Sport could the game of cricket as we know it be dying before our very eyes?

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Dec 14, 2008
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Most people know the best conversations spring out from nowhere, and before long the tangent can take you into unexpected places - that's where Moon theories are born.

A mate suggested to me that cricket is unique in the fact that its probably the only sport in the world where the level of the competition across the world isn't on a constant improve, infract its probably regressing.

Think about this, put an NBA team from today against one from the 80s, it probably puts 170 points up and demolishes it.
Put prime time Rafter up against anyone in the top 50 today and he gets poleaxed. Wayne Careys norf or even 80s hawks would get flogged by Richmond today. The 100m running record and swimming record, almost all records are constantly getting better as techniques and technology evolve...

Its the way its always been, we evolve, get better understanding, better training, better diets, better technology of equipment. Slowly but surely all records are broken and things get better.

But not in Cricket.

You could put Border or Gatting or the Waughs or Sobers in today and they would still make runs, Akram, Donald, Warne would still wreck top orders...Hell while the 100m record is constantly being shaved, the bloke with the highest ever batting average is nearly double the next bloke and played near on 70 years ago! (on uncovered pitches, with a paddle pop stick)

I know Bradman is an outlier so other stats may need to be factored
Of the top 15 highest batting averages, 2 players have played this century.

But why? why is this? Is it purely because cricket is a unique game? its a team sport but in essence its really 1 v 1, a batsman v a bowler at any one time.

At a time where technology has created these bats that can rocket a ball to the boundary, super high tuned athletes, video analysis of technique ect ect, the standard of test cricket has stagnated or more likely regressed. Nobody really wins away from home any more, Nobody is really pushing the averages of times past. Players are making a lot of runs but that's only because they are playing more games, the averages are the true figure to read, not amount of runs.

Im laying the blame squarely with short from cricket. Cricket has eaten itself alive from the inside, self cannibalized.

Players are not progessing because they have diverted to short from mentality and techniques. Like a kids brain being stunted by video games on tablets maybe the art of being a test cricket player is slowly dying in lieu of short form trickery. Short cut cricket rather than building a solid base of skills via the long form.

Back in the day you had your test team - then a one day team that was usually similar, but in essence they were shoe horning test players into a shorter game, some adapted, some didn't. Then we saw the beginning of the one day specialist. But mostly they were trying to mould test players into one day players - but the player had a solid technical base to work from.

These days it seems like we are trying to turn short form and 20/20 players into test players, and it aint working, they just don't have the technique, or the aptitude or the mental stamina or fortitude.

That's why we now have 3 day test matches, they were usually unheard of!

The shield game has become a mickey mouse operation - star international players come in and play day 3 only to get miles in their legs or a hit out. Bowlers bowl ten overs as per their quota for the national team physio.. The whole thing has been shuffled two and fro to fit in more big bash or hit and giggle stuff.

I understand in this now fast paced life, with this instant gratification culture, a 5 day game with periods of 8 hours of sometimes nothingness may not wash with todays world, but I love it, and I miss it. it IS cricket.

To me that game is dying before our very eyes, the canary in the cage is the regression of stats...its the beginning of the possible end. I really hope cricket dosent become a relic of the past but it very well may.

I can see a time where cricket as we know it no longer exists, it becomes just a 20/20 thing of trick shots and slower balls.

Please prove me wrong - it makes me sad.
 
I agree & I disagree...

Yes Windies and Aussie sides of past would smash every current side...but Hawks/Norf would beat the tiges (s**t they couldn't even beat a side with a yank as FF).

Probably slightly off topic but I haven't "loved" an Aussie player since Mike Hussey retired (I think I liked him because he was old fashioned). Quite like Starc and Hazelwood but just don't get the cult following of Lyon (it's just doesn't compare to the summer of Merv in 88)

Here I go on another tangent...quality of music has dropped despite technical advances. I love a great 3-4 minute pop song but now you might have have one classic in the top 10 each week and 9 duds but you look at old Countdown top 10s from the early 80s on YouTube and 9 of them had great pop sensibilities.
 

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It’s a pretty boring game
 

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I think we just pine for the past a lot. Which is natural.

Whilst I agree, OP makes some bloody good points.

I do worry we’re watching cricket in the first of its death throes.
 
my mate made the analogy that we don't use VHS any more now that we have a better version in DVD, or digital format

we don't use tapes or CD's any more because we have a better format in digital music..

But to me that implies that we have evolved to a better product, and I don't agree.

Test cricket isn't an inferior product, to me one day and 20/20 is the cheap knock off from ikea of the old classic leather chesterfield couch. The original will always be the best. You cant fake quality.

Either way, I don't really see a way back for Test cricket. In 100 years it will probably have gone the way of the polo or croquet - just a muddling old relic of a game that weird toffs watch.
 
I maintain you are overstating how much the quality of Test cricket has declined. Certain terms undoubtedly have, but overall, I still find the longest form of the game very compelling to watch.
 
Last weekend I went for a run down to Coogee oval. Was gonna do some laps, kick the footy etc.

All of a sudden Smith and that other idiot are playing for a state side and there’s like 300 people watching.

Ruined my plan. Absolute bullshit and they can * off.
 
Last weekend I went for a run down to Coogee oval. Was gonna do some laps, kick the footy etc.

All of a sudden Smith and that other idiot are playing for a state side and there’s like 300 people watching.

Ruined my plan. Absolute bullshit and they can **** off.
Not in my ******* backyard!
 
another not mentioned factor is with the batting averages are not getting any higher, they peaked last century, yet everything since that time has gone toward improving the batsmans fortunes.

Back then, we had uncovered pitches (early days) and bowlers had little in the way of rules to stop them bowling fast and aggressive at the batsman, who had little in the way of protection.

since then we have given batsmen a lot of safety devices (helmets/padding ect), bigger better bats, and we also limit bowlers to 2 short pitched balls per over. along with covered perfect pitches (roads)

So you can maybe say the game was slanted more toward the ball, and is now more slanted toward the bat - but the averages didn't follow that picture.
 
another not mentioned factor is with the batting averages are not getting any higher, they peaked last century, yet everything since that time has gone toward improving the batsmans fortunes.

Back then, we had uncovered pitches (early days) and bowlers had little in the way of rules to stop them bowling fast and aggressive at the batsman, who had little in the way of protection.

since then we have given batsmen a lot of safety devices (helmets/padding ect), bigger better bats, and we also limit bowlers to 2 short pitched balls per over. along with covered perfect pitches (roads)

So you can maybe say the game was slanted more toward the ball, and is now more slanted toward the bat - but the averages didn't follow that picture.
It is a strange suggestion to make that batting averages aren't improving, therefore the standard of cricket as a whole hasn't improved.

Perhaps the quality of bowling has also improved? If both the batting and bowling improve simultaneously then averages don't change much...
Undoubtedly the quality of fielding has improved out of sight.

I also don't agree with the assertion that quality hasn't improved based on averages alone. The strike rate has improved massively whilst maintaining similar averages. That is a big improvement, which apart from being a hell of a lot more entertaining, improves a sides chances for a result out of sight. Draws these days are mostly rain affected matches, they used to be a dime a dozen. That is an improvement.

More people than ever are watching cricket thanks to T20. Nothing is dying here. Quite the opposite.
 
I think about this a lot, and essentially agree with your points Mr Moon.

The deep weirdness of the schedule is a factor. The classic nooby’s refrain of “who’s winning?” (... the test? the series? the “world competition”?) generally can’t be answered.

So contests, while sometimes compelling, don’t build passion the way an AFL season does for example. As a kid I was crushed when AUSTRALIA lost a test. Or for that matter when Queensland lost another shield final. I retained that passion when it comes to essendon games but about 15 years ago stopped caring whether Australia won.

It’s so much more a game of individual and team narrative and triumph over adversity.

The only future for test cricket now is to make it a reality tv show with intensive focus on individual characters and stories.
 
It is a strange suggestion to make that batting averages aren't improving, therefore the standard of cricket as a whole hasn't improved.

Perhaps the quality of bowling has also improved? If both the batting and bowling improve simultaneously then averages don't change much...
Undoubtedly the quality of fielding has improved out of sight.

I also don't agree with the assertion that quality hasn't improved based on averages alone. The strike rate has improved massively whilst maintaining similar averages. That is a big improvement, which apart from being a hell of a lot more entertaining, improves a sides chances for a result out of sight. Draws these days are mostly rain affected matches, they used to be a dime a dozen. That is an improvement.

More people than ever are watching cricket thanks to T20. Nothing is dying here. Quite the opposite.

The bowling averages have stagnated also, in fact of the top 30 bowling averages one plays now, (Mohammas Abbas, ave 16.2 from 12 matches) and of the top 30 all time bowling averages only 3 have played in the 2000s, McGrath, Philander and Abbas.

Understand stats don't always tell the true story but it also flies in the face of the claim that batting averages have not gotten better with time because of better bowling perse.

The original argument was that while most other sports and pursuits the world participates in, participants/teams/scores/averages/records have steadily gotten better with time, but cricket has bucked that trend. Players are better offensively and defensively at basketball, yet scoring records continue to be smashed ect

The great SK Warne himself said that 20/20 cricket has fundamentally changed how bowlers bowl, pre short form, bowlers were taught to bowl in the same spot over and over and over again, find rhythm, consistency and you'll grind the batsman out - these days they are taught to never bowl the same ball twice - how do you actually find rhythm when by default you are trying not to find rhythm?

So short form has changed bowling and changed batting, for the worse? well, if you want entertainment for 2 hours - I guess not , if you want classical test cricket to survive and prosper - definitely.

You argue cricket isn't dying, but is infract quite the opposite - because more people are involved in watching 20/20 - and that might be right - I probably should have rephrased my argument to say the game as we/I knew it is dying in lieu of this new version.

but I did enjoy your post - most don't argue with any facts other than to say BS you are wrong, just because..

least a bit of dialog helps the cause.
 
The bowling averages have stagnated also, in fact of the top 30 bowling averages one plays now, (Mohammas Abbas, ave 16.2 from 12 matches) and of the top 30 all time bowling averages only 3 have played in the 2000s, McGrath, Philander and Abbas.

Understand stats don't always tell the true story but it also flies in the face of the claim that batting averages have not gotten better with time because of better bowling perse.

The original argument was that while most other sports and pursuits the world participates in, participants/teams/scores/averages/records have steadily gotten better with time, but cricket has bucked that trend. Players are better offensively and defensively at basketball, yet scoring records continue to be smashed ect

The great SK Warne himself said that 20/20 cricket has fundamentally changed how bowlers bowl, pre short form, bowlers were taught to bowl in the same spot over and over and over again, find rhythm, consistency and you'll grind the batsman out - these days they are taught to never bowl the same ball twice - how do you actually find rhythm when by default you are trying not to find rhythm?

So short form has changed bowling and changed batting, for the worse? well, if you want entertainment for 2 hours - I guess not , if you want classical test cricket to survive and prosper - definitely.

You argue cricket isn't dying, but is infract quite the opposite - because more people are involved in watching 20/20 - and that might be right - I probably should have rephrased my argument to say the game as we/I knew it is dying in lieu of this new version.

but I did enjoy your post - most don't argue with any facts other than to say BS you are wrong, just because..

least a bit of dialog helps the cause.
How far back are you arguing for the death of cricket as we know it though Howie?

I mean you say 1 bowler in the top 30 averages and it sounds horrible.

But in context only 10 of those bowlers have played post 1960 with 3 of those playing the vast bulk before 1960.

Reality is looking at bowling averages tells us very little as only McGrath (#30), Philander (#28), Ambrose (#21), Garner (#20), Marshall (#19) and Abbas (#7) have played any significant amount of cricket in the past 40 years.
 

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