happen, just a waste of time.

Correct

 

[Treesloth]

Anyone entertaining the notion of a Cripps trade can take a good, hard look at themselves.

He'll be the best inside mid for the next 10
years. Not happening.

 

[blue healer]

if I could get gaff for a 2nd rounder I would go back to WA and pick him up myself.

Road trip. Let's make it a convoy.

 

[Treesloth]

Gibbs for 10 and 27.
10 for Kennedy and 27 for Smith.
Rocky as FA.
Pick best mid at 3.

We lose BG but get Kennedy, Smith, Rocky and beat mid at 3.

Everyone goes home a winner.

Can get Kennedy and Smith more cheaply than that.

Just offer a future 2nd rounder and some later picks. No way should we be parting with pick 10 in that deal.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Can get Kennedy and Smith more cheaply than that.

Just offer a future 2nd rounder and some later picks. No way should we be parting with pick 10 in that deal.

Please post more often.

 

[BringBackSimmo]

Please post more often.

Especially if he can negotiate that

 

[bmaurizio]

Can get Kennedy and Smith more cheaply than that.

Just offer a future 2nd rounder and some later picks. No way should we be parting with pick 10 in that deal.

Spot on no way would we part worth pick 10 for an uncontracted Matt Kennedy.
Your offer is acceptable and realistic.

 

[thylacine60]

Road trip. Let's make it a convoy.

Yes sir, Breaker One-Nine, this here's the Rubber Duck, do you copy, over.

 

[passmark]

Yes sir, Breaker One-Nine, this here's the Rubber Duck, do you copy, over.

A low point in both music and film.

 

[blue healer]

Yes sir, Breaker One-Nine, this here's the Rubber Duck, do you copy, over.

There's a bear in there. Oops wrong show?

 

[Kismet]

Yes sir, Breaker One-Nine, this here's the Rubber Duck, do you copy, over.

Now I can't get the song out of my head.

Bastard.

 

[Coops93]

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(Treloar 2015 Trade)
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(Dangerfield 2015 Trade)
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*Assuming Carlton 2018 2nd is ~pick22 and WCE 2018 1st is ~pick10

Cripps + 2018 2nd (~22) FOR Gaff + 13 + 2018 1st (~10)
Surely we're in the ballpark?

Edit: It would be similar to the Dangerfield trade, except Gaff in place of Gore. Obviously a much better deal, due to Cripps' age and contract status.

That's probably about fair. Although I'd say unless Cripps asks to be traded Carlton would day no to all offers (within reason, it would take a ridiculous offer).

 

[TooBlue14]

Gibbs for 10 and 27.
10 for Kennedy and 27 for Smith.
Rocky as FA.
Pick best mid at 3.

We lose BG but get Kennedy, Smith, Rocky and beat mid at 3.

Everyone goes home a winner.

Not great. Can't be paying a top 10 pick for an uncontracted player and a mid second for an injury prone 25 year old. 10 gets both easy if not 27 does. I'd take 3 (LDU) and 10 (Stephenson/Higgins/Fogarty/heck there will be heaps to choose from at 10 better than Kennedy). Next years second gets both.

 

[thylacine60]

Now I can't get the song out of my head.

Bastard.

Big 10-4. Keep your eyes and ears open and your black stack smoking.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Even using Danger as a yard stick, we're giving up 6+Gaff as opposed to 6+Gore. Pretty noticeable difference imo.

Assuming Gaff is worth between picks 10-13, Gaff+6 ends up being worth a little over pick 1.

The trade would boil down to Pick 1 (equiv) for P.Cripps.

s**t mate, why didn't you say that it adds up to pick 1?
Actually, wouldn't it be better if you gave us half a dozen 3rd rounders that add up to #1? That way we can replace Cripps with 6 players and the way that SOS recruits, it would be as good as 6 first rounders.
I'm actually agreeing with you on the worth, so I'm not sure why you want to keep arguing the point. All I'm saying is that personally I wouldn't trade him for twice that and that there are extenuating circumstances that make a comparison between Cripps' worth and Danger's a false comparison.

 

[Soapy V]

Rockliff as DFA
Kennedy/Smith for 2018 second round
Balic for 4th round or Boekhurst
Lang for 38

Keep Pick 3 and anything we get for Gibbs

 

[HBF]

Cripps will make a great captain/vice-captain at this football club for the next 10 years.

He and Byrne are inseparable.

Unbelievable work ethic, determination and character.

Thanks Rogers.

One of the few things Rogers actually got right.

 

[zeeCFC]

Kennedy and Smith for a 2018 second rounder?