La Liga

[gaelictiogar]

Surprising to see how far behind Messi Ronaldo is now. Messi is on another level.

I support neither RM or Barcelona and was in a way pleased that a coincidence of Messi's recurrent hamstring troubles mixed with his own great form allowed CR7 his time in the glory in the past 2 years because his great talent and great application deserve it but no there is no surprise. Since he was 19 or 20 a fit and in form Messi is unquestionably ahead of everyone in the entire skillset with ball at feet. Over the past 2 months for the first time since the Pep Guardiola time at Barcelona we are seeing the full Messi talent on show untrammmelled by injury or poor form and when that is on show there is no other show in town.

messi ball at feet running at an opposition defence....there is no equivalent in soccer for sheer aesthetic soccer drama.

 

[LeoMessi]

I think I'll sit out of this argument since I don't want eggs thrown at me

 

[Nallad]

There's no argument. Messi is a lord.

 

[Theprofessional]

No its not. Penaldo always been overrated. If you watch him play he rarely assists and all his goals are created by team mates.

Is Messi the best player you've seen play?

 

[gaelictiogar]

Is Messi the best player you've seen play?

The objective answer has to be yes. His stats and efficiency ratings are unequalled since serious stat taking began in he '90s and almost certainly unequalled historically in European leagues/CL.

Subjectively of course people can - and do - have preferences for Zidane, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo 9, Ibra, CR7 etc and Messi himself but objectively and measurably there is no argument. it's Messi.

 

[Lethality]

Statistically Pele is still better, but it was a different era when Pele played in South America his entire career. In the era of the best players playing in Europe, Messi is the best. Overall, who knows.

 

[Zidane98]

What's up with Ronaldo? Petulant outburst not long ago that seen him suspended and the goals have dried up. typeclub care to elaborate?

 

[Magma]

pretty sure the king broke a pele record yesterday with 315 goals in 6 years or something like that. and the king still has games left

 

[Zidane98]

pretty sure the king broke a pele record yesterday with 315 goals in 6 years or something like that. and the king still has games left

Couple of seasons ago Messi outscored Buddy. Amazing.

 

[jod23]

It's only March but I think Messi is already the clear front runner for the Ballon D'Or.

 

[PP34]

Think I confused the La Liga thread for the Messi circle jerk

 

[apollo_creed]

Think I confused the La Liga thread for the Messi circle jerk

Would you prefer they discussed the jerk instead?

 

[gaelictiogar]

Think I confused the La Liga thread for the Messi circle jerk

Well in fairness watching him is the best part of that league....or any soccer league.

I'm a lukewarm soccer fan. To me Messi is the attraction. Equally I only ever watch Federer in tennis. When Fed finishes thats' me done with what is otherwise a sport of grunt and power.I suspect many are similar.

Messi rules for many non hardcore socceristas

 

[Cruyff14]

Think I confused the La Liga thread for the Messi circle jerk

But it'd be OK if everyone was going nuts over Ronaldo?

 

[PP34]

But it'd be OK if everyone was going nuts over Ronaldo?

Nah

 

[Cruyff14]

Hahaha sure

 

[apollo_creed]

Ronaldo has barely done anything for about 2 months.

What's the stat he hasn't scored from his last 70 free kicks or something?
His free kicks have always been rubbish and most sail high and wide into the stands yet because he scored a few decent ones this ridiculously inaccurate opinion was formed that he was lethal from the dead ball. Reality is that there are so many better free kick takers in the world, and so many more in their side currently. Surely not having scored in 70, he might just step down and let someone else take one, perhaps someone who can get within 40 metres of the target? The greediest, most self absorbed parasitic flog to ever put on a pair of football boots.

We're discussing Ronaldo now nbaman, hope you're content with the change in discussion.

 

[Zidane98]

But but he's better than Messi at penalties!
/end typeclub mode.

 

[Cruyff14]

Ronaldo cannot be faulted for his ability, but his greed and selfishness definitely hold him back.

 

[Thistle]

How reliable is Guillem Balague? Reporting that Real are seriously considering sacking Ancelotti at the end of the season.

 

[WowWeee]

woulda been sacked end of last season if Ramos didnt bail RM out in the CL Final

 

[pieman123]

How reliable is Guillem Balague? Reporting that Real are seriously considering sacking Ancelotti at the end of the season.

Pretty reliable id say, nothing would surprise me with RM.

 

[apollo_creed]

woulda been sacked end of last season if Ramos didnt bail RM out in the CL Final

Ronaldo really celebrated that goal and the 2nd and the 3rd.....
Sums the guy up there, the only goal he cared about was the one he scored which occurred once the game was basically over. All about CR7. The glory exists solely for him and isn't to be shared or stolen. Can only imagine the rage he felt when Bale scored the goal that put them ahead.

 

[Zidane98]

He'd rather win a Ballon D'or than a title.

 

[Zidane98]

How reliable is Guillem Balague? Reporting that Real are seriously considering sacking Ancelotti at the end of the season.

City will be all over him if he gets the flick. But who on earth would Real replace him with?
Klopp?

Perhaps it is time Fat Sam gets the gig considering he claims that he would win everything managing Real....