Collingwood’s Josh Thomas, Lachie Keeffe accept two-year bans for taking banned drug clenbuterol

[Strapping Young Lad]

I'd hate to imagine Carowhine's reaction if the players used the tainted cocaine excuse! I cannot believe anyone could consider this would actually have any hope of reducing a suspension. Purchasing from an unknown manufacturer, random dealer and not knowing what you're taking - that's as bad as actually cheating.

It's a real pity for the pair of them that they have tested positive, otherwise they might have been able to just play dumb in the face of an investigation like another bunch of players we all know.

 

[bing181]

This little theory didn't work for Alberto Contador and he hasn't been the same rider since ...

Don't know about that. 2013 was a bit all over the place, but winning the Vuelta (including 2 stages) last year, coming off a serious injury and minimal training/racing, was impressive. He also finished second in the season-long World Tour competition, not that far behind Valverde, but quite a way ahead of third - our very own S Gerrans.

Still the best grand tour rider around IMHO, Clenbuterol notwithstanding. Interesting season ahead.

On the other hand, I suspect that the way it got into his system, and the way it got into the Collingwood pair, might be quite different, cough, cough.

 

[evo]

As I sit here in Belfast happily drinking pints two doors up from the site of one of Stevie "Top Gun" McKeag's most vile massacres, blackcat I can only speculate at the forlorn figure Robbo will cut in the Men's Gallery tomorrow night, stabbing out the sad news of his beloved Bombers having been labelled forever more the greatest cheats in the history of the game.

No endless drink card, nor the gently swaying assets of a girl from Keysborough "called" Krystal will assauge his pain.

Poor Robbo. He's the biggest victim in this all.

Been SO BRAVE.

#standbyrobbo

He cut a sorry figure last night on 360. He's lost a lot of weight by the look of it.

 

[nineteen eighty]

Leaked from ASADA preliminary investigation, this Burger stand was near where the Pies had their camp:

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To any of the mods out there, this needs to go into the HTB Hall of Fame.

Brilliant!

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

He cut a sorry figure last night on 360. He's lost a lot of weight by the look of it.

He'll find it, don't worry.

 

[Rourke]

Buckley, who admitted the club had gone through its nutrition program “with a fine-tooth cone” following the positive sample revelations, said Keeffe and Thomas were best mates and roomed together in New Zealand during the club’s overseas summer camp.

Nathan Buckley on AFL 360

That's the problem right there Bucks. More combs, fewer cones.

 

[teknodeejay]

List of drug cheats
Essendon
Collingwood

Who's next? Surely not my club. There's been nothing performance enhanced there since the 90s.

 

[thegerman]

fails drug test = accused of using peds
no failed drug test = team of drug cheating campaigners
only on bigfooty folks

Keep on pushing that wheelbarrow buddy, must be getting heavy for you

 

[thegerman]

The sample was taken on the Monday. They flew home from NZ on the Saturday I believe. Drug stays in system for about 4 days. They'd had to have consumed something tainted no earlier than Friday to be plausible. I'd think the concentrations used in cattle in NZ are very low and the likelihood of that showing up 3-4 days later is a massive longshot.

We too don't know the levels that they tested to. Tainted meat shouldn't see a spike above a certain level, if they are above that then his luck to them working at the local service station.

 

[KnobHead]

if drugs stay in the system for 4 days or so, & the substance wasn't in the meat, it still don't make much sense - wouldn't they still have to have sourced the drug out of australia & in New Zealand, & have to have known some dodgy locals while on a footy trip ?

 

[Apex Predators]

If they took some random party drug and this is their excuse then this is a pathetic excuse and they would cop maximum bans.

Yep, pathetic if that is the excuse they use. But no more pathetic than 'our players were duped by a loose cannon named Dank who was hired by the club and went rogue'. One of many pathetic excuses put out by EFC supporters to excuse the club, the players and their most loved Hird. Desperate people come up with pathetic excuses I guess.

 

[NoAFLinmycomp]

And to the people gloating about positive samples you might want to remember that the only difference between someone that has taken PEDs and returned a positive sample versus someone that hasn't is that the person with a positive sample doesn't need 2 years of investigation to establish their guilt/innocence. If the Essendon players had tested positive they would all be back and playing this year.

And that they have been unlucky and/or didn't plan their timing as well.

 

[jenny61_99]

On a side note: I read in December that MFC players had all gone Paleo.

In the midst of all this, the guys choose totally not performance enhancing...

Oh those poor bastards.

 

[Randomizor]

Yep, pathetic if that is the excuse they use. But no more pathetic than 'our players were duped by a loose cannon named Dank who was hired by the club and went rogue'. One of many pathetic excuses put out by EFC supporters to excuse the club, the players and their most loved Hird. Desperate people come up with pathetic excuses I guess.

To be fair to the EFC and the rogue defence, the text messages show Dank regularly checked in with at least one member of the staff about what he was doing.. Wait, what was my point again?

 

[jenny61_99]

2 years will end both of their careers so I dare say it is a tough enough suspension

Can't see how it won't be four years - new penalty this year.

 

[jenny61_99]

lets say the clem was used to cut some coke

it wouldnt be cut overseas you would think(?) if its imported it would be cut here to bulk weight so i cant see coke being cut overseas then shipped here creating a heavier bigger parcel (but this could be wrong, as i dont import drugs)

so, if it was clem in coke and they had a night on the sniffy powder would the coke show up in the same test (the one that recorded a positive for the clem)?
lets say yes it does, so, whats the code say about testing positive to coke for the first time?
is it strike one and its kept quiet?
but seeing as the coke was cut with a PED, that is announced straight away??
tested + for coke and PED
recreation drug isnt announced
the PED drug is

?
just thinking aloud

Coke banned on match day, but not off? I think. But asada would know that there was cocaine present. And like the essendon players, I wonder what the two boys wrote on their signed test form as to what substances theyd taken in previous 7 days?

 

[jakson68]

List of drug cheats
Essendon
Collingwood

Who's next? Surely not my club. There's been nothing performance enhanced there since the 90s.

34 from one club and only two from the other.
I wouldn't exactly put both teams in the same box.
Otherwise where are Freo and St Kilda? Same, same.

 

[MagpieJo]

List of drug cheats
Essendon
Collingwood

Who's next? Surely not my club. There's been nothing performance enhanced there since the 90s.

Um, 2 players does not make a club, otherwise with Judd and, well you must have one other reasonable player, you wouldn't be so s**t for so long.

 

[Nostradumbass]

He cut a sorry figure last night on 360. He's lost a lot of weight by the look of it.

He's been ill apparently. Scurvy I think.

 

[Milanista28]

Poor Bastards, I reckon the meat story is true.

 

[BigJoeD_]

Poor Bastards, I reckon the meat story is true.

Contaminated ice creams at the Lexus Centre cafe?

 

[LoungeLizard]

fails drug test = accused of using peds
no failed drug test = team of drug cheating campaigners
only on bigfooty folks

You forget what the EFC are accused of, most on here haven't called them cheats, but are disgusted with what they have been accused of doing

 

[clogged]

Contaminated meat is such a nonsense argument. I can't believe anyone is buying it.

 

[Milanista28]

Contaminated meat is such a nonsense argument. I can't believe anyone is buying it.

Nah it's true bro, They didn't cheat.

In all seriousness, Cocaine.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-31/guilty-youre-out

Oh boy big boy