Meltdown Do the Cats have too big an advantage?

[Optimistic Dog]

There is no doubt the cats have the most home ground advantage of the Victorian clubs. Yes the interstate clubs have more home games but need to travel every second week. On top of that they are able to attract top free agency talent for a lot of different reasons

the chance to be a premiership player​

the go home factor​

life style​

smart management​

Maybe this is a sour grapes post and the cats are just a superior run club but there is got to be a reason for their continued top 4 finishes and looks like it will continue for a long time.

 

[Believe Me]

The level of corruption at that club is understated

 

[Lensen]

All of these things were a burden on them being able to recruit 20 years ago. Good on them for being managed superbly and finding a way to make their unique attributes work for them.

The perennial woe is us losers on the Gold Coast, for example, could learn a thing or two

 

[Shane Heard]

too* much

 

[Bald]

Geelong are a very unique side in that they lose a couple of home games per year (playing MCG tenants in home games at the MCG) in exchange for the benefits of interstate home ground advantage. Is it overall massively advantageous? I don't think so. No more than the contrasting view that other Victorian clubs can play away games at their home venue (St Kilda will play their second "away" game in the first six weeks at Marvel Stadium today), no more than interstate clubs trade the travel every other week for a pure home ground advantage.

The only thing I don't like about GMHBA are the dimensions of the ground - but my feelings on that are for all grounds in Australia. I think it's absurd that different grounds have different dimensions.

 

[Shane Heard]

The level of corruption at that club is understated

I concur. They’re run basically like the Russian mafia.

 

[darrenmorgan]

The level of corruption at that club is understated

lol. care to elaborate?

 

[Banyo Bloods]

They have lost that home ground advantage come finals in the past. So It isn't all that great an advantage.

For me they have a strong well built list so the advantage is around that but one of the main contributing advantages to home is that they play a lot of the same lesser drawing opponents there and they all struggle to bring their game to a ground that is narrow and has one of the most one sided supporter allocation. That may change a bit in the future.

Oh and this where they are so popular everyone wants to get in on the good times

 

[Pistol Night]

lol. care to elaborate?

Care to explain how Gary Rohan torched us in a final? Thats next level witchcraft

 

[Mayes2Gray]

There is no doubt the cats have the most home ground advantage of the Victorian clubs. Yes the interstate clubs have more home games but need to travel every second week. On top of that they are able to attract top free agency talent for a lot of different reasons

the chance to be a premiership player​

the go home factor​

life style​

smart management​

Maybe this is a sour grapes post and the cats are just a superior run club but there is got to be a reason for their continued top 4 finishes and looks like it will continue for a long time.

They are forced to play home finals away from home.

They are well run.

It’s sour grapes.

 

[fpm84]

Have had one true home final in history (and a 0% winning record!), forced to play ‘home’ games at opposition home grounds (even the EPL is more equitable).

The question needs to be asked, is Geelong the most disadvantaged club in the league when it comes to fixturing?

 

[demondavey]

Yawn.

Geelong wins 3 after losing 3 and now it’s all corruption and unfair advantage.

 

[apollo_creed]

It’s a fair point. Interstate sides have a unique home ground but have to travel every second week, Victorian sides don’t have a unique home ground and play more neutral matches but don’t have to travel as much as interstate sides…

Geelong? Best of both worlds. It’s an advantage unless you favour sticking your head in the sand.

 

[demondavey]

There is no doubt the cats have the most home ground advantage of the Victorian clubs. Yes the interstate clubs have more home games but need to travel every second week. On top of that they are able to attract top free agency talent for a lot of different reasons

the chance to be a premiership player​

the go home factor​

life style​

smart management​

Maybe this is a sour grapes post and the cats are just a superior run club but there is got to be a reason for their continued top 4 finishes and looks like it will continue for a long time.

It’s sour grapes.

They do one thing very well and not rely on the draft to bottom out and rebuild. There’s a reason they’ll probably be in the running to attract Himmelberg for example. They just keep topping up.

You’ll also notice guys like Close, Z Guthrie, SDK, O’Connor, Bowes, Henry, Holmes developing nicely under experienced heads. Clearly the development of the youth goes under the radar whilst everyone talks about their age profile.

Definitely a watch this space moment for more savvy trading when the older brigade retire.

 

[demondavey]

It’s a fair point. Interstate sides have a unique home ground but have to travel every second week, Victorian sides don’t have a unique home ground and play more neutral matches but don’t have to travel as much as interstate sides…

Geelong? Best of both worlds. It’s an advantage unless you favour sticking your head in the sand.

Richmond
Hawthorn
Melbourne
Collingwood

All benefit from a massive home ground advantage. Particularly Richmond and Hawthorn in their glory years. No head in the sand stuff at all.

 

[demondavey]

Have had one true home final in history (and a 0% winning record!), forced to play ‘home’ games at opposition home grounds (even the EPL is more equitable).

The question needs to be asked, is Geelong the most disadvantaged club in the league when it comes to fixturing?

Look, you’re not disadvantaged. You play lots of footy in Geelong and also the G where you definitely play well. You’ve built up a clear cultural and recruiting advantage with some great people at the club.

 

[Hoops]

The level of corruption at that club is understated

 

[fpm84]

Interstate sides have a unique home ground but have to travel every second week, Victorian sides don’t have a unique home ground and play more neutral matches but don’t have to travel as much as interstate sides…

Geelong? Best of both worlds. It’s an advantage unless you favour sticking your head in the sand.

By Victorian sides you mean Melbourne based sides. Geelong is not a Melbourne based side.

Geelong continually plays ‘home’ games against your team at your home ground. There is no ‘best of both worlds’ for Geelong, rather a significant advantage to the likes of Richmond and Collingwood (at least Essendon and Carlton have been scheduled to KP in the last couple of seasons).

 

[Dez!]

Richmond
Hawthorn
Melbourne
Collingwood

All benefit from a massive home ground advantage. Particularly Richmond and Hawthorn in their glory years. No head in the sand stuff at all.

How do those teams benefit from a a massive home ground advantage?

That statement is as stupid as the premise of this thread.

 

[demondavey]

By Victorian sides you mean Melbourne based sides. Geelong is not a Melbourne based side.

Geelong continually plays ‘home’ games against your team at your home ground. There is no ‘best of both worlds’ for Geelong, rather a significant advantage to the likes of Richmond and Collingwood (at least Essendon and Carlton have been scheduled to KP in the last couple of seasons).

Collingwood plays 14 games this year at the G, inclusive of ‘away’ games. They also play North, WB and Brisbane at Marvel. Another 3 weeks of no travel.

If we need to discuss unfair ground or travel advantages, let’s talk Collingwood.

 

[fpm84]

Look, you’re not disadvantaged. You play lots of footy in Geelong and also the G where you definitely play well. You’ve built up a clear cultural and recruiting advantage with some great people at the club.

I was being facetious given the OP claims Geelong has ‘too much advantage.’ I agree that the primary reason we’ve remained relevant for 15+ years are due to recruitment, development, culture and strong leaders on and off field.

It’s been an incredible stroke of luck that two of the best players of the last 20 years in Dangerfield and JC have come to us because of proximity to home. But no more lucky than Collingwood landing Daicos x2 and Moore through F/S for example.

But also a fact that we’ve had one home final at KP in history, and that the club regularly 11 KP games a season but these requests are knocked back. People carry on like KP is some secret weapon when the big Melbourne clubs are rarely if ever scheduled there and we regularly earn home finals against big Melbourne clubs and play them at our opponents’ grounds.

 

[demondavey]

How do those teams benefit from a a massive home ground advantage?

That statement is as stupid as the premise of this thread.

Point was to state that if Geelong somehow benefits from a home ground advantage, the above mentioned benefit from the games in totality they play at home.

Yes, the premise of the thread is a bit worn. I never agreed, just stated that the above mentioned also get to play at home pretty frequently.

 

[UnitedWarrior93]

Sour grapes. Only team this year who had to wait until round 6 to play a ‘home game’, yet we have a huge advantage lol.

 

[Hoops]

If Geelong are advantaged because they have a home ground (It just sounds so stupid when you say it out loud) Then so do those teams that don't have to play there are also advantaged.

The fact is Geelong should be able to play 11 games in Geelong and their earnt finals too. That's not even close to controversial saying that. The fact many are outraged by this shows how ****ed up they are by Geelong run of success.

 

[catters_28]

How do those teams benefit from a a massive home ground advantage?

That statement is as stupid as the premise of this thread.

Huh?

If any of those teams make a grand final, it is guaranteed to be at their home ground.

Seems a massive home ground advantage to me.