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It is recognised that this is a fraught topic for any number of you posting here. Some of you will have family in Israel or Palestine. Some of you will have connections to either side of the conflict. What you need to understand is that this site has rules governing posting standards and the appropriate way to talk to other posters, and you will abide by them.

How this interacts with this thread is that the following will result in your post being deleted, with a recurrence of the same behaviour resulting in (depending on severity) a threadban for a week and a day off:
  • direct labelling of someone as anti-semitic or a terrorist sympathiser for posting that is merely critical of Israel's response over time. Israel has the right to defend themselves from violence, but that does not mean that Israel has carte blanche to attack disproportionately towards people under their care.
  • deliberate goading or flippant responses, designed to get people reacting to your posting emotionally.
  • abuse.
  • attempts to turn this into a Left vs Right shitfight.
  • Use the word 'Nazi' in here, you had better be able to justify it in the post you're making and the comparison had better be apt. Godwin's law is in full effect for the purposes of this thread; if you refer to Nazis, you've lost whatever argument you're involved in.
  • Any defense of Hamas' actions on the basis of justification. There's no justification for genocide, regardless of whether or not they have the power to do so.
Please recognise that this is a difficult time for all involved, and some level of sensitivity is absolutely required to permit discussion to flow. From time to time, mods will reach out to specific posters and do some welfare checks; we may even give posters who get a bit too involved some days off to give people some time to cool down. This is not a reflection on you as a poster, merely that this is an intense subject.

I get that this is a fairly intense topic about which opinion can diverge rather significantly. If you feel you cannot be respectful in your disagreement with another poster, it is frequently better to refuse to engage than it is to take up the call.

From this point, any poster who finds themselves directly insulting another poster will find themselves receiving a threadban and an infraction, with each subsequent reoccurance resulting in steadily more points added to your account.

It has also become apparent that this needs to be said: just because someone moderates this forum that does not hold them to a different standard of posting than anyone else. All of us were posters first, and we are allowed to hold opinions on this and share them on this forum.

Treat each other with the respect each of you deserve.

Maggie5 Gone Critical Anzacday Jen2310
 
I've always believed that the US is the real protagonist in all things war. Even as a person who has a liitle bit of Jew on my mum's side, this has become very embarrassing

All I know is that I feel despair at living in a time when this sort of thing can happen in front of our eyes and still nothing will be done to stop it.

I'm not young; I should be more used to the world by now.
 
All I know is that I feel despair at living in a time when this sort of thing can happen in front of our eyes and still nothing will be done to stop it.

I'm not young; I should be more used to the world by now.
My work has shown me how evil people can be to each other. i'm not young either and to me, life has become cheaper than it has ever been, in times when you think we'd know better.
keep fighting the good fight as at least I know you're genuine
 
I'm not sure you could say or do anything to get me excited. I live in hope.

Think on the practicalities. How would Hamas have enough control of any territory to secretly excavate enough earth for mass graves (there's more than one)? Why would they fill it with Palestinians who've been zip-tied and shot?

Given that there has been reported mass executions as the Israelis moved through the areas in which the bodies have been excavated, it sounds quite plausible that Israel can take the credit.
The report suggested that the Israelis had previously dug up the bodies to look for whether there were any hostages there. My interpretation was that these were Palestinian buried due to the hospital not being able to cope with the amount of death that they had to deal with and the need for hygiene. Israeli killed though.
 

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Lies. Lies. Can do nothing but lie. Fantastical lies.

But they're beautiful lies because everyone can see how just how completely absurd they are, which is why I'm happy to post them.



This is also a lesson in how you disrespect the past and the people who suffered it.
 

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