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Some perspective - 9/13 recruiting managers pick Walsh above everyone else. Knightmare is definitely in the minority. Carlton can’t afford to take a risk on another tall like lukosius and wait and he could very well be the next jack watts. Who knows...

Totally agree. We had a lot of players getting games that shouldn’t of and we’re only in the list to cover for injury or develop the kids around them in the VFL. Our 23-28 year olds were mostly rubbish. Our kids missed more opportunity to develop for their as they were injured most of year...

1. McGovern played defence in Adelaide’s last game. 2. Docherty? Kruezer? Williamson? The worst injury list in the afl in 2018. Won’t improve us adding McGovern Newman fasolo Walsh and stocker.

Happy to revisit this conversation at the bye. But still it will require a few years to determine if Carlton's pick of Stocker compared to Adelaide's future first is a win or a loss. I just cant accept a D rating for a team that added an extra firs round pick rated very highly to go along with...

Carlton’s future pick is irrelevant in this issue. We clearly needed mids. It’s what we did this year that needed to be valued. You can give us a D next year. Or an A like Essendon for picking up three players outside 50. Going another tall would of had more than just you knightmare ripping...

I’ll raise you AA docherty AA squad Kruezer.

If Carlton keep looking to top 5 pics next year they’re not gonna make it. This decision was smart. All I’m hearing out of blues supporters is what amazing trade. People even building SOS statues as we speak. Stocker will play a lot of footy in 2019 and hawthorn/Richmond we’re heavily into him...

I don’t even think he was the best in his draft year. Each to their own.

Yeah true. You could argue carlton traded him out too.

Arguably the top 3 could also not go inside 20 this year. Comparing the top 5 this year they all would of been picked in front of Rayner.

Adelaide changes: Out: McGovern, Dear, Edwards, Hampton In: Stengle, jones, McHenry Carlton changes: Out: O’Shea, Shaw, ASOS, Graham, Kerridge, McDaid, Byrne, JGM, In: setterfield, fasolo, McGovern, Walsh, Stocker, Newman I know whose list improved and whose didn’t.

2 years ago so did you.

Adelaide could dojust what the dogs did post grand final. Maturity that performed well in 2016 fell over in 2017/18 or retired moved on. Jenkins 30 Gibbs 30 Walker 29 Betts 33 Otten 30 Jacobs 31 Lynch 29 Surely that’s a lot that are getting close and with burtons rubbish decisions sending...

Apart from our 2016/2017 seasons with around 7 wins. Only reason we won 2 this year is because of docherty and every other top 10 player in our best and fairest (bar Cripps) missing huge amounts of games. Worst injury list in AFL.

Pick 2 and 19 = pick 8/9. So if we finish exactly where we are and Adelaide stay outside the 8 then it’s fair. Take into account we had the worst injury list in the afl last year. Gained McGovern off Adelaide and an AA in docherty into our best 22 in 2019. Adelaide have a huge list of over 30s...

Maybe someone like a sam Walsh would help. Lol.

Hey knightmare. What would the likely fair offer be to Carlton for pick 1? What is the deal that would make Carlton consider it. And also what range of pick do you foresee McGovern going for that’s fair for both parties given his 40 odd games for Adelaide, his injury concerns and his poor 2018 year.

Hey knightmare Who would you recommend in the small forward part time mid category from this year in the second round. Carlton have two picks and I’m guessing the first will be Walsh or lukosius. Is there any smalls like Rioli and Ryan floating around - mature bodies to help our youth develop...

Hey KM, What do you think of sunny brazier from the northern knights. Hes part of Carlton’s NGA (isn’t he??) and could be picked up this year. Where would you likely place him??

Very true, I obviously didn’t account for that. In the end it’s not my decision who brisbane should take at 2 if that’s where they end up. I just think rozee and rankine have more runs on the board and will be higher. Knightmare I think has them in front too. For a team like Brisbane and also...

Disagree. Are you sure you understand what I’m saying. Rozzee and rankine are playing against seniors and performing very well. They will walk into an AFL midfield straight away much like a Powell-pepper in year 1. Walsh is playing against 17-18 year olds. The others already performing against...

Yeah makes sense. You’ve done quite well trading your last pick 2 although you’d obviously prefer to keep your top picks. Walsh is Victorian right? Doesn’t he equally have a gone home factor. Most Victorian’s go home but interstaters tend to stick the course as they assume statistically that...

You don’t like rozzee, rankine or max king. They be playing regular SANFL a huge step above TAC cup and racking up similar to Walsh in far superior comps.

Maybe if Carlton finish last they would be interested in a a trade for pick 1 for pick 2 + 20. I'd say Carlton wouldn't do it for that but who knows (maybe a pick closer to 15 would be needed). The current difference between pick 1 and 2 looks quite substantial. And of course the ladder will...

I probably didn’t word it very well. These sides need midfielders and have already spent time drafting talls. Carlton have mckay, Curnow, Kerr, JSOS, Macreadie, Weitering, Plowman, Marchbank as young talls and with BSOS this year lukosius would force Carlton to move 1-2 along. Yes lukosius is...

It wasn’t a plan I just said it would be interesting what teams like Carl, Bris and Saints would do advo they don’t really need another KP player like the kings or lukosius. Teams like Coll, Geel, WC, would give up a lot (I agree) for a top 5 Pick this year. My two plans are above (in previous...

Trading a future first. Using our two seconds. Trading aplayer like Macreadie or McKay (young developing talls) that clubs would be after. It comes down to the team and the options available at their live pick. With live trading coming in a team may have the best midfielder available at their...

Thanks KM hugely comprehensive. Will be very interesting for sides like Carlton, saints and lions as to who to take in particular with the mids in this draft too and all three sides needing mids more than a KPF or D but in Carlton’s situation at 1 at the moment you can’t go past lukosius...

Knightmare, How would you compare Ben and Max King to say a Tom Boyd at the same age? Do you believe Max to be the better forward (also in comparison to his brother Ben). I heard Ben is a better forward from some people at Carlton as he has moved into defense as he is more capable of making that...

I'd love to see the look on his grandmothers face is Kerr gets picked by the bombers. Lol