Ranking the draftees - Talls

[Kildonan]

I have decided that in order to do a mock draft, I would be best served ranking the draftees.
Rather than make it overcomplicated, I am dividing them into Talls, Mediums and Smalls.

Talls ranked in preferential order

Name                 State  Club              Ht    Wt
Gumbleton Scott       WA    Peel Thunder      197.1 92.8
Hansen Lachlan        VIC   Gippsland         196.7 91
Thorp Mitchell        TAS   Northern Bombers  195   84
Leuenberger Matthew   WA    East Perth        203.2 92.9
Sellar James          SA    Glenelg           195   92
Riewoldt Jack         TAS   Clarence          193   84
Reid Ben              VIC   Murray            196.4 81
McKenzie Eric         WA    Claremont         195.8 91
Brown Nathan          VIC   Nth Ballarat      194   89
Renouf Brent          QLD   Southport         200.3 92.5 
Mourish Caleb         WA    East Fremantle    194  
Allen Jarryd          VIC   Calder            192   85
Hampson Sean          QLD   Mt Gravatt        200.8 93.1
Brown Mitchell        VIC   Nth Ballarat      193   92
Tippett Kurt          QLD   Southport         200.6 95.9
White Jesse           QLD   Southport         196.3 95
Lee Alex              VIC   Dandenong         192   91.8
Currie Daniel         VIC   Northern Knights  200.4 90
Tarrant Robert        VIC   Bendigo                 91.9
Collier Tom           TAS   Lauderdale        192   86
Hardy Justin          VIC   Nth Ballarat      195   95
Austin Mark           SA    Glenelg           194   83
Everitt Andrejs       VIC   Dandenong         193   76
Grose Gavin           QLD   Mt Gravatt        193   85
Weeks Grant           VIC   Bendigo           189   86
Jacobs Sam            SA    Woodville-WT      201   99
Frawley James         VIC   Nth Ballarat      192   81
Westhoff Justin       SA    Central Districts  
Schofield Will        VIC   Geelong Falcons 
Thomson James         WA    Claremont         193   80
Dawes Chris           VIC   Sandringham       194  101
Garland Colin         TAS   North Hobart      193   84

This is a work in progress, I would like some comment about the order I have them in and those I have omitted.

 

[sinepari]

Good work mate.

I'd have Allen ahead of Renouf & Collier ahead of Hampson. Rate Garland ahead of the likes of Tarrant and Jacobs.

Still, a very interesting read mate.

 

[LukeHodge15]

Its better if u group them in groups rather than an order i reckon

1st tier
Gumbleton Scott WA Peel Thunder 197.1 92.8
Hansen Lachlan VIC Gippsland 196.7 91
Thorp Mitchell TAS Northern Bombers 195 84
Leuenberger Matthew WA East Perth 203.2 92.9

2nd tier
Sellar James SA Glenelg 195 92
Allen Jarryd VIC Calder 192 85
McKenzie Eric WA Claremont 195.8 91

3rd tier
Riewoldt Jack TAS Clarence 193 84
Reid Ben VIC Murray 196.4 81
Brown Nathan VIC Nth Ballarat 194 89
Renouf Brent QLD Southport 200.3 92.5

4th tier
Mourish Caleb WA East Fremantle 194
Hampson Sean QLD Mt Gravatt 200.8 93.1
Brown Mitchell VIC Nth Ballarat 193 92
Tippett Kurt QLD Southport 200.6 95.9
White Jesse QLD Southport 196.3 95
Lee Alex VIC Dandenong 192 91.8
Currie Daniel VIC Northern Knights 200.4 90
Tarrant Robert VIC Bendigo 91.9
Collier Tom TAS Lauderdale 192 86
Hardy Justin VIC Nth Ballarat 195 95
Austin Mark SA Glenelg 194 83
Everitt Andrejs VIC Dandenong 193 76
Grose Gavin QLD Mt Gravatt 193 85
Weeks Grant VIC Bendigo 189 86
Jacobs Sam SA Woodville-WT 201 99
Frawley James VIC Nth Ballarat 192 81
Westhoff Justin SA Central Districts
Schofield Will VIC Geelong Falcons
Thomson James WA Claremont 193 80
Dawes Chris VIC Sandringham 194 101
Garland Colin TAS North Hobart 193 84

Sorta like that, thats just a rough guide.

 

[Kildonan]

Talls ranked in preferential order

Name                 State  Club              Ht    Wt
Gumbleton Scott       WA    Peel Thunder      197.1 92.8
Hansen Lachlan        VIC   Gippsland         196.7 91
Thorp Mitchell        TAS   Northern Bombers  195   84
Leuenberger Matthew   WA    East Perth        203.2 92.9
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Sellar James          SA    Glenelg           195   92
Riewoldt Jack         TAS   Clarence          193   84
Reid Ben              VIC   Murray            196.4 81
McKenzie Eric         WA    Claremont         195.8 91
Brown Nathan          VIC   Nth Ballarat      194   89
Renouf Brent          QLD   Southport         200.3 92.5 
Mourish Caleb         WA    East Fremantle    194  
Allen Jarryd          VIC   Calder            192   85
Hampson Sean          QLD   Mt Gravatt        200.8 93.1
Brown Mitchell        VIC   Nth Ballarat      193   92
Tippett Kurt          QLD   Southport         200.6 95.9
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White Jesse           QLD   Southport         196.3 95
Lee Alex              VIC   Dandenong         192   91.8
Currie Daniel         VIC   Northern Knights  200.4 90
Collier Tom           TAS   Lauderdale        192   86
Garland Colin         TAS   North Hobart      193   84
Hardy Justin          VIC   Nth Ballarat      195   95
Austin Mark           SA    Glenelg           194   83
Tarrant Robert        VIC   Bendigo                 91.9
Everitt Andrejs       VIC   Dandenong         193   76
Grose Gavin           QLD   Mt Gravatt        193   85
Weeks Grant           VIC   Bendigo           189   86
Jacobs Sam            SA    Woodville-WT      201   99
Frawley James         VIC   Nth Ballarat      192   81
Westhoff Justin       SA    Central Districts  
Schofield Will        VIC   Geelong Falcons 
Thomson James         WA    Claremont         193   80
Dawes Chris           VIC   Sandringham       194  101

Thanks for the advice, I'm happy to move Garland to near the top of my third tier, but I'll keep the others where they are for the time being.

 

[LukeHodge15]

Frawley probably a little low also mate.

I find grouping them in tiers a better way to break certain groups of players down.

Caleb Mourish probably should be in the bottom tier also. Even with the hype.

 

[Grimreepah]

Good work StKildonan

 

[deano the hawka]

I have decided that in order to do a mock draft, I would be best served ranking the draftees.
Rather than make it overcomplicated, I am dividing them into Talls, Mediums and Smalls.

Talls ranked in preferential order

Name                 State  Club              Ht    Wt
[B]White Jesse           QLD   Southport         196.3 95[/B]

Jesse White is actually 101.7kg, as weighed at the Draft Camp....Terrific work, surprised that anyone could be bothered puting together a list like that, which is good work St.Kildonan!!!

 

[HBF]

Mourish will slip IMO. Will go in the 25-50 range at this stage.

 

[La Vache]

What about Morton?

I've seen it mentioned that he could develop into a CHF?

 

[macca69]

This is roughly how I'd have them.

Name State Club Ht Wt
Gumbleton Scott WA Peel Thunder 197.1 92.8
Hansen Lachlan VIC Gippsland 196.7 91
Thorp Mitchell TAS Northern Bombers 195 84
Leuenberger Matthew WA East Perth 203.2 92.9
Sellar James SA Glenelg 195 92
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McKenzie Eric WA Claremont 195.8 91
Riewoldt Jack TAS Clarence 193 84
Allen Jarryd VIC Calder 192 85
Tippett Kurt QLD Southport 200.6 95.9
Renouf Brent QLD Southport 200.3 92.5
Brown Nathan VIC Nth Ballarat 194 89
Reid Ben VIC Murray 196.4 81
Mourish Caleb WA East Fremantle 194
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Collier Tom TAS Lauderdale 192 86
Garland Colin TAS North Hobart 193 84
Frawley James VIC Nth Ballarat 192 81
Hampson Sean QLD Mt Gravatt 200.8 93.1
Austin Mark SA Glenelg 194 83
Brown Mitchell VIC Nth Ballarat 193 92
Everitt Andrejs VIC Dandenong 193 76
Dawes Chris VIC Sandringham 194 101
Jacobs Sam SA Woodville-WT 201 99
Schofield Will VIC Geelong Falcons
Currie Daniel VIC Northern Knights 200.4 90
White Jesse QLD Southport 196.3 95
Weeks Grant VIC Bendigo 189 86
Lee Alex VIC Dandenong 192 91.8
Hardy Justin VIC Nth Ballarat 195 95
Tarrant Robert VIC Bendigo 91.9
Grose Gavin QLD Mt Gravatt 193 85
Westhoff Justin SA Central Districts
Thomson James WA Claremont 193 80

Stefan Martin and Luke Nugent should also get a mention. Also wouldn't consider Weeks a KPP.

 

[Kildonan]

Work in progress - Updated ranking

Talls ranked in preferential order

Hansen Lachlan        VIC   Gippsland         196.7 91
Gumbleton Scott       WA    Peel Thunder      197.1 92.8
Thorp Mitchell        TAS   Northern Bombers  195   84
Leuenberger Matthew   WA    East Perth        203.2 92.9

Sellar James          SA    Glenelg           195   92
Brown Nathan          VIC   Nth Ballarat      194   89
McKenzie Eric         WA    Claremont         195.8 91

Riewoldt Jack         TAS   Clarence          193   84
Tippett Kurt          QLD   Southport         200.6 95.9
Hawkins Tom           VIC    Sandringham      197   95  
Mourish Caleb         WA    East Fremantle    194  
Renouf Brent          QLD   Southport         200.3 92.5 
Austin Mark           SA    Glenelg           194   83
Reid Ben              VIC   Murray            196.4 81
Allen Jarryd          VIC   Calder            192   85
Everitt Andrejs       VIC   Dandenong         193   76
Collier Tom           TAS   Lauderdale        192   86

Morton Jarryd         TAS   Claremont         190   80
Hampson Sean          QLD   Mt Gravatt        200.8 93.1
Todd Goldstein        VIC   Oakleigh          200+
Turner James          SA    South Adelaide    189.5 77.6 
Kennedy Joshua        VIC   Sandringham       191  
Garland Colin         TAS   North Hobart      193   84

Weeks Grant           VIC   Bendigo           189   86
Schofield Will        VIC   Geelong Falcons 
Grose Gavin           QLD   Mt Gravatt        193   85
Frawley James         VIC   Nth Ballarat      192   81
Brown Mitchell        VIC   Nth Ballarat      193   92
Jacobs Sam            SA    Woodville-WT      201   99
White Jesse           QLD   Southport         196.3 101.7
Westhoff Justin       SA    Central Districts  
Dawes Chris           VIC   Sandringham       194  101
Plummer Simon         QLD   Mt. Gravatt       192   82 
Currie Daniel         VIC   Northern Knights  200.4 90
Lee Alex              VIC   Dandenong         192   91.8
Tarrant Robert        VIC   Bendigo                 91.9
Hardy Justin          VIC   Nth Ballarat      195   95
Thomson James         WA    Claremont         193   80
Gourdis David         WA    Subiaco           191   88
Nugent Luke           WA    East Fremantle    197   90

 

[PHANTOMS_20]

surely sellar is first teer

 

[Pykie]

surely sellar is first teer

If you go on the champs, then he would struggle to make the 4th tier, illness or not.

M.Brown and Dawes were very impressive in the champs.




Major Queries here:

Hawkins - Definately first or early second tier. Better than Sellar at least.

Dawes - Definately very Early third teir. He has slipped off of the radar because of his knee. But was better than Jarryd Allen in the champs, and i rate him better than Riewoldt, definately alot higher than what you have him.

Caleb Mourish - Way too high, the hype is taking over, he had an absolutely deplorable screening result, and very few people have even seen him play. an AA KPP in Jarryd Allen is rated behind him which is very strange.

Mitchell Brown - Should be where Morton is imo.

 

[potholes]

lachlan button...has just reached the 200cm mark weighs in around 98kg. great tap ruckman, also with superb hands from glenelg, with reserves experience. good defence mind always running back to help out defence and is a more than handy target up forward and good on the lead. played u18's and did the state screening in SA. is definitely worth a look after dominating school footy at Sacred Heart for the past two yrs wer he was seriouslt not ever beaten.

 

[BlueBoy41]

I think Todd Goldstein (Oakleigh Chargers premiership ruckman) might surprise a few and go top 40.

 

[PHANTOMS_20]

lachlan button...has just reached the 200cm mark weighs in around 98kg. great tap ruckman, also with superb hands from glenelg, with reserves experience. good defence mind always running back to help out defence and is a more than handy target up forward and good on the lead. played u18's and did the state screening in SA. is definitely worth a look after dominating school footy at Sacred Heart for the past two yrs wer he was seriouslt not ever beaten.

If he didnt have the heart the size of a pea. ure right he mgiht be a gun. or if he didnt have a bum the size of the grand canyon and if he didnt have skinfolds that register off the scale.

 

[PHANTOMS_20]

If you go on the champs, then he would struggle to make the 4th tier, illness or not.

M.Brown and Dawes were very impressive in the champs.




Major Queries here:

Hawkins - Definately first or early second tier. Better than Sellar at least.

Dawes - Definately very Early third teir. He has slipped off of the radar because of his knee. But was better than Jarryd Allen in the champs, and i rate him better than Riewoldt, definately alot higher than what you have him.

Caleb Mourish - Way too high, the hype is taking over, he had an absolutely deplorable screening result, and very few people have even seen him play. an AA KPP in Jarryd Allen is rated behind him which is very strange.

Mitchell Brown - Should be where Morton is imo.

Shoe me another KPP who had over 20 possesions in two games. I am no defedning his performances becuase they were terrible but if that is as bad as it gets. I'd be stoked

 

[Lingsface]

Name State Club Ht Wt
Leuenberger Matthew WA East Perth 203.2 92.9
Gumbleton Scott WA Peel Thunder 197.1 92.8
Hansen Lachlan VIC Gippsland 196.7 91
Thorp Mitchell TAS Northern Bombers 195 84
McKenzie Eric WA Claremont 195.8 91
Sellar James SA Glenelg 195 92
Riewoldt Jack TAS Clarence 193 84
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Renouf Brent QLD Southport 200.3 92.5
Allen Jarryd VIC Calder 192 85
Tippett Kurt QLD Southport 200.6 95.9
Brown Nathan VIC Nth Ballarat 194 89
Brown Mitchell VIC Nth Ballarat 193 92
Reid Ben VIC Murray 196.4 81
Everitt Andrejs VIC Dandenong 193 76
Collier Tom TAS Lauderdale 192 86

 

[ablett factor]

anyone think tarrant will get picked up?

 

[SirRooke]

Hawkins tier 3!?!?! That just reeks of jealousy/envy whatever you want to call it. The kid is an absolute gun and smashed Gumbleton and all comers when he played on them.

He is clearly the best kpp in the draft and will barring injury will certainly prove it from as early as next year.

 

[Boy from the West]

Hawkins tier 3!?!?! That just reeks of jealousy/envy whatever you want to call it. The kid is an absolute gun and smashed Gumbleton and all comers when he played on them.

He is clearly the best kpp in the draft and will barring injury will certainly prove it from as early as next year.

I'm assuming Lingy has left Hawkins out because he has already been taken and it is no use putting him in to this list which is designed to assist posters when forecasting.

 

[PHANTOMS_20]

Hawkins tier 3!?!?! That just reeks of jealousy/envy whatever you want to call it. The kid is an absolute gun and smashed Gumbleton and all comers when he played on them.

He is clearly the best kpp in the draft and will barring injury will certainly prove it from as early as next year.

Smash Gumbelton and all comers.....? I doubt it very much mate.
1) The delivery he got in that carnival was second to none- the vic metro sde worked there forward line around him hence the theory that vic met are there to win the tournament rather then get blokes drafted which it fine.
2) Gumbleton and Hansen will most probably be better footballers in the ed becuase they will bulk up. Hawkins cant get any bigger he has relied on his size for his whole life coz he has always been bigger then his opponents, in the AFL he is not going to be bigger then his opponent- then waht will happen. Players like luenberger, gumbleton, sellar, thorpe, gibbs have all played against senior opponents with bigger bodies so they have had to learn other ways to find the footy- its not always as easy as sticking your bum into a bloke, watching him fall over, taking the mark and then kicking the goal.
No doubt Hawkins is a steal in the 3rd round however dont count your chickens before they hatch as they say- its guys like you who are putting all the pressure on Hawko and will make him crumble

 

[shuveradda]

I see hawkins as a definate first round pick if he wasn't a fater/son pick. But to rate him as high as gumbleton and hansen is abit of a stretch.

If he was in the national draft he would go from pick 3-7 is my guess. Hawkins doesn't look to have as much upside as the two mentioned before either. I'd have him ranked just before sellar. But everyone is downplaying sellar because of his illness/injury.

Sellar actually has very very good pace for a big guy, but tested poorly because of the extra bulk he has put on.

I can invisage sellar getting to an afl club and then toning up all his puppy fat. Him losing all the excess extra weight he does not need to carry and then becoming as fast if not faster than he used to be.

hawkins is a big unit but. david neitz style.. lets take him to play the irish hehe. Him and jonno brown in the forward line will give the irish major headaches

 

[Lingsface]

Hawkins tier 3!?!?! That just reeks of jealousy/envy whatever you want to call it. The kid is an absolute gun and smashed Gumbleton and all comers when he played on them.

He is clearly the best kpp in the draft and will barring injury will certainly prove it from as early as next year.

Yeah sorry didnt put him in because we all ready know where he is going i would rate him between leunberger and gumbelton.

 

[bomber boy]

lachlan button...has just reached the 200cm mark weighs in around 98kg. great tap ruckman, also with superb hands from glenelg, with reserves experience. good defence mind always running back to help out defence and is a more than handy target up forward and good on the lead. played u18's and did the state screening in SA. is definitely worth a look after dominating school footy at Sacred Heart for the past two yrs wer he was seriouslt not ever beaten.

Im pretty sure Hugh Minson beat him hands down in '05. It wouldnt be hard to beat the other ruckman in 06. St Peters had a yr 10 in ruck, PAC just had a guy who could jump and all the other schools had hacks rucking. He did nothing in the 18s champs despite being "200cm and 98kg"