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Media PVF Calls For Changes After The SoO Captaincy Drama

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Jan 11, 2007
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Wonders and the Allies midfielder PVF is calling for a change to the selection process for captains of all the State Of Origin sides after the past week where certain teams are having to deal with in-house fighting over the captaincy of their team.


“I just think there has to be an easier way to deal with all this captaincy stuff without seeing players wanting to leave their state sides over disputes about the issue. The Allies haven’t had this drama because we all have said at the start we want Itsmyshow to be captain again after a great performance in the last series but the issues that are happening in the other sides are rather annoying when really the current finals series should be the main talking point for the league at the moment. “


“So my idea to solve this for future State Of Origin series is to place a set of rules as follows:

  • No current SFA captain can captain their state side.
  • A player cannot captain their state side for more than two SoO series in a row.
  • Whoever makes a bid for being a captain gets judged by all SFA captains and boncer34 who will each vote for who they think is the best candidate for the job.

My reasoning for these rules to be put in place is so that more players can get the opportunity to captain a side and will give them experience for the future if they wish to one day captain their SFA side if the time comes. And with all the captains and boncer voting this will cut the chances of people pulling out the ‘bias’ card if they do not get chosen to be captain. Now there is always a chance that no-one is willing to step up to take on a captaincy role for some SoO teams but I would hope some of the younger posters around the league could see this as a great opportunity and take a chance to prove themselves.”

“I think this could cut out all the bullshit leading upto the carnival and I would hope this could be implemented for the next series as it’s pretty set at the moment for the upcoming carnival.”

TL;DR Version: Don’t be a lazy campaigner and just read the ****er ;)
 
Nope. Ljp86 has done an outstanding job of captaining WA and things like this shouldn't change that.

Really in fact it's a bit of a god-send. We're discovering that there are a lot of Deddy 's in the SFA.
 
Nope. Ljp86 has done an outstanding job of captaining WA and things like this shouldn't change that.

Really in fact it's a bit of a god-send. We're discovering that there are a lot of Deddy 's in the SFA.

And how are the Deddy's of the SFA going to improve if the old timers are still running the show?

Not knocking Ljp, he does a great job but he's not going to be around forever.
 
Yeah no thanks. Do not penalise the other states/regions because certain states have a massive power squabble over leadership and can't get their shit together.
 

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And how are the Deddy's of the SFA going to improve if the old timers are still running the show?

That's my question to you. How do they improve if they get handed captaincy rather than earning it?
 
That's my question to you. How do they improve if they get handed captaincy rather than earning it?

It makes them step up and show everyone what they've got.

Sure earning it would make them improve better but it's hard for that to happen because some teams like to keep it safe and have the same captain every series because they are use to it being like that.

I mean after IMS captains this series I would love to see someone like for example saintkildaman step up in the next series and see how he goes as captain. I just think it will improve the league in the future when key members leave the league.
 
I Personally think the SoO captains should be named before a few cowboys make threads and everyone follows.

Once captains are decided by league admin than only they can make the team SoO thread.

I thought we were doing All Stars first anyway.
 
Bonce just announce the captains, stop the shitfights from the other states.

It wont matter who is the other side's captains, they'll still get demolished by Metro.
 
Preferable each team should decide who leads them problem with that is the mad scramble to fill a squad.

What people don't get is Gee Dub is NSW/ACT's Captain. My role is Junior Captain. Basically learning the ropes in preparation for my leadership role at the Roys.

It upsets me that people seem to think I'm glory hunting or criticising me without knowing the facts.
 
Wonders and the Allies midfielder PVF is calling for a change to the selection process for captains of all the State Of Origin sides after the past week where certain teams are having to deal with in-house fighting over the captaincy of their team.


“I just think there has to be an easier way to deal with all this captaincy stuff without seeing players wanting to leave their state sides over disputes about the issue. The Allies haven’t had this drama because we all have said at the start we want Itsmyshow to be captain again after a great performance in the last series but the issues that are happening in the other sides are rather annoying when really the current finals series should be the main talking point for the league at the moment. “


“So my idea to solve this for future State Of Origin series is to place a set of rules as follows:

  • No current SFA captain can captain their state side.
You do realise Itsmyshow is the Hawks captain as well don't you? The system is fine, admins have always decided captains and it is the fairest way. That way there is limited prejudice rather than having eight to ten other guys all trying to ram their opinions in too about teams they couldn't give two shits about.
 
I agree with PVF on some front, current SFA captains will step down at some stage, could be next week, could be seasons away, the SoO should serve as a stepping stone for young apprentices. I do however think that experience should be accompanied with that, so co captains would be ideal, one to guide the younger one. It's all well and good to say a Captain like LJP can keep doing it because he has a proven record, but how are others going to get the opportunity? Ultimately it's Boncers call anyway but I can't see why something like this couldn't be done in the future.
 
I've never liked the idea of current captains doing it.

SOO isn't that many games and it's hard for new posters to get captaincy experience in these parts.

I'm more disappointed in those that put their hand up and are greedy with it than boncer.

Yes that was a swing at Itsmyshow and beez it wasn't that subtle anyway.

Power hungry flogs :p
 
I've never liked the idea of current captains doing it.

SOO isn't that many games and it's hard for new posters to get captaincy experience in these parts.

I'm more disappointed in those that put their hand up and are greedy with it than boncer.

Yes that was a swing at Itsmyshow and beez it wasn't that subtle anyway.

Power hungry flogs :p

So I take it that you will be editing this post to read Eth now?
 

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Eth has not captained a side.

His experience is ZERO.

The old flog wouldn't give up his spot until the season finished.

I've never liked the idea of current captains doing it.

SOO isn't that many games and it's hard for new posters to get captaincy experience in these parts.

I'm more disappointed in those that put their hand up and are greedy with it than boncer.

Yes that was a swing at Itsmyshow and beez it wasn't that subtle anyway.

Power hungry flogs :p

That is not what you said.. You stated "Current Captains".. Eth is the "Current Captain" of the MBDs..

Why is it that you continually undermine your captain in public forums?? If you didn't want him to take the reigns you shouldn't have stepped down.
 
Preferable each team should decide who leads them problem with that is the mad scramble to fill a squad.

What people don't get is Gee Dub is NSW/ACT's Captain. My role is Junior Captain. Basically learning the ropes in preparation for my leadership role at the Roys.

It upsets me that people seem to think I'm glory hunting or criticising me without knowing the facts.

It's true. I've seen him upset. The other night he ate a whole pie and looks at the moment like Scott Cummings pre-Jen4Men.
 
It's true. I've seen him upset. The other night he ate a whole pie and looks at the moment like Scott Cummings pre-Jen4Men.

Why would I argue with my alias?
 

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Agree with a lot of what you write, PVF. But Snappy makes the best point. A player walking out (or threatening to do so) because they didn't have a share in the captaincy is a little embarrassing. If you think you are a leader you certainly aren't showing it by threatening to walk out. I have been distracted by the prelim, but I think it was MD that walked out? Not his finest moment, despite making some sound points about the process.

Agree the process was a shambles with threads popping up everywhere with self-appointed captains, but I don't think Boncer had even thought about it given the finals had only just started! Some of us were still playing! Alls well that ends well I suppose.
 

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