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Culture? We have everybody on our list signed up for long term. Culture is great. Depth? This takes time. We’ve had no depth in the midfield and KP for a very long time. That’s being rectified. Lack of talent? Most in the football industry would put our kids in the conversation of the best...

You asked for my opinion. I rate these players higher than players on your list. I’d argue that if you reverse the question who would we arguably pick from your list to play in front of our players. The kids we have like Weitering Marchbank Curnow Dow O’Brien McKay SPS Williamson we would play...

I totally agree. But he’s had a poor 2018 hence why he should be cheaper but then of course he’s comtracted. His injury troubles could easily make him a bust if he gets to us for what you guys want pick 8-12. Thus we will offer something equivalent to 16-19 imo. The rumour around being forced to...

Curnow Marchbank Weitering Jones Cripps Dow Fisher Thomas Kruezer Simpson Murphy Wright Docherty McGovern Shiel

Yes I am. Hence why I’m trying to help you with this matter. But let’s get back to why it was brought up in the first place. Saints have played in two GFs this decade.

Did you watch Carlton v Adelaide in 2017 when we had nearly our full list. The only difference is Gibbs. You guys played in a GF that year. I’d nearly bet you that we are every chance beating you in Melb in 2019.

Age, injuries, lack of on field leadership, synergy, coaching to a game plan. Are all reasons why we came last. All these things can and are being rectified. And all are linked. When one improves others improve. Adding MM won’t change a lot of that but adding him to Curnow, McKay should atleast...

Hopefully he can make some friends at Carlton. There could be many reasons why he didn’t have any friends. Are you suggesting he’s notbtryinh or he’s unliked due to something in his character or something he’s done.

Educating.

Yes. We stripped it right back. Had the most injuries out of all afl clubs in 2018 to go along with that. I read above one of your group suggesting injuries as a reason.

It began on January 1, 2010, and it will end on December 31, 2019. It is the current decade.

Nope they go from 0 to 9. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010s

I didn’t realise you were from the future. Didn’t you just say the next 100 years. Tell me which year it occurred I’ll put a bet on.

Ditto.

I was wrong with GC and Melb actually. Both won over 2 games recently.

I’m confused are you admitting your wrong as 2010 is in this decade?

Syd 93 1 win Fitzroy 95 96 1 then 2 wins Saints 2000 1 win Freo 2001 2 wins GWS 2012 and 2013 2 wins and 1 win Carlton 2018 2 wins.

Maybe you should. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010s

I’m pretty sure GC and GWS and Melb had worst years or equal to.

2010 doesn’t count. That’s the first year of this decade I do believe.

Untrue. It’s carltons worst season since 1901. Plenty of teams been worse since.

Unless he’s actually telling the truth. I know all on here hate hearing this but maybe your club ****ed up. It happens. I’m sure MM is not the only one thinking it. Next week all will be revealed with how many start requesting trades.

We haven’t made any mistakes imo in this new regime. The club is building fine. We can’t expect all we pick up to turn into superstars like Cripps, Curnow and docherty. We’ve got more AA running around now in a side that came last. We are in such a better position now than 5 years ago it’s...

I’m not here to convince you. You’re not convincing me. This is supposed to be about our future forward McGovern. Let’s talk about him. Pick 25 and Shane Mcadam??

Saints have played in more GFs this decade than Adelaide. I’d love to be in that position.

The first plan was held up by sacking ratten, injury and bringing in muck Malthouse. We will be better for the mistakes. The greatest learning occurs during failure and we’ve had our fair share.

A means to an end. We needed more players for 1 pick deals so we got players chucked in that hadn’t set the world on fire but we took them to fill holes in our list. Didn’t turn out the best for those players but it will for us when we top up with 22-27 year olds this year. The plan is coming...

“Less for our spuds aye” I don’t really want to debate this on here but I am an educator at heart and it would be interesting to line up the picks you used for your spuds vs the picks we used for ours. Lol. You’ll notice it was Adelaide second, Geelongs first etc. we always kept our firsts.

Oh really. Sounds eeeily familiar. Tell us all how many of Carlton’s picks didn’t SOS use again. Oh. He used geelongs, Adelaide’s on numerous occasions but kept our own first rounders. You dont say. Wow.

Just including previous failed regimes along with SOS’s to prove a point. We can’t all be this good: Gibbs ✔️ Gibson ❌ Menzel ❌ Seedsman ✔️ Hampton ❌ Gore ❌ Cheney ❌ Lowden ❌ And this cost a lot more than the above mentioned players for SOS.