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But we rushed back Lynch and Martin and they were ... oh.

Some rough comments on Mansell in here. The miss was bad, but he should never have been put straight in after four weeks out with no match practice at all. He ran his arse off and played a huge role in stopping their rebound - he would have been completely spent.

Did he actually play mid, or mainly forward? I would like to see Baker back, and then either Bolton or Rioli as a sweeper for all centre clearances. We desperately need an injection of pace in our midfield for both offence and defence, and Bolton and Rioli are the only players that seem to have it.

Grigga wasn't slow, he ran a 2.92 sec 20m sprint at the combine (same as Dangerfield). Ever see him get run down?

Agreed. And if he's the right man for the job, he'll be able to tell when to stick with something and when to abandon it.

Shai forward is a mistake - he's our best and most dynamic mid and can go missing forward.

Why is he doing a podcast with a real estate company? 🤔

That was one of the worst midfields in the league last year...

He's too slow to tag most players. It worked on Sloane, but everyone else we tried him on who had any pace just burnt him off. He also can't play midfield alongside TT and Hopper, because then the entire midfield is too slow.

Not a great trade. Should be our #1 ruckman.

I am proud to barrack for a club that supports the Aboriginal people of Australia, both within its doors and more broadly.

I think he got sacked for taking it to second last, a bit lower than 'not taking to finals'...

I actually think he's better forward without Lynch, as the no 1 key forward. He's not smart enough to find space and make leads as the second or third tall, and often ends up in the wrong spot. When he's the no 1 option and can stand in the square with people just kicking it to him regardless...

Injured.

Gibcus kicked a lot of turnovers last year. Long kick, buy not that accurate. Apart from early nerves Young has been a pretty good kick.

Remember in 2016 when everybody said he needed to lose the captaincy and was one of the worst captains in the league? External perceptions really mean nothing.

Didn't mind him. Not sure why we essentially debuted him off 5 weeks of no footy, but while his marks and kicks didn't quite come off he was generally close enough that there appeared to be something to work with.

We whiffed the sub - not only did taking Miller off and shifting Balta forward absolutely open up our defence, but it brought their intercept markers into the game and got us beaten in backup ruck contests.

Played mainly as a forward for St Mary's I believe.

Interesting to see Balta training in the ruck today - might be shifting forward / second ruck?

Just quietly, how about the ability and composure of Baker to spin out of a tackle and hit a free player in a second from the middle of congestion...

Shoo in for rising star.

I like him - needs to improve some things, particularly in terms of workrate and staying involved in the game, but he looks like an AFL level footballer. Strong, fast, good hands, great ball handling.

#cumforcumbo

Anyone notice he played a bit more as a leading forward last week? Great use of him, given his sticky mitts and pretty good pace.

Impact player. Highest disposal count by time on ground in the league.

Got better as the game went on. Just looked nervous and panicky - but that's not normally him, so leave him in unless short is coming back.

Not great, but better than every other forward so far...

That's not court mate.

I think what Morris said is much worse...