Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[House_of_Dahl]

Have it on good authority that Harley is requesting a trade to the Dogs at the earliest opportunity.

No father son opportunities though judging by those shoes

 

[Fossie 32]

I think with his omission this week we can stamp the Lobb experiment a failure.

It follows other tall acquisitions of the Bevo era:

• Boyd (qualified success)
• Cloke (fail)
• Schache (fail)
• Trengove (fail)
• Bruce (some success)
• Keath (some success)
• Martin (fail)
• Jones (success)

Generally our efforts to recruit talls from elsewhere have been underwhelming. Ironically our home grown talls have worked.

Toyd was the greatest success of all

 

[Anja_Nees]

Toyd was the greatest success of all

Clearly made the most impact of the above because of the occasion he delivered.

No one would regret the trade for a second, and he’s a Dogs legend. Just a shame it was only for a while.

 

[LittleG]

So glad we kept our future first last year, no we see how low we are going to finish, it makes sense.

I am still disappointed we didn’t move Macrae on 2-3 years ago when he had some value in the market.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

So glad we kept our future first last year, no we see how low we are going to finish, it makes sense.

Who's gonna tell LittleG we didn't keep it...

 

[the conch]

The irony in all of this is the early years Bevo mantra of players needing to be able to play practically anywhere, in the event they need to be moved around mid-game due to injuries or needing a tactical change-up. We saw some rogue s**t for a few years.

These days we generally just see the same players in the same roles for a whole game. There is very little evidence of a secondary role for the vast majority of players.

If Naughton can’t get a sniff or is being controlled by someone like May (or Collins this weekend), put him on the ball for 5 minutes to break things up a bit. It’s gotta be better than Easton Wood the key forward which was apparently worth trying.

I used to think what was asked of Jordan Roughhead was kind of cruel. Matty Croft was the break glass full fwd
But yea I agree… more changes nid game needed.
But we have a very different backline group that need the time and experience playing together to gel.

 

[the conch]

I think a lot of us thought given their age a fourth year for both was probably optimistic anyway. They were fine.

It is stark just how many mature key position players we’ve recruited over the years. Often they’ve seemed surplus to requirements at the time too. Unfortunately Lobb is probably on track to be the worst.

I think Lobb isnt being utilised as well as he could be. His ruck work can be better than English.

 

[DogDays]

I think with his omission this week we can stamp the Lobb experiment a failure.

It follows other tall acquisitions of the Bevo era:

• Boyd (qualified success)
• Cloke (fail)
• Schache (fail)
• Trengove (fail)
• Bruce (some success)
• Keath (some success)
• Martin (fail)
• Jones (success)

Generally our efforts to recruit talls from elsewhere have been underwhelming. Ironically our home grown talls have worked.

With the exception of Boyd they didn’t really cost us much though.


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[Anja_Nees]

With the exception of Boyd they didn’t really cost us much though.


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A few second and third rounders and a fair bit of cap space though. You aren’t going to make every one a winner but some of them have been pretty limp.

 

[The Inbetweener]

Let Lobb know he’s on the list as a back up ruck only and we are happy to trade him for peanuts to get his money off our books.

 

[dergert]

Let Lobb know he’s on the list as a back up ruck only and we are happy to trade him for peanuts to get his money off our books.

Really hope we aren't tempted to bring him back after his strong game today in the VFL. Just keep playing Darcy.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Really hope we aren't tempted to bring him back after his strong game today in the VFL. Just keep playing Darcy.

Think Lobb might be waiting awhile for a return in the side

 

[Testekill]

Think Lobb might be waiting awhile for a return in the side

Which is a shame because Lobb was huge today as well. At this point though we need to focus on getting Darcy as experienced as possible, he's already extremely difficult to play against without having to scrag or chop the arms.

 

[DueWest]

Which is a shame because Lobb was huge today as well. At this point though we need to focus on getting Darcy as experienced as possible, he's already extremely difficult to play against without having to scrag or chop the arms.

Sweet was great in VFL last year as well. Lobb is back up only if English or Darcy are injured.

We need to play Darcy for remainder of year after todays effort where he was better than English

 

[SackofTaters]

Darcy's follow up work today was IMMENSE. Ever see a bloke that tall drop to the deck to win a hard ball like that recently ?

He just works harder than English.

 

[Anja_Nees]

Let Lobb know he’s on the list as a back up ruck only and we are happy to trade him for peanuts to get his money off our books.

If English gets injured I think we’ll be glad to have Lobb. Darcy couldn’t do it all right now and Lobb is better than nothing.

Still think it was the wrong call bringing him in though, especially given Darcy finished 2022 so well. My guess is our offer had already been made and we just carried through with it.

 

[The Inbetweener]

If English gets injured I think we’ll be glad to have Lobb. Darcy couldn’t do it all right now and Lobb is better than nothing.

Still think it was the wrong call bringing him in though, especially given Darcy finished 2022 so well. My guess is our offer had already been made and we just carried through with it.

Yeah if English goes down he’d certainly get the call up.

My biggest issue was the 4 year term. Maybe Darcy has come on quicker than anticipated.

 

[Anja_Nees]

Yeah if English goes down he’d certainly get the call up.

My biggest issue was the 4 year term. Maybe Darcy has come on quicker than anticipated.

He probably has, but he was a massive talent as a junior and was making inroads in his first year so it shouldn’t be that big a shock.

I respect Power’s ability to target players and get deals done but this one was always an odd one. Seemed pretty obvious he’d be obsolete quickly.

Then again, if English leaves and we can’t get a good replacement he’ll probably be useful next year.

 

[Golden_6]

Does anyone else find it a little bit odd that Bailey Smith

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185cm

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86kg

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9.8

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2.3

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T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

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10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

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3.2

4star

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14.8

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7.6

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2.0

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3.4

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4star

is so far away from the club? I get that he might need a little break during rehab if he’s doing it away from the club but he was the the F1 today instead of our game or even watching it on TV.

 

[Whoyagot]

Does anyone else find it a little bit odd that Bailey Smith is so far away from the club? I get that he might need a little break during rehab if he’s doing it away from the club but he was the the F1 today instead of our game or even watching it on TV.

I think it's good he's away from footy for a while

 

[Anja_Nees]

Does anyone else find it a little bit odd that Bailey Smith is so far away from the club? I get that he might need a little break during rehab if he’s doing it away from the club but he was the the F1 today instead of our game or even watching it on TV.

Personally I’m a bit over Smith generally.

Hope he’s doing what’s best for him but if he decided to seek a trade I’d move on very quickly.

 

[doggies ftw]

Does anyone else find it a little bit odd that Bailey Smith is so far away from the club? I get that he might need a little break during rehab if he’s doing it away from the club but he was the the F1 today instead of our game or even watching it on TV.

Yeah didn’t like that, all for him training away from the club if he needs but not supporting your teammates to go to the F1? Nah that didn’t sit well for mine

 

[doggies ftw]

Yeah if English goes down he’d certainly get the call up.

My biggest issue was the 4 year term. Maybe Darcy has come on quicker than anticipated.

Sounds like it’s only 3 years - I thought it was 4 too but all the articles say 2025 is his last year.

Basically as I said before round 1 it’s clear Darcy is better now - doesn’t mean Lobb won’t play again this year, he will. But Darcy is the better player, when fit, right now and he clearly has to play. Shocked we made the call this early but glad we did

 

[Anja_Nees]

Sounds like it’s only 3 years - I thought it was 4 too but all the articles say 2025 is his last year.

Basically as I said before round 1 it’s clear Darcy is better now - doesn’t mean Lobb won’t play again this year, he will. But Darcy is the better player, when fit, right now and he clearly has to play. Shocked we made the call this early but glad we did

Being fair, in addition to Darcy coming on quickly we probably also thought Lobb would play better.

He’s played plenty of good games and looked like someone that could contribute forward and give good support to English but he hasn’t really done either.

 

[adogsfan5]

Let’s be honest, we ain’t seeing Lobb in the seniors again unless English or Darcy are injured.
I like Lobby, but honestly, he may as well go to a Geelong or Hawthorn next year.