List Mgmt. Our rucks

[70s sainter]

Keep Paddy around to pinch hit and coach the other rucks if he wants to - like Mumford last year . Heath still years off . We’ve picked out Draper who came on and Xerri who had a good year too so need to find another one to be our long term with Marshall and to compete with Heath.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Hayes is ok in the ruck but cant find the ball around the ground and couldn't mark his undies

Same average AFL fantasy points as Ryder.
1.2 goals per game vs 0.9
12 disposals vs 8
4.6 marks per game, vs 2.7.
1.8 tackles vs 2.2
2 clearances vs 2.2

Marshal does a little better.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Same average AFL fantasy points as Ryder.
1.2 goals per game vs 0.9
12 disposals vs 8
4.6 marks per game, vs 2.7.
1.8 tackles vs 2.2
2 clearances vs 2.2

Marshal does a little better.

That's the point I was making , no better than what we have , don't we want to improve the list

Guess he is only 23 though so he still should improve

 

[CaptainRisky]

You were Talking Sam Hayes , these look different to yours

Player Statistics Comparison​

Sam Hayes​ Name​ Patrick Ryder​ Port Adelaide Power​ Team​ St Kilda Saints​ Ruck​ Position​ Ruck​ 7​ Career Games​ 281​ Eastern Ranges​ Origin​ East Fremantle​ June 9, 1999​ Date of Birth​ March 14, 1988​ 23yr 1mth​ Age​ 34yr 4mth​ 205cm​ Height​ 197cm​ 102kg​ Weight​ 95kg​ 2017 National Draft​ Last Drafted In​ 2005 National Draft​ Round 3, Pick #47​ Last Draft Position​ Round 1, Pick #7​ Port Adelaide Power​ Last Drafted By​ Essendon Bombers​ 2022​ Stats for Season​ 2022​ 7​ Games​ 12​ 3.6​ Kicks​ 6.1​ 4.1​ Handballs​ 1.8​ 7.7​ Disposals​ 7.9​ 1.6​ Marks​ 2.7​ 0​ Goals​ 0.9​ 0​ Behinds​ 0.6​ 1.3​ Tackles​ 2.2​ 29.3​ Hitouts​ 22.0​ 1.4​ Inside 50s​ 1.5​ 0.1​ Goal Assists​ 0.2​ 2.6​ Frees For​ 1.3​ 1.6​ Frees Against​ 2.3​ 5.4​ Contested Possessions​ 5.1​ 3.3​ Uncontested Possessions​ 3.2​ 6.4​ Effective Disposals​ 4.9​ 83.1%​ Disposal Efficiency %​ 62%​ 2.1​ Clangers​ 4.2​ 0.1​ Contested Marks​ 0.8​ 0​ Marks Inside 50​ 0.8​ 2.3​ Clearances​ 2.2​ 0.3​ Rebound 50s​ 0.3​ 3.4​ One Percenters​ 2.4​ 0​ Bounces​ 0​ 73.7​ Time On Ground %​ 71.1​ 0.9​ Centre Clearances​ 0.7​ 1.4​ Stoppage Clearances​ 1.5​ 2.7​ Score Involvements​ 3.8​ 78.0​ Metres Gained​ 122.2​ 1.1​ Turnovers​ 1.9​ 1.0​ Intercepts​ 1.2​ 0​ Tackles Inside 50​ 0.4​ $408,000​ AFL Fantasy Price​ $501,000​ 56.0​ AFL Fantasy Score​ 61.0​ $308,200​

 

[SaintsSeptember]

That's the point I was making , no better than what we have , don't we want to improve the list

Guess he is only 23 though so he still should improve

Improving the list doesn't mean improving on every single player each year.
Not sure our rucks are the weakest link, in fact i'm sure they aren't.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Hayes is ok in the ruck but cant find the ball around the ground and couldn't mark his undies

This is one of your worst posts ever Captain Frisky

 

[CaptainRisky]

This is one of your worst posts ever Captain Frisky

Opps , i thought he was talking about the Port Adelaide Hayes

 

[longlivelenny]

Time to let paddy go, as much as I love him. Let Marshall *, keep Campell in the twos for cover and find another key forward.

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[Dr Spaceman]

Opps , i thought he was talking about the Port Adelaide Hayes

Either that or Longer

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Opps , i thought he was talking about the Port Adelaide Hayes

Might have been my OOps , he might have been.

No more Hayeses , too confusing.....though....it would be worth it for the commentary.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Improving the list doesn't mean improving on every single player each year.
Not sure our rucks are the weakest link, in fact i'm sure they aren't.

Why would you not want to improve the list if you could , the more the better i say and im not convinced that Jack Hayes is the answer to our second ruck

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Why would you not want to improve the list if you could , the more the better i say and im not convinced that Jack Hayes is the answer to our second ruck

But you need to consider who we can trade in vs who we can draft , and who we could trade in if we didn't trade in a ruck.
I'm not over the moon about anyone we can trade in for little cost.

If we are going to cough up wages or draft picks, i'd prefer we use it on our midfield.

 

[CaptainRisky]

But you need to consider who we can trade in vs who we can draft , and who we could trade in if we didn't trade in a ruck.
I'm not over the moon about anyone we can trade in for little cost.

If we are going to cough up wages or draft picks, i'd prefer we use it on our midfield.

And you need to remember


Can go any club

 

[SaintsSeptember]

And you need to remember


Can go any club

We're getting Heeney?

 

[CaptainRisky]

Either that or Longer

 

[CaptainRisky]

We're getting Heeney?

No fooling you is there

 

[Dr Spaceman]

We're getting Heeney?

He's too short to ruck!!!








However if we stick Josh Kelly on his shoulders

 

[Sully111]

I think Paddy is the least of our problems

 

[sasaint]

I think Paddy is the least of our problems

This. Focus needs to be on quality and depth in our midfield with superior footskills.

 

[Diehard Saint]

On Twitter someone reporting Paddy done for the season? Anyone heard anything?
They’re saying calf but I thought Ratts said Achilles.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Not sure if Kelly's footskills will be up to it with the weight of Heeney on his shoulders.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

On Twitter someone reporting Paddy done for the season? Anyone heard anything?
They’re saying calf but I thought Ratts said Achilles.

Have to watch those Calves.

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[Jade Buddha]

I’ve loved Ryders stint at the saints, but I think Father Time is catching up with him.
This Achilles has been bothering him all year, not letting him play his best, seems immobile at times.

Happy for him to go again next year if he can get his body right.
But might be best served to move Rowan into the ruck and recruit a big power forward to compliment King. I think a Tom MacDonald type would be a great foil for King.
Someone who will throw their weight around.
Not sure where to find such a player though.

You mean Hayes

 

[Jade Buddha]

Hayes is ok in the ruck but cant find the ball around the ground and couldn't mark his undies

Hayes is a good mark go back and watch the early games.
He’s actually not much chop in the ruck but competes at ground level.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Hayes is a good mark go back and watch the early games.
He’s actually not much chop in the ruck but competes at ground level.

He kicked a massive snap on goal in a grand final.